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Werewolf XXII: Of Cores and... Turrets? (Take 2)
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  • Kane, it’s not really convincing to say you simply “forgot” to scan N1, and you got roleblocked afterwards as a natural extension of your night reveal. Furthermore, this late into the game, I don’t even understand why your self preservation is more important. If you believe Pengu is the defender, his role has more purpose than a “role-blocked” investigator with 0 useful scan results. 
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  • You don't "want to" lynch Pengu, his claim seems genuine to you, and yet you lynch him anyway?

    If you believe his claim (which I don't) then he's already successfully defended someone, whereas we have a supposed role blocker who makes your scans worthless. Sounds like you'd objectively be wanting to keep Pengu alive.
    What I meant with "I would rather not do this" is that I would rather not jump on a wagon just to save myself.  I am saying that I think his role claim is a plausible role but I also am saying that I am believing and agreeing with you in thinking that he is scum.  Especially seeing how the claim that Red Mones seems to have been fairly similar in that it was unusual enough that I am now starting to see why you did not believe him.  Pengu's claim while genuine as a possibility is seeming far less likely to be the actual role as I think about it while typing this post.

    I can't really prove that my scans are worthless because of the rules against posting screenshots from PMs (not attacking you here Ruguo).  That is why I have not been posting much about my scans though (that and fear that I will be killed the next night that I post scan results).  I can say though that the scan results have showed up in this format: "Your scan results ???".  It is looking like you don't believe me though so I accept that I will probably be lynched anyway and a Wintrean Werewolf trend that has been avoided in a few recent games will come back.  Oh well.

    Now to address interrupting posts.
    For the record, @Imaginative Kane, who was your scan last night?

    @Pengu, why didn't you defend Tau?
    I scanned Batma n last night.  The scan was worthless.

    Kane, it’s not really convincing to say you simply “forgot” to scan N1, and you got roleblocked afterwards as a natural extension of your night reveal.
    I am not just saying I forgot to scan N1 to defend myself, I actually did forget to scan on that night phase which can be summarized by my being lazy after finally finishing the school finals I had to deal with which were due May 15 which contributed to my brain fart of thinking the night phase lasted more than 24 hours.
    I do not actually know if I have been role blocked, that is just my guess as to why my scans are not giving any useful results. (although I think I would have been notified if I was role blocked)  I have no idea what is happening there.
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  • For the record, @Imaginative Kane, who was your scan last night?

    @Pengu, why didn't you defend Tau?

    Because I assumed Tau would have already been protected by another defender role, which obviously I was wrong on that one since Tau himself was that role.

    Whereas I figured Sapph could be a target since he's been pretty vocal.  For some reason I didn't consider Gerrick since he's been pretty under the radar.
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  • And since I'm now here, Update!

    Laurentus: 8
    Gerrick: 0
    Red Mones: 4
    Batma n: 2
    Vroendal: 8
    Doc: 5
    Imaginative Kane: 0
    Excalibur: 1
    Pengu: 6
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    Arenado: 1
    Taulover: 1

    Total: 42/42
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    As a side note, yes I have been very quiet (I wouldn't say all that much quieter than usual overall since I never have been that chatty in Werewolf) but keep in mind that when the posting to gain the Game Core's favor was happening, I ended up with a score of 0.  Yes I only made two posts during that time but they obviously were not solely meant for spreading chaos or gaining the favor of the host core.  Vroendal we know had 8 points rather quickly and Laurentus has already been defending themself for their score of 8.

    I wonder if a side effect that wasn't made public of the favor points was messing with the scans of investigative roles...

    Just something else to consider.
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  • I don't seem to have many other options for convincing you all that I am a core.  I suppose I should make the big reveal of what I am.  Maybe you all will be able to make better use of it than I was.

    To quote from my PM:
    You are a CORE
    Your Role is Seer
    Your effects are Disc Inserted, Orange Hyperspeed Gel, Transport

    Your effects manifest as such:
    Disc Effect: Extra vote while active
    Orange Effect: Choose one person to receive one night of one of the following abilities: Jailor, Bus driver, or Medium
    Transport Effect: Can be transported

    I forgot to act on the first night phase as I already said.  Night 2, I scanned Gerrick and the scan result was this emoticon:  ???.  Night 3, I scanned Batma n and the scan result was the same as the Gerrick scan.  I also have contact with a player who has not been active at all.

    Well at least my death will show you all that I was not a turret even if this post is not believed.
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  • unvote: Kane Lives

    vote: Pengu

    Reason: Similarities in my and Imaginative Kane's PMs that could not possibly be fabricated.
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  • Additionally, I will press the button with the hope of getting us to the Orange gel effect.

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  • I'm pretty much convinced that Kane is Town now. If Pengu doesn't pan out, look at Barnes and Doc.
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  • Hell, even if Pengu pans out, my suspicion is that we have a damn good final Wolf on our hands. Good luck, Town.
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  • unvote: Kane Lives

    vote: Pengu

    Reason: Similarities in my and Imaginative Kane's PMs that could not possibly be fabricated.

    Well, here's mine

    You are a CORE known as the Gassy Core
    Your role is a modified combination of the Poisoner and Lightning Rod.
    Your effects are Cake, Blue Bouncy Gel, and Grav Effect

    Your effects manifest as such:
    Cake: Because cake makes people gassy, your poison will definitely strike with every successful redirect.
    Blue Bouncy Gel: Risk poisoning your target as well as the turret.
    Grav Effect: Disarmament squad: Work to disable the grav beam by the end of the phase it was first enabled.

    Night 1 I chose to protect Red Mones because I figured the top players (Lau and Tau) were either Turrets or defended since unless they're the former...they're usually known to be day 1 kills and thus the first to defend.  In all honesty, I didn't even consider Hydra...which I'll admit I'm not sure why I didn't consider him a night 1 possibility since he's also a pretty strong player.

    Night 2, I chose Laurentus because of how vocal he was being during the night, and if he was protected the first night then he would have been vulnerable the next night unless there were was another defender and they were alternating.  But I didn't want to take the chance that there wasn't since he was setting himself up pretty bad.

    Night 3, I chose Sapph because they've been becoming a force to be reckoned with for the turrets, and again it was a tossup between either Tau or Sapphiron on this one.  But like the previous nights, I was worried about another defensive player possibly alternating between Tau and someone else, so I chose to protect Sapph.

    But since my effect will definitely poison someone since Cake is in effect, I'm hoping that I'll actually successfully protect someone again so that we'll definitely get a scum poisoned.
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  • unvote: Kane Lives

    vote: Pengu

    Reason: Similarities in my and Imaginative Kane's PMs that could not possibly be fabricated.

    Well, here's mine

    You are a CORE known as the Gassy Core
    Your role is a modified combination of the Poisoner and Lightning Rod.
    Your effects are Cake, Blue Bouncy Gel, and Grav Effect

    Your effects manifest as such:
    Cake: Because cake makes people gassy, your poison will definitely strike with every successful redirect.
    Blue Bouncy Gel: Risk poisoning your target as well as the turret.
    Grav Effect: Disarmament squad: Work to disable the grav beam by the end of the phase it was first enabled.

    Night 1 I chose to protect Red Mones because I figured the top players (Lau and Tau) were either Turrets or defended since unless they're the former...they're usually known to be day 1 kills and thus the first to defend.  In all honesty, I didn't even consider Hydra...which I'll admit I'm not sure why I didn't consider him a night 1 possibility since he's also a pretty strong player.

    Night 2, I chose Laurentus because of how vocal he was being during the night, and if he was protected the first night then he would have been vulnerable the next night unless there were was another defender and they were alternating.  But I didn't want to take the chance that there wasn't since he was setting himself up pretty bad.

    Night 3, I chose Sapph because they've been becoming a force to be reckoned with for the turrets, and again it was a tossup between either Tau or Sapphiron on this one.  But like the previous nights, I was worried about another defensive player possibly alternating between Tau and someone else, so I chose to protect Sapph.

    But since my effect will definitely poison someone since Cake is in effect, I'm hoping that I'll actually successfully protect someone again so that we'll definitely get a scum poisoned.

    This is hilarious, but here's the thing: There are multiple things that are just plain off about your supposed quote. For one, Ruguo never ends thier sentences with periods. For another, there is never anything after the word CORE.
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  • There's also no "and" between the things listed, like "cake, blue bouncy gel, cake effect"
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  • Fine.  Fuck it, you got me, I'm a Turret.

    This is why I hate games that players can use their role revealing PMs in any way whatsoever, because it makes it a sure fire win for the town when players can just stockpile their PMs and a player can point out a fake one because of fucking grammatical errors.

    So yeah.  I'm a turret.

    Vote: Lynch Pengu

    This is why I don't allow any role revealing in my games, especially to the extent of sharing the contents of our PMs.
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  • Haha, come on, Pengu, don't be like that. It was quite interesting to get to use forensics to try and analyse this. If you had paid attention to the structure of Kane's claim, you could have used it. You were going to get lynched anyway. I doubt that Kane was going to get lynched over you today.

    For another, I straight up lied about the periods thing, hoping to see who followed suit, haha.
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  • I'm also reasonably certain that turrets wouldn't have the "and" between the commas either.
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