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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

Reminder that role revealing is absolutely forbidden.

Is softing cool or just no hinting at all? Also thanks for the vote update!


And yeah sorry I meant doctor. Used to a bit different terms than y'all like calling it cop instead of seer.


Nyght is also my top town read.

Reminder that role revealing is absolutely forbidden.

Is softing cool or just no hinting at all? Also thanks for the vote update!


And yeah sorry I meant doctor. Used to a bit different terms than y'all like calling it cop instead of seer.


Nyght is also my top town read.

If it is a very, very soft claim, then sure. But what I'm going for here is that people need to try and come up with clear, rational arguments for who they find sus or or inno.

Oh yeah @Vroendal, what was the link between Michi and BSR?

I just woke up to three new pages, so page-by-page I'll go!

But before I do that...

The Walls have spoken! Hapi's noble sacrifice has spared another a most gruesome fate!

May Hapi watch over us from the Walls Beyond, where she now resides in a world without Ignorance!

No one died? Well that settles it. Doc, TGN, and ENE are our wolves

In all seriousness, we may wanna push on the people who voted for Hapi. @NyghtOwl (who is town as far as I'm concerned), @Melehan, @Doc, and @cozmikrae.

I find it very interesting how you've excluded yourself from that list, especially considering you're trying to sus the rest of us. Looks like a scum play to me.

Who knows , Melehan might randomly come across a wolf , place a FoS , which i think will make him a target inevitably

I wouldn't call it random. Pushing hard for a joke lynch D1 with no info is pretty sus.

Also, I see you've been busy reading the guide threads. You're doing great!

No one died? Well that settles it. Doc, TGN, and ENE are our wolves

In all seriousness, we may wanna push on the people who voted for Hapi. @NyghtOwl (who is town as far as I'm concerned), @Melehan, @Doc, and @cozmikrae.

OmG I Can'T BEliEve ThAt yOu wOuLd vOtE Me
(jk lol)
but that's a good idea

On the one hand, Minish being used to different terminology flies.

But on the other hand, it could have been a slip.

Then on the other other hand, Doc as Doctor would be hilarious.

Normally I'd be all "the defenders have two potential clears now + the formation of the Seer Squad", but I can't help but be suspicious of how confident Minish was about the wolves NOT pulling an NKN1, which, considering I suspect a powerwolf in play, is a real possibility.

Let the paranoia begin...

No one died? Well that settles it. Doc, TGN, and ENE are our wolves

In all seriousness, we may wanna push on the people who voted for Hapi. @NyghtOwl (who is town as far as I'm concerned), @Melehan, @Doc, and @cozmikrae.

OmG I Can'T BEliEve ThAt yOu wOuLd vOtE Me
(jk lol)
but that's a good idea

As I pointed out D1, I think we also need to look at the Michi wagon. Michi had a strong lead for most of D1, and unless there was a bus plot in play (possible), Michi is unlikely to be a Wolf.

If it was a bus play, Vro's vote switching becomes a lot more suspicious, as does anyone willing to use that as a way to clear Vro.

Regardless, there's at least one Wolf in the Michi pile regardless of a bus or no bus scenario.

Neutral
ENE: Posted a copypasta about why everyone should vote D1 then hasn't voted or even posted beyond that. He did turn out to be town last game while being quiet, though, so that might just be his style.

I turned out to be wolf, actually.

Nah, not a slip. I believe I called the seer cop d1. You can ask Ruguo, we always call them doc on ZD. Which funny enough, we have our own separate Doc there as well so it can get pretty funny.


Also not confident about scum no killing but I think it makes less sense. Unless only the godfather type titan can submit the kill, in which case it would make more sense. But I see Laur letting any mafia at least put in the night action kill.

Minish's town read idea and why it is not a good one

Also it's interesting that there was no kill. I don't think all 4 scum would be inactive enough to no submit a kill. But it also seems pretty lucky for Doc to get a heal.


I'm thinking maybe everyone should just post their top town read? If doc did stop a kill last night that would clear someone, but I don't want them to out themselves so at least if we all did this and doc died we could possibly know their results.

I also don't think there would be no N1 kill, I see this as a very bad idea that NOBODY should partake in at least until Minish finishes explaining herself.

Why would this help at all? If you are asking everyone to site their top town read and expecting the defender type to state who they protected the only thing it does is literally reveal the defender type to the wolves. Are you counting on multiple people saying the same target? That's a pretty risky assumption to make, not worth the risk at all from how I see it. In what way is this a good idea?

This counts as an irreversible sus, Minish, I find myself unable to explain why you think that's a good idea from any town perspective.

Link between a scum Michi and BSR

Oh yeah @Vroendal, what was the link between Michi and BSR?

I said there was a link between BSR and specifically scum Michi because BSR has done exactly 3 things this game: Ask to confirm the roles/abilities we had, liked Red Mones' response, and liked Michi's first post.

Man, it's always weird just to see a vote or two in the first day when there's no rule requiring it day one...but I think this beats all.

Ya'll are crazy.

Yes, I was sussing a scum link for a like on a post, sue me. It is interesting just by virtue of being the only thing he's engaged with, to which you might ask why BSR would out himself like that. However, it is notable that he also voted someone early on as a town role in the LOTR game whereas now he has been silent and unengaged. Scum adopting similar tactics is by means an impossibility, and the open support of Michi's opinion despite his clear hypocrisy is telling in my opinion. BSR was also quiet and asked questions about roles last game so no AI actions there, it's the only place where I can a true read on BSR.

(I apologize at the time earlier this game when I said BSR hadn't posted, my eyes went right over his initial post on the first page.)

@Vroendal

The docs wouldn't (and can't even out themselves). If the kill was stopped by a doc it is very very likely it's not some random player who didn't post and it's someone who already looks townie. So yes I would expect a lot of overlap with people's top town reads. Usually we do this just by people making reads lists since they're so normal on zd but y'all don't seem to do those much here. So the idea is that (I'm going to use a hypothetical scenario here), if I were doc and targeted Nyght and then I said Nyght is my top town read, then if I die you all can know who I targeted that night and not just be in the dark with no info from me.

The one backfire is that scum could possibly find out who doc is because they would know who the kill failed on. But like I said, I doubt it was a random person so likely someone multiple people are reading as town.

If y'all don't want to do it this way it's fine. But for goodness sake please do some ordered lists at some point and docs can do the same and blend it in that way.

Basically I don't want a no kill to lead to nothing because that's really good info n1. I want us to at least have a good idea of who the doc protected if they flip.

Howdy y'all. Sorry for the late arrival. Been trying to help my better half with his taxes.

Anywho, from what I can gather it looks like we have a few suspicious people. That last minute vote switch on Vro is weird to me. As far my own vote, I was just trying to keep things from getting to hard to follow. I didn't want to have to factor in someone with a reputation for doing things completely off the wall and make my life more difficult.

That being said, a lack of a kill from the wolves is disconcerting. But I'm not sure what to make of it.

I'm still wary of any of the lurkers.

ENE is major sus because people from New England are a bunch of assholes

I can certainly see a good reason to hear from those of us that lynched Hapi. Particularly I'd like to hear how Doc and Coz feel. As their interactions seemed a bit confrontational.