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The ending in case you forgot

"Town (Technically) Wins!

Were there different endings? Oh yes. Yes indeed. Am I planning to lead this storyline into something bigger? Maaaaaaybe."

Games like these tend to heavily focus on lore in portal the host would assuredly fuck with you.

In lotr why wouldn't there be a ringwraith turn for an obviously underpowered sauron team?

I'm not saying there wouldn't be, but that would only be fair and make sense when one of the Wolves die, and someone randomly gets taken from Town and put into scum.

And you're conflating narrative with gameplay. Silv can mess around with the story as much as she wants, but the fact remains that players' actions were what people were drawing into question, and they never had a reason to.

Calm down Lau, I know it's frustrating to have that many people under the Null category, having no progress beyond a consistent expansion of a seemingly increasingly questionable Town Core, and a sudden refocus on hidden mechanics would appear to be further unnecessary distraction from the main objective of finding the Wolves.

My plan for the day? I really want to see one of the people categorised as Null lynched just to acquire further information. And I shall be going for Vote: Ogun

Okay, I've had my moment.

Why Ogun, though?

The ending in case you forgot

"Town (Technically) Wins!

Were there different endings? Oh yes. Yes indeed. Am I planning to lead this storyline into something bigger? Maaaaaaybe."

Games like these tend to heavily focus on lore in portal the host would assuredly fuck with you.

In lotr why wouldn't there be a ringwraith turn for an obviously underpowered sauron team?

I'm not saying there wouldn't be, but that would only be fair and make sense when one of the Wolves die, and someone randomly gets taken from Town and put into scum.

And you're conflating narrative with gameplay. Silv can mess around with the story as much as she wants, but the fact remains that players' actions were what people were drawing into question, and they never had a reason to.

There was actually very much a reason to though. Silv spent the whole game leaving a trail of breadcrumbs that nobody followed. And was clearly intended as a target based on flavor and my d1 joke vote showing up in the vote count.

Anyways whatever we can continue to assume Daws is town but I will not lock him if he's not cleared

Sorry not sorry. This is exactly what I would do as a host.

That seems an excellent plan except for the ogun part Sapph. Why would lynching ogun give you more information than Flying or me? Ogun's a little low on my lynch list right now because he's said a bit without saying a bit, surely a lower priority?

unvote

Vote:ogunbiyi6422

Why not I think they're wolf anyways and nobody wants to follow Wisch so

I mean, to be clear, Ogun makes far more sense than someone like Willie, but what is your reason?

Vote: Vroendal

Again, at this point, Vro just needs to die. The tone seems genuine, but the actions taken so far paint a different story, and I consider it the best worst-case scenario if Vro gets lynched, anyway, as not targeting anyone in the night phases is either a lie, or a sign that we wouldn't be losing an insanely valuable ability if he flips Town. Also, I legitimately don't see how lynching any one player provides more info to the remaining ones than lynching any other player.

Vote: Vroendal

Again, at this point, Vro just needs to die. The tone seems genuine, but the actions taken so far paint a different story, and I consider it the best worst-case scenario if Vro gets lynched, anyway, as not targeting anyone in the night phases is either a lie, or a sign that we wouldn't be losing an insanely valuable ability if he flips Town. Also, I legitimately don't see how lynching any one player provides more info to the remaining ones than lynching any other player.

What if I have a one-shot ability I'm dutifully saving?

Ogun did not participate in D1 discussions, jumped in D2 to avoid inactivity lynch by joining a confirmed Michi lynch and there is something about the following quote that is part confusing, part amusing and part suspicious in his explanation to vote against Michi within a convoluted expository defence of Vro and TGN

Did you read my most previous post, I think I clarified everything as I went through over 20 pages of text, this is my second time playing but I think you should read my post above, if that isn't town lean, I don't know what to tell you

Furthermore, in his latest post defending himself, there is a weird inclusion to defend TGN even though there isn't really a wagon against him right now. And a lack of voting does not indicate a lack of desire to join bandwagon, it's a contorted link.

Being more willing to accuse someone and then proceed to have your arguments destroyed often makes you more sus. That is probably one of the factors to why TGN is being seen as scum, and the point that he is pretending to be an inexperienced and careless player is interesting to say the least. I think that is also one of my mistakes from not voting in round 1, though I could argue it shows that I try to avoid jumping the bandwagon.

And no, getting rid of a major player like Lau is not necessarily to the advantage of the Wolves. Our constant confusion over the lack of deaths and consequently lack of signs have led to admittedly unproductive discussions, besides finding out and killing off an unaligned. Killing off Lau, the perceived Town Leader, would secure his following as Town Core and that voting bloc can start voting off the rest.

But since I'm being accused, lets think like scum.  I am sure this may backfire but why not. If I was scum, I think the best thing scum would do would be to take out one of the major players that have been confirmed to be town, which would be Lau, and maybe someone like Hapi or Gerrick?

It's getting rather close to EoD, I should probably vote now.
Vote: Michi

Many of the players I town-read are voting Michi, so I trust their judgement on top of my own. As Wisch pointed out, there are also a bunch of mechanical reasons.

Also - I'm running out of time and I prefer to stay alive 

Who are the players you're Town reading?

My town reads who voted Michi:

- Laurentus: Laurentus seems to have an aggressive playstyle, more aggressive than I would expect from a wolf. People who have played with them have also said that the style seems normal for their town-meta. AFAIK he has also been mechanically cleared by BSR.
- Wischland: I've only played with Wischland as town, but the way that she is currently acting and her post style pretty much sums up what I'd expect from her.
- Doc: Doc seems to come with good, logical arguments every now and then. They seem like town lean to me.
- Sapphiron: Sapphiron has cleared Hapi and Wintermoot, if I understand correctly? I can't really see a wolf clearing two people mechanically, especially if they are the same team.
- Wintermoot: Wintermoot is here solely because they are cleared and haven't done anything overly suspicious to make me think differently of them.

It's a bit hard to make reads on a bunch of people you don't know, so I could very well be wrong, but this is what made sense to me.

The 4 scum may be -
Wille-Harlia
Flying
Human
ENE

I find this scum team a bit... weird. It seems highly unlikely to me. What are the odds that the scum are all XKI'ers?
I have to admit, XKI Werewolf is slower and the reason why we're this inactive is partially because it's hard to follow 55 pages of posts, but also because we never really post as much. As Wisch pointed out, I myself only post around twice per day phase. The reason I didn't post day 1 was because I was rather confused and overwhelmed to say the least (I'm not that practiced at forum WW). I wasn't used to the Random Voting Stage either and I didn't want to wagon (which I ended up doing day 2 instead, because we only have one no-lynch throughout the game  ).
Back to the point, I will not dismiss this scum list, but realistically it's only 1 or 2 of those players as wolf. I know why Vro and many others are mainly scum reading XKI'ers, since our regular, "inactive" playstyle very much borders the inactive scum meta of Wintreath.

Hmm. Let's see how I can test this.

@Vroendal, do you have one of the 3, the 7 or the 9?

The 4 scum may be -
Wille-Harlia
Flying
Human
ENE

I find this scum team a bit... weird. It seems highly unlikely to me. What are the odds that the scum are all XKI'ers?
I have to admit, XKI Werewolf is slower and the reason why we're this inactive is partially because it's hard to follow 55 pages of posts, but also because we never really post as much. As Wisch pointed out, I myself only post around twice per day phase. The reason I didn't post day 1 was because I was rather confused and overwhelmed to say the least (I'm not that practiced at forum WW). I wasn't used to the Random Voting Stage either and I didn't want to wagon (which I ended up doing day 2 instead, because we only have one no-lynch throughout the game  ).
Back to the point, I will not dismiss this scum list, but realistically it's only 1 or 2 of those players as wolf. I know why Vro and many others are mainly scum reading XKI'ers, since our regular, "inactive" playstyle very much borders the inactive scum meta of Wintreath.

This is a pretty fair judgment to make. But I also don't see why it should be dismissed when at this point it could only probably be a few players, the chances really aren't that far of a long shot. Realistically anyway, it's at least 1 or 2, but we've got to start somewhere. I say 2 seems very probable based on how the game has gone. Ty for posting, I understand it's been overwhelming and I admit my part in causing that.

That said, who do you think it is?

Hmm. Let's see how I can test this.

@Vroendal, do you have one of the 3, the 7 or the 9?

Why do you think that only those options exist in this game?

Because I have one of the 3.