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Mate, you just said that you did kill Hydra. There is nothing random about it. And if it was within Hydra's power to give final words before his death, then that's not an action by the host, either, so there's literally no sense comparing it to a misread clue from the earlier game. Pick a story and stick with it.

And yeah, I got you and Kane (and potentially Doc) confused in my head. I amended that later.

Also, it's weird that the only kill would have come from this. It's unlikely that anyone was going to be defended, since we killed a doctor during the last day phase. Which makes this claim even more suspicious by Red.

Also, it's weird that the only kill would have come from this. It's unlikely that anyone was going to be defended, since we killed a doctor during the last day phase. Which makes this claim even more suspicious by Red.

It does affect whether it's the wolves that targetted him last night, your 25% chance of accidentally killing your target (the fact that Hapi the doctor died does not deny the possibility of a defender successfully protecting the real target of the wolves), both (assuming you are innocent) or both (in that you are a wolf role cop).

Raised this up a while back, Red Mones reaffirmed that he did visit Hydra. To justify his confidence that it was not a pure coincidence he simply happened to visit at the same time as Wolves attacking Hydra, I can only assume Ruguo informed him of the activation of his 25% possibility of killing target. However, as you say, this does not explain why the Wolves fail to kill one of the Townies last night phase. It could be that there is another defender besides Hapi, or a defender-esque effect activated by the button mechanics.

On a related note, I am not sure why you would accuse me of a "push to portray everything as randomised and chaotic", I am merely restating the criteria in which points are given by the Game Cube and you do happen to have the most points. On that note, my posts have been afforded with 0 points by Ruguo, which means no attempt at chaos or misinformation.

Notwithstanding, I am also the one who directly asked Red Mones if he did visit Hydra, so that we can move beyond the discussion of whether Hydra's last will implicating Red Mones was a randomised effect. If I truly wanted to befuddle the town, it would be way more beneficial to continue the discussion of "hmm, maybe Red Mones didn't visit Hydra ... oh no that means there are no leads"

One of the main reasons why I am not treating this as a conventional game is after Hapi voted for Ruguo jokingly and ended up being acknowledged as a legitimate vote instead of a self vote.

Are you folks still talking about getting rid of me? That's not very nice. You do realize it would take all of you, cores and turrets alike to get out of that room, much less to me, right? Right? Or are you all stupider than I thought?

Here, the Game Cube is suggesting that "cores and turrets" alike somehow have to collaborate and unanimously vote against Ruguo in order to "get out of that room" - which raises the possibility that one of the victory conditions is as such. Of course it could just be flavour, but Ruguo's game mechanics for the Portal theme so far have been completely unpredictable.

When everyone is ready to vote for Ruguo, I will do so as well. For the time being, I will Vote: Lynch Laurentus for the reasons I have stated a while earlier.

Sounds like if we kill the turret-aligned game cube in power currently, we might be able to switch it with the core-aligned game cube that has been strikethrough consistently.

This is absolute nonsense, @Sapphiron. This is something that can only open with the consent of both the town and scum. If the game core is indeed an adversary, then it has to be unaligned. Otherwise, what possible reason would scum have to ever assent to this. Given how unlikely it is to get any sort of consensus in this game, this pure attempt to get us to waste an entire day has just convinced me that whatever side you're on, it ain't town.

What possible reason would scum ever assent to it? The fact that if there's a united front (i.e. supermajority) to vote against this turret-aligned or non-aligned game cube for a town-aligned game cube, there will be sufficient peer pressure with unwillingness to vote for Ruguo as a potential scumread. In the meantime, we can continue to hunt for scum. Pretty sure there's no harm in establishing a long term goal we can work towards, whilst still trying to do vote and post analysis to hunt for turrets. In fact, your utter hostility and dualistic perspective is throwing me off.

You keep talking about how the host is making things unpredictable and yet you expect a clear and simple solution like the game core approval or unwillingness to vote for the game core to act as such easy scum giveaways. It's perplexing.

I am sure everyone can acknowledge that Ruguo's gameplay mechanics have been undeniably unpredictable, without a role list, without fixed abilities, and the randomness of button mechanics. Even with the previous game, we have not really properly grasped how they come together. Also, I don't appreciate how you are twisting my caution and recognition of the game core approval mechanics as shady acceptance of "easy scum giveaways".

Yet, you single-mindedly orchestrated a bandwagon against Red Mones immediately after Hydra left a last will stating Red Mones visited him last night. You instantly assumed Red Mones was a turret who killed Hydra, which made not much sense since it's a team-based night kill for the turrets and it doesn't make sense at all for the Game Cube to only and specifically announce Red Mones rather than anyone else in the turret team if that's the case.

Interesting point: "It likes chaos, false information, and teamwork."

I feel like I have not been particularly big on team work or false information. Maybe it just likes the fact that I have zero regard for what others are thinking, which is also fairly chaotic. Or perhaps it uses a type of negative marking, in conjunction with adding points for things it likes, in which case it really likes that I'm not pointlessly blaming others, claiming, or being particularly orderly.

You yourself acknowledged the criteria in which the Game Cube gave you points and gave enough attention to give a post about it. Yet by some form of double standards, you are annoyed at others discussing about Game Cube mechanics.

Voting for the Game Cube is a long term goal, and I don't expect everyone to agree with this theory at this point in time. I just felt a need to surface this theory, I have never urged everyone to start voting for the Game Cube with immediate effect - neither have I done so last I checked. In fact, I even agreed that we should be hunting for turrets with regard to short term objectives.

Wait, are you telling me tha that this whole thing is because of a misunderstanding?

The turrets can designate someone they want to perform a kill, so it would make sense for that person to be Red. The fact that you don't know this is, astonishingly, making me wonder whether I'm finally seeing a derp clear.

If you can fake this, you are honestly the best damn player in history.

Huh, since when do wolves get to designate one of their own to perform the kill? Every game I played (in and out of Wintreath), when I am a Wolf, it has always been a group effort, and there's no specific mechanic to designate.

It's happened every now and then. It was a thing last game, too. We usually designated Kane as our killer.

Oh ... I mean this mechanic you just cleared up does partly justify your knee-jerk reaction and it's not fully unreasonable to assume there are no more defenders besides Hapi

A count! Another count!

Laurentus: 5
Gerrick: 0
Red Mones: 1
Batma n: 2
Vroendal: 2
Doc: 2
Imaginative Kane: 0
Excalibur: 1
Pengu: 5
Barnes: 1
Sapphiron: 3
Arenado: 1

Total: 23/42

Votes:

Push the Button: 6(Sapphiron, Arenado, Kane, Doc, Pengu, Vroendal)/8

Red Mones: 1 (Laurentus)
Kane: 1 (Vroendal)
Laurentus: 1 (Sapphiron)
Ruguo: 3 (Kane, Doc, Gerrick)
The cube crept ever closer, but would not be able to find the clever core

Shut up already! When I find you, I'm going to make sure the machines can't put you back together again!

The cube was irate from the core's little act of defiance

I know I'm getting close!

But was it really the cube that was getting close, or the core? Would the core have the support waiting for him?

Ha! They already have my favour! Stop putting false ideas in their heads.

The cube tried posturing again, but the cores below saw right through it. Perhaps the cube isn't as clever as they think? Or maybe, the cube is smarter than this core has planned for. I must think.

I'm urging everyone to vote Ruguo because if the game is as gimmicky as it appears, it is entirely reasonable that we might well just win by lynching the Game Core - since it is, after all, the GLaDOS of the game, and I'm assuming that Ruguo has actually built mechanics in along with the incredibly flavorful gameplay since that's what's been the case for both iterations. Consider that in no other game apart from the also-super-gimmicky "Werewolf XII: The Host Did It" has 'lynch the host' even been on the table as an option, and the fact that there's evidently something to this by virtue of this scoring system being unlocked as a result of someone trying to lynch the host day 1 suggests we're onto something here.
Seriously. The only way this theoretically works is if everyone piles on this, and frankly I think the best way to find any obvious defectors is to see who refuses to vote with the rest of the group on what is pretty much by definition guaranteed to at least not be a mislynch, even if it is otherwise unproductive in the end.

Side note, Pengu, iirc Ruguo prefers 'they' pronouns.

Go ahead and lynch me, then, because I'm not doing it.