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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

There wasn’t a tie between Hapi and I since I moved my vote off of her. Now there’s a tie between Michi and I. So it’s still tied two ways, not three.

I can’t really confirm. Last game he started a joke wagon almost immediately, but I honestly can’t remember if he does that consistently or not.

Can anyone confirm Vro's claim that Michi is usually one of the first to vote? That's not a bad catch if true.

I've been looking myself just to confirm that I'm right, last game (LOTR) as an unaligned acting independently he voted Lau in retaliation as the second vote of the day. The game before that (Portal 2) he voted much later in the day as scum. The game before that (Portal 1) as town he wasn't the very first to vote, but voted much more quickly in terms of how many votes has previously been cast (5 stuck votes had been cast as compared to this game's 8, doesn't sound like much difference but in terms of the way that thread had gone and the great number of players in that game it was still early) The game before that he was a host and the games before that have been too long ago.

Michi does weird stuff, but he hasn't spoken against voting early in clear opposition before, despite doing it himself.

I’ll add this from portal 2 though:

Which if you were you look at past games (even the past attempt) aside from XIV which started in the night phase, I don't really do Day 1 weigh ins.  I'll usually keep my posts brief if I even post at all that phase because there's normally not anything to go on.  Hell, even the first attempt I didn't really weigh in despite it being basically 10 pages of content for Day 1.

It’s probably important to mention he was a wolf this game.

I am getting the sense that we might need to lynch Michi based on meta.

That was a really good catch, Vro, and something I would have never picked up on. I don't think we're in any danger of a hammer at all with this many players, so let's go for a little more pressure.

Unvote
Vote: Michi

Care to explain yourself?

Hmm I did go back and check a few games myself. The only town one I saw of the bunch was the Portal 1.0 version. And he did vote relatively early on d1 for pressure. That is a bit of a different stance from here, but having a one game sample size is hard to tell from. Definitely something to keep in mind though as it does seem to align a little more with his scum meta.

Vro gets a bit of town points for pointing that out though. I feel like that was more genuine reason for sussing someone.

Unvote Michi
just cuz

Jesus christ I can never survive werewolf games, already 6 pages!

Lets be cautious shall we, I don't think it would be good to accidentally kill an innocent townie, like me of course 

I'd also like an explanation why we all want to kill Michi, before of course I jump on the bandwagon...?

Jesus christ I can never survive werewolf games, already 6 pages!

Lets be cautious shall we, I don't think it would be good to accidentally kill an innocent townie, like me of course 

I'd also like an explanation why we all want to kill Michi, before of course I jump on the bandwagon...?

ngl I have no idea
I think everyone was like "heh vote michi lol"

See, what doesn't make sense to me is how you're voting for Red because of a joke not-claim, yet I'm over here, jokingly trying to get a unanimous lynch on Hapi and somehow not even registering as "most suspicious" to you.

Congratulations! You're now topping my list of Most Suspicious.

There's nothing sus about a Day 1 Hapi lynch, though, esp. coming from someone who's gone over the meta with a fine-toothed comb like you have recently (as best demonstrated by a mysterious like of one of my posts from WW XXI, indicating that you've been digging).
While I have absolutely nothing against Hapi as a person, Hapi as a player is a chaotic nightmare storm of chaff, which is almost invariably bad news for town.
If I thought anyone could convince her to change her playstyle, I'd push for that instead, but frankly imo it's a lost cause and the only reason I haven't voted Hapi yet is guilt, because even though I have nothing against her personally it could definitely look like I have some sort of axe to grind.
Guilt: my one weakness.

Vote: Doc

Sorry bud, but last game proved your curse was back.

Uh, rude, no, just because my 'statistically significant chance of being a werewolf' curse reared its ugly head last game does not justify bringing back the 'inevitably dies day 1' curse.

Man, it's always weird just to see a vote or two in the first day when there's no rule requiring it day one...but I think this beats all.

Ya'll are crazy.

D1 no lynch is just kicking the can down the road for nothing. If the game was intended to be played that way, we should just start the game at N1 and let the power roles run wild for a minute. D1 exists because provocation and reaction-testing is important, not just for vanilla town to get a sense of what's what, but for the power roles to get an idea of who's worth scanning/defending.

I'm confused Doc cause in Portal you were decidedly inno..

And I said "hello my fellow turr...cores"

And you jumped on me. But now it's an obvious joke not worth a vote? 

please see above for my reasoning, and also please stop with the guilt

So I was going to go back through old games to check out what you mean about Hapi being a chaotic mess of a player but I'm at work and it's super busy. Anyway I could get some sparknotes on this homework assignment?

Apologies if I seem needy. Still trying to get a hold on the general flow.

Good catch Vro! The way Vro argues strikes me as quite similar to my previous game with them and seeing as they've contributed the most substantial thing to the game thus far, I'm inclined to think they're town. I'd like to see how Michi responds before voting, but the discrepancy in voting times between games certainly makes Michi my top priority right now.

I'd also like an explanation why we all want to kill Michi, before of course I jump on the bandwagon...?

Basically, in past games town Michi tended to be one of the earliest voters on D1. Scum Michi pushed against D1 voting or took longer to vote. Since Michi has not voted, instead saying this: https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7019.msg155825#msg155825 he is acting more like he has when he was scum in the past.

Unvote Michi
just cuz

Can we get more than that? Unvoting Michi right after Vro made a decent point about Michi possibly being scum without reasoning is very strange.

Apologies if I seem needy. Still trying to get a hold on the general flow.

This game is literally for our newer players, so don’t apologize! Feel free to use that help thread too.

Will do! Thank you heads up.

Is it too late to change my vote? I feel like I'm voting for a third party candidate going with Moot. And looking at the chaos Hapi makes, well, I don't know if that's gonna be a good thing for us in the long run. So, can I Vote Hapi?