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Werewolf XXII: Of Cores and Turrets
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  • In light of these events, would an extension for the day phase be useful to anyone while we get back on track?
    I think having so much time to simmer in between rounds is causing some of the issues.

    I know that the personality-moderation is separate from the game, but I also worry that it's going to give off a false impression that people are town because "you're keeping the peace, so you have to be the good guys!"

    Haha, it should go without saying that peacekeepers are just as likely to be scum as Town. I would have done this as either role.

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  • In light of these events, would an extension for the day phase be useful to anyone while we get back on track?
    I think having so much time to simmer in between rounds is causing some of the issues.

    I know that the personality-moderation is separate from the game, but I also worry that it's going to give off a false impression that people are town because "you're keeping the peace, so you have to be the good guys!"

    Haha, it should go without saying that peacekeepers are just as likely to be scum as Town. I would have done this as either role.




    That's a bit of a bold claim, interesting. You have reminded me however to go and look back at the D1 votes. I don't want to believe that all the votes against the cores we know of now were also cores. Surely some turrets joined the wagon. Of those who voted Batma n, and ExLight were definitely cores, Hapi was probably a core, and if we still believe Pengu, you can surely understand, Aragonn, that we might be sus of you.

    Excalibur, you, Gerrick, and Batma n all voted Hapi. Batma n was a core, and you're claiming an interesting role. People are town-reading Gerrick, but based on all this one of you surely must be a turret, even if Hapi was being suspicious.

    So we have Aragonn, Gerrick, Excalibur with his bold claim, and possibly Pengu, though I'm quite inclined to belive that he is core.

    I also find the Barnes vs Doc interesting as well. Not sure what that means, but I'm inclined to believe based on both of your interactions that you might not both be on the same side.
    I assure you that I am a core, but I hope I don’t have to roleclaim due to some of the restrictions behind it. It is a bold claim, but, if the way powers are ordered is how I think they are, then I am definitely one of the two reasons ExLight survived that first night (the other being his own power obviously). The problem is the blue gel screwed with my power in N2, so I wasn’t able to choose.
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  • I assure you that I am a core, but I hope I don’t have to roleclaim due to some of the restrictions behind it. It is a bold claim, but, if the way powers are ordered is how I think they are, then I am definitely one of the two reasons ExLight survived that first night (the other being his own power obviously). The problem is the blue gel screwed with my power in N2, so I wasn’t able to choose.

    What I find interesting is that I'm inclined to believe you and that scares me...
    The problem with your claim is that no one can prove it, which would be rather convenient for a turret don't you think?

    If you continue on the assumption that you're innocent, who do you think should be lynched, Aragonn, Gerrick, Pengu, or none of them?
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  • Haha, it should go without saying that peacekeepers are just as likely to be scum as Town. I would have done this as either role.
    You're equivocating! :P
    I think your phrasing would've been less suspicious if you'd said "I would have done this as scum, too", since right now you're basically implying that there's a chance you could be scum.

    I also find the Barnes vs Doc interesting as well. Not sure what that means, but I'm inclined to believe based on both of your interactions that you might not both be on the same side.
    It was honestly a hunch that I alluded to in day 1. Perhaps Arenado, Excalibur, Minish, and Pengu can speak more about this.

    Plus Laurentus was attempting to throw us off of Doc during that same chain, which I'm not comfortable with.

    Hapi was probably a core, and if we still believe Pengu, you can surely understand, Aragonn, that we might be sus of you.
    You're right, I don't believe that Aragonn and Hapi could've been on the same side. If Hapi is core, then Aragonn's wolfiness should be obvious.

    I'm voting for Aragonn at this point, but that doesn't take my suspicion off of Doc and Lau. Moot, too, for his quietness and wolfie past :P
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  • Oh, and @lil g you should vote someone else to go across the bridge since Hapi is leaving. At this point, I think I should go as I still want the core, turret, and unknown to go across and I don't trust anyone else.
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  • I assure you that I am a core, but I hope I don’t have to roleclaim due to some of the restrictions behind it. It is a bold claim, but, if the way powers are ordered is how I think they are, then I am definitely one of the two reasons ExLight survived that first night (the other being his own power obviously). The problem is the blue gel screwed with my power in N2, so I wasn’t able to choose.

    What I find interesting is that I'm inclined to believe you and that scares me...
    The problem with your claim is that no one can prove it, which would be rather convenient for a turret don't you think?

    If you continue on the assumption that you're innocent, who do you think should be lynched, Aragonn, Gerrick, Pengu, or none of them?
    No one could prove that ExLight was telling the truth, but we believed him, right? Like I said, this isn’t an official role claim, but I hope I’ve given some insight into my own abilities. As for my own hunches, I think Hapi was a core after all, meaning Aragonn is a turret. Therefore I will Unvote and Vote: Aragonn
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  • As I think the evidence against Aragonn is stronger than the evidence against Hydra, I will also Unvote and Vote: Aragonn if only to get an actual claim out of him.
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  • Of course there's a chance I'm scum. Like. There's a chance anyone here is scum.

    Also, we believed Ex because he gave details of his role. Which also got him killed. So don't do that, but also don't expect us just to take your word for things, @Excalibur.
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  • Long story short, I don't care. I'm not invested in this anymore. If you don't vote me off, I'm quitting.
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  • @Wintermoot if my calling the PM system stupid at all made you feel like your work was unappreciated. I assumed that it was a feature of the message board system and not something that would relate to your work on the forums at all. I apologize for my choice of words.

    I know you put a lot of work into this thing. That is all.

    I've quit the game so I'll take my leave now just wanted to get that out somewhere have fun everyone. GL cores!! 
    Don't worry, I didn't get that sense at all from you. The fact of the matter is there are problems with the design of the forums, and it doesn't help that SMF has been meandering toward the next major version for the last five years. I've tried to improve upon the design where I can, but unfortunately because PMs aren't used much outside of Werewolf and elections they haven't been the priority that other pages have been.

    I regret that this issue has caused you to want to leave the game...obviously, the most active game in Wintreath's history has pushed the limits of what the forums and the community can take, and I hope that we'll find ways to overcome both in the future. I'd like to think these are growing pains that we can overcome. :)
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  • Long story short, I don't care. I'm not invested in this anymore. If you don't vote me off, I'm quitting.
    I regret that you have been pushed to this. I had hoped my first interactions with all of you would be in a better light. I don't blame you.

    Sorry Ruguo, this is a lot of work for you.
    Unvote and Vote Gerrick
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  • It's not because I'm getting voted for by so many. It's the annoyance I got and then how pissed off I made others. I just don't want to be in this game anymore.
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  • Long story short, I don't care. I'm not invested in this anymore. If you don't vote me off, I'm quitting.
    I regret that this issue has caused you to want to leave as well. Things definitely got out of hand last night, but hopefully it's just a minor bump in the road in the long run. These games are meant to be fun, and I'm sorry that the game has stopped being fun for you...hopefully we will think of ways to avoid some of these issues in future games.
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  • @Wintermoot if my calling the PM system stupid at all made you feel like your work was unappreciated. I assumed that it was a feature of the message board system and not something that would relate to your work on the forums at all. I apologize for my choice of words.

    I know you put a lot of work into this thing. That is all.

    I've quit the game so I'll take my leave now just wanted to get that out somewhere have fun everyone. GL cores!! 
    Don't worry, I didn't get that sense at all from you. The fact of the matter is there are problems with the design of the forums, and it doesn't help that SMF has been meandering toward the next major version for the last five years. I've tried to improve upon the design where I can, but unfortunately because PMs aren't used much outside of Werewolf and elections they haven't been the priority that other pages have been.

    I regret that this issue has caused you to want to leave the game...obviously, the most active game in Wintreath's history has pushed the limits of what the forums and the community can take, and I hope that we'll find ways to overcome both in the future. I'd like to think these are growing pains that we can overcome. :)

    I'd like to play again in the future. I did have fun outside a few minor bumps.

    Sorry for posting again. *fades to black*
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  • I honestly feel like doing a role reveal since I'm leaving, but I don't want to affect people's decisions before eod.
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