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Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

The one thing keeping Red off my scumspects list is the fact that Red and cozmik are apparently IRL friends, and that this is cozmik's first game here. Red being super defensive of cozmik thus makes sense because I'm sure Red wants cozmik's first game with us to be fun.

This tbh. While I don't think cozmik is likely to be the sort to bail after if they got lynched day 1 - I have faith in the Standard Of Friend Red brings around these parts - I don't know that there's too much harm in giving a day 1 'we don't know each other and we might have a wildly different playstyle from what we're used to' moment to give time to get used to it.
Perhaps best exemplified by how cozmik seemed surprised we wanted to know their strat; like, duh we want to know at least, like, 80% of your strategy, scum wins when townies plays their cards too close to their chests. It'd be one thing if there were neutral roles in this - in which case, yeah, alright, fair play - but there aren't.
Ah well. Not really a major issue though since there was never enough of a pile to be really worth worrying about getting lynched over anyway.

Who knows getting lynched D1 might make her love Werewolf here more but decide the game is better played by memeing and sowing general chaos and discontent for the lulz because you get murdered if you actually try to play the game around here :hapisip:

Anyways weather new or not weather a friend or not this is first and foremost a game and we should play it without taking any of that into consideration if someone decides not to continue playing cause the game was played and they died even D1 in their first game they shouldn't be playing. Like this is Werewolf and any suspicious activity will be noted.

What’s sus about me exactly? My Red Mones vote? That’s been retracted. How come you don’t jump on the other wagon, when that may actually help you? Why start a new one that no one else is getting on? 

Vote: Adorable Oracle Hapi

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

This is the longest most well reasoned actual post you'll ever get from me in a Werewolf game. Let's see how that goes over.

Lean Town
Wintermoot: Reads very similar to how he played last game when he was town.
Nyght: Seems to genuinely try to get the hang of this as a new player out in the open rather than talking to fellow wolves in private chat were he scum, so I'm town-reading him.
Kane: Seems to be genuinely helpful and trying to find scum.
Wischland: Appears to be acting the same as last game (which involved jumping on bandwagons) when she was town. Would like to hear more from her.
Dawcreek: Has yet to post. This lines up with last game (when he was town) where he ended up backing out of the game because it was overwhelming. I expect the same to happen again, unfortunately.
Minish: Making some really good points on people and sussing them out/asking people for meta.
Vroendal: Going a little hard on Michi considering the meta evidence (metevidence?) isn't as strong as he believes it is, but he is going hard on people like last game when he was town. I don't see the links between players he's talking about, though.

Neutral
Alexander Valentine: Has not posted, but has been online. Again, a new person, so understandable if he's overwhelmed.
Doc: Has made some reasonable points on suspicions. Looking a little more town than last game when he was scum.
cozmik: People are unfortunately fixated on her joke vote on Red (I know how that goes all too well). Don't like the whole "playing my strategy close to the chest" bit, which in general is not good for town, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt right now since she's new here, and hounding on the new players is no fun.
Melehan: At first went hard on the RP chaos aspect (I assume she's taking a page from Hapi's playstyle after she read last game), which makes me lean scum, but then later she seemed to be really digging and coming to some of the same conclusions I am on people.
Hapi: I find her accusations against cozmik to be weak, but other than that there's not much to go on besides the memes. Hard to read Hapi.
Ruguo: Has spoken quite a bit but has been pretty shallow in their suspects, but I find their recent analysis prompted by Vro to be reasonable.
Red Mones: I don't buy the accusation that he's knowingly protecting cozmik because he's scum -- I'd do the same thing in his place. He has been playing very defensively, though, and I don't like how he doesn't have a vote in right now.
TGN: I don't think anyone can comprehend his actions. He seems to be on a level higher than everyone else, and his chaotic tendencies rival Hapi's.
Ogun: Has only made one post showing worry about the amount of posts to catch up on. Hope he ends up reading through it all and making a vote like he did last game as town. If not, he'll move to the scum section for me.
ENE: Posted a copypasta about why everyone should vote D1 then hasn't voted or even posted beyond that. He did turn out to be town last game while being quiet, though, so that might just be his style.

Lean Scum
Michi: Honestly, I'm surprised my vote turned into a wagon, but I'm sure as hell not gonna change my vote in case he turns out to be scum (someone's gotta die anyway). But his reactions to the wagon are kinda rubbing me the wrong way, luckily. Although his non-vote appears to be NAI in his case, he seems to really want everyone to be more quiet and less aggressive, which is usually better for the wolves.
BSR: Made a post asking about roles, and that's it. Tried to look helpful before falling back into the shadows? He's been online...
Sapphiron: Voted based on "RNG", and then stated we shouldn't take D1 discussion as very important, but that's it. Everything's important this early on, so don't know why he'd downplay it already (understandable later on, though).

Hapi, I'll get to you at a later time.

That was a very thorough analysis Gerrick, thank you for that. The only thing I see that I would like to change is that I also don't think my push on Michi for meta was particularly strong, it just was the only real lead I had gotten so far. It was only after pressing him for more that I truly believed he was scum, as his responses, though thorough in some regards, have been suspicious to me on their own and the joint combination is not a good look for his prospects of being townie.

I would also like to hear more from @Wischland at some point.

That is a very good point about Red not having a vote in, will you make a decision soon Red?

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

So you're voting for me for chaotic reasons? You didn't quite answer that question. Actually, if you noticed, I did not vote for you because of Melehan's insistence. I deliberately chose to jump on a different wagon, siding with you actually (both in voting for Red, who you also voted for, and in refusing to sacrifice you to the walls). Personally, I love a game with some chaos, that's not the deciding factor here. This is almost purely retribution. I also believe having a vote, even if potentially wrong, is better than having no vote. 

I'm also not voting for Michi because I'm not so convinced by all the meta reasoning, and I would need to get a better feel for everyone's play style before I can just hop on "past game behavior" bandwagons. Seems to me though, you voting for Michi might keep you in the game a little longer. Voting for me doesn't seem to be what's actually best for Hapi. But I guess since you said you like to die...

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

So you're voting for me for chaotic reasons? You didn't quite answer that question. Actually, if you noticed, I did not vote for you because of Melehan's insistence. I deliberately chose to jump on a different wagon, siding with you actually (both in voting for Red, who you also voted for, and in refusing to sacrifice you to the walls). Personally, I love a game with some chaos, that's not the deciding factor here. This is almost purely retribution. I also believe having a vote, even if potentially wrong, is better than having no vote. 

I'm also not voting for Michi because I'm not so convinced by all the meta reasoning, and I would need to get a better feel for everyone's play style before I can just hop on "past game behavior" bandwagons. Seems to me though, you voting for Michi might keep you in the game a little longer. Voting for me doesn't seem to be what's actually best for Hapi. But I guess since you said you like to die...

Best for Hapi doesn't always mean keeping myself alive. Best for Hapi means two things

First and most important ability to use the tools I have at my disposal for fun.

Second to that winning the game.

I voted for Red fur chaos. I voted for you because you hopped on that so fast and with so little reasoning. Now your new here but your not new to the game by your own admission so *shrugs* not like your in danger nobody is ever gonna view for the new person here until they have had every opportunity to murder most of town just ask TGN how easy it is to get away with that.

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

So you're voting for me for chaotic reasons? You didn't quite answer that question. Actually, if you noticed, I did not vote for you because of Melehan's insistence. I deliberately chose to jump on a different wagon, siding with you actually (both in voting for Red, who you also voted for, and in refusing to sacrifice you to the walls). Personally, I love a game with some chaos, that's not the deciding factor here. This is almost purely retribution. I also believe having a vote, even if potentially wrong, is better than having no vote. 

I'm also not voting for Michi because I'm not so convinced by all the meta reasoning, and I would need to get a better feel for everyone's play style before I can just hop on "past game behavior" bandwagons. Seems to me though, you voting for Michi might keep you in the game a little longer. Voting for me doesn't seem to be what's actually best for Hapi. But I guess since you said you like to die...

Best for Hapi doesn't always mean keeping myself alive. Best for Hapi means two things

First and most important ability to use the tools I have at my disposal for fun.

Second to that winning the game.

I voted for Red fur chaos. I voted for you because you hopped on that so fast and with so little reasoning. Now your new here but your not new to the game by your own admission so *shrugs* not like your in danger nobody is ever gonna view for the new person here until they have had every opportunity to murder most of town just ask TGN how easy it is to get away with that.

Lol, I kinda want to read this TGN game now. But don't worry, I'm not going to be murdering anyone.

OH yeah
last game Doc kept me alive because he kept saying I was new.
If I had listened I would have won, he said to say unfair to make you think I was young, but I wouldn't do that, so with me messing up and you meddling kids getting involved, I lost the last werewolf game, but I got really far with the I'm new excuse.

idk if you can see this but read The Wintreath Monthly and Upvote it pls, I worked really hard on it UwU

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

So you're voting for me for chaotic reasons? You didn't quite answer that question. Actually, if you noticed, I did not vote for you because of Melehan's insistence. I deliberately chose to jump on a different wagon, siding with you actually (both in voting for Red, who you also voted for, and in refusing to sacrifice you to the walls). Personally, I love a game with some chaos, that's not the deciding factor here. This is almost purely retribution. I also believe having a vote, even if potentially wrong, is better than having no vote. 

I'm also not voting for Michi because I'm not so convinced by all the meta reasoning, and I would need to get a better feel for everyone's play style before I can just hop on "past game behavior" bandwagons. Seems to me though, you voting for Michi might keep you in the game a little longer. Voting for me doesn't seem to be what's actually best for Hapi. But I guess since you said you like to die...

Best for Hapi doesn't always mean keeping myself alive. Best for Hapi means two things

First and most important ability to use the tools I have at my disposal for fun.

Second to that winning the game.

I voted for Red fur chaos. I voted for you because you hopped on that so fast and with so little reasoning. Now your new here but your not new to the game by your own admission so *shrugs* not like your in danger nobody is ever gonna view for the new person here until they have had every opportunity to murder most of town just ask TGN how easy it is to get away with that.

Lol, I kinda want to read this TGN game now. But don't worry, I'm not going to be murdering anyone.

don't worry, I have the link
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6948.0

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

So you're voting for me for chaotic reasons? You didn't quite answer that question. Actually, if you noticed, I did not vote for you because of Melehan's insistence. I deliberately chose to jump on a different wagon, siding with you actually (both in voting for Red, who you also voted for, and in refusing to sacrifice you to the walls). Personally, I love a game with some chaos, that's not the deciding factor here. This is almost purely retribution. I also believe having a vote, even if potentially wrong, is better than having no vote. 

I'm also not voting for Michi because I'm not so convinced by all the meta reasoning, and I would need to get a better feel for everyone's play style before I can just hop on "past game behavior" bandwagons. Seems to me though, you voting for Michi might keep you in the game a little longer. Voting for me doesn't seem to be what's actually best for Hapi. But I guess since you said you like to die...

Best for Hapi doesn't always mean keeping myself alive. Best for Hapi means two things

First and most important ability to use the tools I have at my disposal for fun.

Second to that winning the game.

I voted for Red fur chaos. I voted for you because you hopped on that so fast and with so little reasoning. Now your new here but your not new to the game by your own admission so *shrugs* not like your in danger nobody is ever gonna view for the new person here until they have had every opportunity to murder most of town just ask TGN how easy it is to get away with that.

Lol, I kinda want to read this TGN game now. But don't worry, I'm not going to be murdering anyone.

don't worry, I have the link
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6948.0

Ooof.... 80 pages.

The one thing keeping Red off my scumspects list is the fact that Red and cozmik are apparently IRL friends, and that this is cozmik's first game here. Red being super defensive of cozmik thus makes sense because I'm sure Red wants cozmik's first game with us to be fun.

This tbh. While I don't think cozmik is likely to be the sort to bail after if they got lynched day 1 - I have faith in the Standard Of Friend Red brings around these parts - I don't know that there's too much harm in giving a day 1 'we don't know each other and we might have a wildly different playstyle from what we're used to' moment to give time to get used to it.
Perhaps best exemplified by how cozmik seemed surprised we wanted to know their strat; like, duh we want to know at least, like, 80% of your strategy, scum wins when townies plays their cards too close to their chests. It'd be one thing if there were neutral roles in this - in which case, yeah, alright, fair play - but there aren't.
Ah well. Not really a major issue though since there was never enough of a pile to be really worth worrying about getting lynched over anyway.

Who knows getting lynched D1 might make her love Werewolf here more but decide the game is better played by memeing and sowing general chaos and discontent for the lulz because you get murdered if you actually try to play the game around here :hapisip:

Anyways weather new or not weather a friend or not this is first and foremost a game and we should play it without taking any of that into consideration if someone decides not to continue playing cause the game was played and they died even D1 in their first game they shouldn't be playing. Like this is Werewolf and any suspicious activity will be noted.

What’s sus about me exactly? My Red Mones vote? That’s been retracted. How come you don’t jump on the other wagon, when that may actually help you? Why start a new one that no one else is getting on? 

Vote: Adorable Oracle Hapi

Hi my names Hapi, I kinda have a reputation around here and your new so here's the bullet points list.

• I'm a target D1 here for eternity because people don't like how I play the game
• I do what Iwant with wanton disregard for anyone else or the situation at hand
• I'd argue that if you look around at the games I've played and pay close attention to my posts I'm often right about things I just don't follow the normal werewolf route to get there

So basically the wagon on me exists solely and exclusively because Melahan is memeing and certain people like Doc will just always vote me D1 under the pretense that I'm a danger to town because of my chaotic nature and general do what's best for Hapi no matter what mantra.

Someone asked why I have this reputation. I think it's caused by two things.  I voted for the host in Portal WW which started a whole mess of things (I stand by my feelings on that)

And in LotR wolf I was willing to do extremely insane things in an attempt to get usefulness out of my activated ring ability.

But I also made points. That everyone seems to forget. On the 14th before the dominoes began to fall I called out Willie as scum pointed out my feelings that TGN was scum and pointed out concerns on why Doc's style was concerning and I thought he might be scum.

I also was the only one firmly not on the Michi is scum wagon which I was correct about.

The only thing I pushed and stayed on that I was wrong about was my thoughts that Wisch was scum.

So my question is do you really want to vote for me based on a meme and some vague notion of how I don't help town as town? Putting myself first doesn't mean not helping town I have two goals in Werewolf. 1. Win. 2. Cause chaos, but I do this for a reason and...it works. My survival very rarely matters to me. (Actually I like dying early) 

As for why I don't vote for the wagon. I don't think there's a valid reason to vote for Michi. I don't like this wagon and I think that it's basis is ridiculous. Michi might be scum by I don't see no lynching D1 as a "tell"

Wait, I'm kinda confused. If you're pro Hapi then wouldn't you care about being lynched day 1? I'm just not seeing a connect between being pro Hapi(doing what's best for you) and being willing and even enjoying dying early. That's kinda contradictory. Or really contradictory actually.
Like, if you're happy to die early because it helps us that's one thing and I could see that but it doesn't really jive with the claim that you play with a "me first" mind set. Or is that just to cause more confusion and chaos?

On a side note, apparently no one noticed me meme in any of the past games I've played here, even though I've memed D1 (and often beyond) in every themed game I've played so far.

I am apparently Queen of the Stealth Meme...

That is a very good point about Red not having a vote in, will you make a decision soon Red?

Eh, I'm not really on board with any of the wagons right now, and with all the attention on me, I didn't really want to rock the boat either by jumping on a wagon to starting a new one. Either one might fuck me over. I may end up jumping on the Michi wagon though, but we'll see. I still have some time.

I really want hear from @Sapphiron for sure. They've been active on discord recently, so I can't imagine they're totally unaware of what's going in this game right now.

Or actually Ruguo might be an option.

@Laurentus, can we have an updated vote count please?