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Werewolf XXIII: A Lord of the Rings Adventure
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Laurentus
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  • You guys need to sort out Minish's alignment damn fast in the coming day phase. If she's Town, the Wolves lose. If she's scum, we're all dead.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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  • Well. We do have unaligned players. Care to reevaluate your read @Sapphiron?
    Well that sorts out part of the theory we had in mind. I am still fairly confident of my town read of Hapi though, Gollum may be self-corrupted but Sméagol has always been undeniably a kind soul.
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  • Wonder how many of those people who jumped on the Michi wagon at the end are wolves? Gut's telling me at least Flying Eagles from the fact that they jumped on at the end of Vroendal's wagon when he already had a clear majority and then switched over to Michi's when they saw the tide turn, having given weak reasoning both times.

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    @Wintermoot, could you easily program in a feature that lets people see how many posts each person participating in the game has made?
    Just remembered an easy way to do this, which should be useful to everyone:
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    That'll let you see how many posts someone's made as well as easily isolate and skip through what they've said.

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    Vroendal
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  • Well. We do have unaligned players. Care to reevaluate your read @Sapphiron?
    Well that sorts out part of the theory we had in mind. I am still fairly confident of my town read of Hapi though, Gollum may be self-corrupted but Sméagol has always been undeniably a kind soul.
    You know Sapph, I think we should really reconsider assuming that Hapi is Smeagol. I'm a little surprised at myself for assuming it in the first place, I suppose my mind was too busy trying not to get lynched. :p
    First of all, having both Smeagol and Gollum as two separate players seems a little redundant when there are so many eligible characters. Secondly, read back on everything Hapi has posted since the end of D1, I think there are several very telling things in what she's said that do not point to Smeagol. Thirdly, she has been seeming to clear Michi from something unrelated to whatever her "precious" is, I think that the Gollum quote and gif felt more like a chaotical joking red herring.

    That being said, I am growing more convinced of her towniness. I need more time to figure stuff out though, I've been unable to focus on everyone at once.
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  • @BraveSirRobin, I have faithfully kept you as my Lock-town, but you're going to make both yourself and me look suspicious if you don't come and do some things, nephew.

    Well boy oh boy I missed quite a lot.  I was a bit distracted by the real world, as regrettable as that is.  But much appreciated.  Care to fill me in on what we're up against at this point?  Also if we have more than 20 minutes I can probably make my own decisions but 20+ new pages is a lot to come back to  :))
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    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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  • Also everyone, based on game mechanics, I can lock-confirm Lau is good.  Not sure if that helps people generally, but good to know either way. 
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    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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  • Okay let the record reflect that I am now up to date.  Also sorry for triple posting.  Daws, you've got Lau's trust, so you're 100% good by me.  Other than that things are confusing as hell but I *think* I agree with Lau's Gerrick call, he does seem town. 

    That being said, I would like @Wintermoot 's Gerrick reasoning which was omitted.  Additionally, I am skeptical about ENE, and Flying Eagles.  Though ENE could just be a victim of inactivity and circumstance, so I'll refrain from anything there for now. 
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    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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    Sorry Michi I tried everything I know that you were a good kind soul. Enjoy the ever after.

    Well. We do have unaligned players. Care to reevaluate your read @Sapphiron?
    Well that sorts out part of the theory we had in mind. I am still fairly confident of my town read of Hapi though, Gollum may be self-corrupted but Sméagol has always been undeniably a kind soul.

    Still not connected to Michi I just wanted him alive cause he wasn't ebil and we are wasting days.
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  • Wait so if Hapi says he knew who Gollum was, and wasn't evil and wanted to not waste days, that just makes me confused.  Because either Hapi is (A) Frodo or something who is "with Gollum" , etc.  OR he's a Nazgul/Sauron/etc who knows who Gollum is and is covering his tracks.  Alternatively, (big stretch but thinking out loud here) Hapi is Smeagol, and they have some sort of tag-team win condition like get the ring? 
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    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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    Sapphiron
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  • It’s not a big stretch, we have been discussing your third option for the past 10 pages :P Hapi denies, hinting at Aragorn instead. But that was one of the 3 contentions driving the day phase.
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  • That being said, I would like @Wintermoot 's Gerrick reasoning which was omitted.
    Omitted may be the wrong choice of word, I simply commented on the players who were most relevant at the time I posted...the three players the round largely revolved around and the remaining player in danger of being voted off. While I noticed there was a wagon on Gerrick at some point in the round, it had disappeared by the time I was able to post.

    That being said, it seems like the most suspicious thing about Gerrick is the fact that he brought Dawsinian into the tie in the first round...in a way, he's been blamed for the reasoning, while Vro has been blamed for pushing him out of the tie. It's possible that one of them is a wolf, but I doubt both are...why would they team up on the first round to specifically push Daws into being lynched? It would have been safer for them to continue the Laurentus/Michi tied bandwagon, or to cast 'vanity wagons' as they seem to be called.

    In the second day, Gerrick voted for Vro early on...he wasn't the only person to do so, but it is a bit ironic that he casting suspicion on Vro for agreeing with him. If I had to pick Gerrick and Vro, I'd say that Gerrick's vote is more in line with what I expected from a wolf in the first round: line up villagers for RNG to kill off in order to avoid the kind of scrutiny that comes with being the person that pushes a villager into getting lynched. However, I also suspected Sapphiron and Daws of that as well in the first round, and obviously in Daws's case I was wrong. Laurentus also seemed to strongly believe he's a villager at the beginning of the round, and it's an opinion that seems to have carried a lot of weight, but he doesn't seem so sure toward the end (when he says there's a 1/3 chances that Gerrick is innocent).

    Interestingly enough, Gerrick was proven to be correct when he said that Michi was probably an unaligned role when most people believed he was a wolf-aligned Gollum to Hapi's town-aligned Smeagol...an idea that Laurentus dismissed as speculation. Wolf or not, being proven right has to count for something. :P

    I guess when it comes to it, I don't believe both Gerrick and Vro are both wolves, but it's possible that one of them are and it's also possible that neither of them are. it's hard to get anything more definite when we're talking about events that spawned from a vote on the first day when there was little to even speculate about.


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  • Wonder how many of those people who jumped on the Michi wagon at the end are wolves? Gut's telling me at least Flying Eagles from the fact that they jumped on at the end of Vroendal's wagon when he already had a clear majority and then switched over to Michi's when they saw the tide turn, having given weak reasoning both times.

    Also,
    @Wintermoot, could you easily program in a feature that lets people see how many posts each person participating in the game has made?
    Just remembered an easy way to do this, which should be useful to everyone:
    1. Click the More dropdown menu, which is located at the top of the thread next to the Reply and Bookmarks buttons.
    2. Click Print.
    3. Use your browser's find function (typically control+f).
    4. Type in "post by: [player's username]".
    That'll let you see how many posts someone's made as well as easily isolate and skip through what they've said.
    Wow, okay, yeah, that's so simple, why has no one thought of it before now.

    @Red Mones, could you kindly bookmark this post?
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
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  • So we killed an unaligned which doesn't help us... cool.  ::)
    Here's the problem with lying and misleading: no one knows what the hell to make of you, now. Don't do it again.
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