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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

cozmikrae - Basically hopped onto the first wagon he saw with the flimsiest of causes and has been completely quiet since, aside from a thoroughly unconvincing rebuttal to my pointing out the lack of suspicion towards me.

Ruguo - Seems mighty eager to ascribe scummy intent to what are likely the actions of inexperienced players. Very carefully distancing themself from those plays. Also is defending me despite how I've been coating myself in the slime which desecrates the Walls.

Wait so you're gonna fault Ruguo for saying inexperienced players are scum yet you're doing exactly the same with cozmikrae? (Sidenote: She) I'm actually with you on Ruguo. They accused Ogun of being potential sum, yet we co-hosted 23 and this is exactly how Ogun acted then (as town) imo, so I'm wondering why Ruguo brought it up at all. But you're also being wildly inconsistent here, Mel.

Not quite. I'm suspecting cozmik not for being inexperienced, but because of her reaction to my casting suspicion on her. Her reaction was very lukewarm, and she hasn't posted anything else since. Ogun otoh went "idk what's going on here, could someone summarize" which is much more in line with an inexperienced player being overwhelmed by the number of posts.

Cozmik thus reads to me more as "a player we aren't familiar with lying low to pass as inexperienced" than someone actually inexperienced.

So, the walls are slimy you say? What makes a wall slimy?

Do you truly wish to know?

So, the walls are slimy you say? What makes a wall slimy?

Do you truly wish to know?

Yes, enlighten me oh wise one.

So, the walls are slimy you say? What makes a wall slimy?

Do you truly wish to know?

Yes, enlighten me oh wise one.

Public restrooms are unavailable within the Walls.

In the meantime, I have listened intently to the Whispers of the Walls, and while the Whispers are hardly definitive, I Believe in Their Validity! The Walls would never steer us wrong!

The Likeliest of Blasphemers (Scummiest of Scumspects)

cozmikrae - Basically hopped onto the first wagon he saw with the flimsiest of causes and has been completely quiet since, aside from a thoroughly unconvincing rebuttal to my pointing out the lack of suspicion towards me.

Ruguo - Seems mighty eager to ascribe scummy intent to what are likely the actions of inexperienced players. Very carefully distancing themself from those plays. Also is defending me despite how I've been coating myself in the slime which desecrates the Walls.

TNG - I'm not sure what's going on with the voting there, but it is suspicious. Especially since I know he's smarter than he might initially appear...

Hapi - Shockingly quiet. Where is our regularly scheduled chaos? Plus, THE PROPHECY!

The Faithful (Towniest of Townies)

Vro, Minish, Red, Nyte, and Kane.

I've said my piece. I won't keep talking unless there's something to say. She for the record, I'm a woman.

Interesting tactic here, you seem to want me to accuse you? Why are you pointing out how suspicious you're being? Are you protecting Red Mones? Are you drawing attention away from something/someone else?

cozmikrae - Basically hopped onto the first wagon he saw with the flimsiest of causes and has been completely quiet since, aside from a thoroughly unconvincing rebuttal to my pointing out the lack of suspicion towards me.

Ruguo - Seems mighty eager to ascribe scummy intent to what are likely the actions of inexperienced players. Very carefully distancing themself from those plays. Also is defending me despite how I've been coating myself in the slime which desecrates the Walls.

Wait so you're gonna fault Ruguo for saying inexperienced players are scum yet you're doing exactly the same with cozmikrae? (Sidenote: She) I'm actually with you on Ruguo. They accused Ogun of being potential sum, yet we co-hosted 23 and this is exactly how Ogun acted then (as town) imo, so I'm wondering why Ruguo brought it up at all. But you're also being wildly inconsistent here, Mel.

Not quite. I'm suspecting cozmik not for being inexperienced, but because of her reaction to my casting suspicion on her. Her reaction was very lukewarm, and she hasn't posted anything else since. Ogun otoh went "idk what's going on here, could someone summarize" which is much more in line with an inexperienced player being overwhelmed by the number of posts.

Cozmik thus reads to me more as "a player we aren't familiar with lying low to pass as inexperienced" than someone actually inexperienced.

So you feel I should have been more indignant in my reaction? lol ok. I'm not lying low, I was online all day yesterday because it was a Sunday. About 2-3 mores pages happened overnight, while I was asleep, and now I'm posting while I'm at work, in between phone calls.

So, the walls are slimy you say? What makes a wall slimy?

Do you truly wish to know?

Yes, enlighten me oh wise one.

Public restrooms are unavailable within the Walls.

Ummmm....that's quite the design flaw to overlook. Who's in charge of construction. I want to speak to the manager. Also, and this is just a little nitpicky...it's Nyght.

cozmikrae - Basically hopped onto the first wagon he saw with the flimsiest of causes and has been completely quiet since, aside from a thoroughly unconvincing rebuttal to my pointing out the lack of suspicion towards me.

Ruguo - Seems mighty eager to ascribe scummy intent to what are likely the actions of inexperienced players. Very carefully distancing themself from those plays. Also is defending me despite how I've been coating myself in the slime which desecrates the Walls.

Wait so you're gonna fault Ruguo for saying inexperienced players are scum yet you're doing exactly the same with cozmikrae? (Sidenote: She) I'm actually with you on Ruguo. They accused Ogun of being potential sum, yet we co-hosted 23 and this is exactly how Ogun acted then (as town) imo, so I'm wondering why Ruguo brought it up at all. But you're also being wildly inconsistent here, Mel.

Not quite. I'm suspecting cozmik not for being inexperienced, but because of her reaction to my casting suspicion on her. Her reaction was very lukewarm, and she hasn't posted anything else since. Ogun otoh went "idk what's going on here, could someone summarize" which is much more in line with an inexperienced player being overwhelmed by the number of posts.

Cozmik thus reads to me more as "a player we aren't familiar with lying low to pass as inexperienced" than someone actually inexperienced.

So you feel I should have been more indignant in my reaction? lol ok. I'm not lying low, I was online all day yesterday because it was a Sunday. About 2-3 mores pages happened overnight, while I was asleep, and now I'm posting while I'm at work, in between phone calls.

Ew. Timezones.

I may have to reconsider some of those Whispers...

So, the walls are slimy you say? What makes a wall slimy?

Do you truly wish to know?

Yes, enlighten me oh wise one.

Public restrooms are unavailable within the Walls.

Ummmm....that's quite the design flaw to overlook. Who's in charge of construction. I want to speak to the manager. Also, and this is just a little nitpicky...it's Nyght.

>.> I'm going to blame that on auto-correct because I went back to find a post of yours to make sure I spelled it correctly, but looks like this keyboard still remembers a Nyte I knew years ago...

Cozmik thus reads to me more as "a player we aren't familiar with lying low to pass as inexperienced" than someone actually inexperienced.

I can personally vouch for cozmikrae being inexperienced as I invited them to Wintreath.

Interesting tactic here, you seem to want me to accuse you? Why are you pointing out how suspicious you're being? Are you protecting Red Mones? Are you drawing attention away from something/someone else?

I don't understand what you're getting at here. I don't see any of this in Mel's post at all.

Well, many hours have elapsed and not a great amount has happened.
As a reminder, currently the order of votes have gone like:
Red Mones - Hapi (For a joking comment)
Hapi - RM (In retaliation)
Hapi - Melehan (Given reason to fulfill the prophecy)
RM - cozmikrae (For the same joking comment as Hapi)
Wintermoot - NyghtOwl (Saw the more senior members as likelier to be scum)
Doc - Silv (Given reason as Doc's scum curse)
Vroendal - Sapphrion (Given reason as RNG)
Michi - Gerrick (Michi's opinion is wrong and he's a bad person)
Sapph - TGN (Given reason "for all the reasons you guys voted each other")
Mel - RM (Paranoia from Mel's references, immediately unvoted)

The wagons are rather spread out atm with a majority on Hapi and RM with 2 votes. The most convincing reason up here right now to me is actually the vote on Michi oddly enough XD, in the past games he's been among the first to vote, this change in tactics requires more explanation. I'm aware this will make the majority split three ways, still a good amount of time left.

Vote - Michi

Uh...

Games where I voted Day 1 for someone other than myself:
WWXIII When Laurentus voted for me.  I was a neutral role.
Portal Attempt 1 When I was a Jailer, and considered a Green/Curiosity Core
Portal Attempt 2 When I was a turret.
WWIX When I was the Protector

Games where I didn't vote D1 or voted for myself to avoid an inactivity lynch:
WWXIX Didn't vote.  Was a neutral role.
WWXVI Voted self to avoid an inactivity lynch since voting was required each phase. Was one of the Vampires.
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3513.15 Voted self to avoid an inactivity lynch since voting of some form was required each phase.  I was one of the Jedi Protectors
WWIV Voted for the shrubbery because why not? I was a Villager/Peasant aka Horse Master for that game.

Other games not listed were either ones I didn't participate in (Game of Thrones, Werewolf 40,0000, Those of No Reflection 2, This Little Thing of Ours) or ones I hosted myself (1-3, 5&6, 10/10-2, 12 &13, 15, 17&18, 21).

So no, there's nothing to suggest that it's common except in 2 (technically 3 since 1 was a two attempter) recent games, and in fact it's much more shaky when it comes to how I do D1 as a role and depending on the rule.

Lol Michi just pulled out the history of Wintreath to defend himself.

That Star Wars Game

Dunno why that link got all wonkered up.

Uh...

Games where I voted Day 1 for someone other than myself:
WWXIII When Laurentus voted for me.  I was a neutral role.
Portal Attempt 1 When I was a Jailer, and considered a Green/Curiosity Core
Portal Attempt 2 When I was a turret.
WWIX When I was the Protector

Games where I didn't vote D1 or voted for myself to avoid an inactivity lynch:
WWXIX Didn't vote.  Was a neutral role.
WWXVI Voted self to avoid an inactivity lynch since voting was required each phase. Was one of the Vampires.
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=3513.15 Voted self to avoid an inactivity lynch since voting of some form was required each phase.  I was one of the Jedi Protectors
WWIV Voted for the shrubbery because why not? I was a Villager/Peasant aka Horse Master for that game.

Other games not listed were either ones I didn't participate in (Game of Thrones, Werewolf 40,0000, Those of No Reflection 2, This Little Thing of Ours) or ones I hosted myself (1-3, 5&6, 10/10-2, 12 &13, 15, 17&18, 21).

So no, there's nothing to suggest that it's common except in 2 (technically 3 since 1 was a two attempter) recent games, and in fact it's much more shaky when it comes to how I do D1 as a role and depending on the rule.

I truly greatly appreciate the effort you've put into collecting your information, thank you for that. ^ ^ However, I'm reticent to accept any testimony as relevant to this game if it happened more than a year ago, which I think should be understandable. The strongest arguments should be made with your latest games and I don't put any real stock in games from 2015-2016 particularly since you've played other games and gained new experiences since then.

I do concede that there may be different variables for a given game such as your role, but your most recent games have shown a trend that appears to be Alignment Indicitive that I haven't yet seen in this one, which makes it certainly worth investigating.

If you had to vote right here, who would you vote for and why?

Unvote

Vote: cozmik


I think it's obvious why but here we go. Jumped on a joke, stayed on the wagon hasn't really given me a defense that gives me reason to believe otherwise.

Yes I get timezones lack of posts is not really a problem...yet.


You want chaos, I sadly have nothing to provide...yet but I will leave you with this nugget.

I think this is a classic case of a newbie getting lynched because their every misstep is taken as suspicious.