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Quick post before bed, Ex seems like probably town, typical, reactions are typical, Hapi is probably just town that's some very impressive analytical reactions to Ex if not, brave too. Minish is not insanely making me think town but I wont worry about it, Laur is actually being kind of weird, idk if its just the avatar but I get this "why yes young padawans, come listen to my words of wisdom" that kind of scare me into thinking he's trying to use his influence to have the new players sheep him unconditionally.

Also for goodness sake, I dont know what roles the mafia have but blindly believing or disbelieving the first person who claims is just like

I cant even remember what he claimed and I dont really care I remember it had a doctor in it, but anyway claiming day one is stupid. I'm going to give Silv the benefit of the doubt and say the mafia have believable fake claims or believable claims or something, but trying to deduce alignment from that is super lame (and it does NOT always work) Ex is a big dum idr why he even bothered oh wow a few votes on you geez guess better claim NO please keep in mind that Ex is certifiably insane and should be used as an example of what not to do only k thx

Where was I so anyway believe his claim doubt his claim it doesnt matter unless he specifically claimed your exact role there is no reason to believe it isnt his actual role but of course if youre scum reading him it doesnt really matter though I'm not and would advise against it

Again I dont remember where I was going with this I just saw a lot of nonsense and it irritated me also Barnes avatar is heckin Peabody and Sherman how cute is that

Also I have work tomorrow night so I wont be able to make eod but I'll try to get some posts out in the morning

This happens with every game where there are new people. Someone usually makes an oof, I correct it, and then people sheep.

That said, I'm confused about your analysis here. I have not cast a vote yet, so there is literally no action for people to sheep on.

Unless you're referring to getting people off the Ex wagon?

You never got back to me about what you meant here. I'm still not understanding your point. Is it fear that I might use my influence to just let people sheep, or had you already observed it?

Quick post before bed, Ex seems like probably town, typical, reactions are typical, Hapi is probably just town that's some very impressive analytical reactions to Ex if not, brave too. Minish is not insanely making me think town but I wont worry about it, Laur is actually being kind of weird, idk if its just the avatar but I get this "why yes young padawans, come listen to my words of wisdom" that kind of scare me into thinking he's trying to use his influence to have the new players sheep him unconditionally.

Also for goodness sake, I dont know what roles the mafia have but blindly believing or disbelieving the first person who claims is just like

I cant even remember what he claimed and I dont really care I remember it had a doctor in it, but anyway claiming day one is stupid. I'm going to give Silv the benefit of the doubt and say the mafia have believable fake claims or believable claims or something, but trying to deduce alignment from that is super lame (and it does NOT always work) Ex is a big dum idr why he even bothered oh wow a few votes on you geez guess better claim NO please keep in mind that Ex is certifiably insane and should be used as an example of what not to do only k thx

Where was I so anyway believe his claim doubt his claim it doesnt matter unless he specifically claimed your exact role there is no reason to believe it isnt his actual role but of course if youre scum reading him it doesnt really matter though I'm not and would advise against it

Again I dont remember where I was going with this I just saw a lot of nonsense and it irritated me also Barnes avatar is heckin Peabody and Sherman how cute is that

Also I have work tomorrow night so I wont be able to make eod but I'll try to get some posts out in the morning

This happens with every game where there are new people. Someone usually makes an oof, I correct it, and then people sheep.

That said, I'm confused about your analysis here. I have not cast a vote yet, so there is literally no action for people to sheep on.

Unless you're referring to getting people off the Ex wagon?

You never got back to me about what you meant here. I'm still not understanding your point. Is it fear that I might use my influence to just let people sheep, or had you already observed it?

I’m not caught up, I’ll finish and reply to it tomorrow, bout to clock in

Also guess I’ll

Unvote

Vote: Red Mones

So I’ll have a relevant vote today

Also lol I love that you changed your avatar back XD

I'm actually kinda townreading Red Mones because they had the initiative of start the unvoting and took their time explaining it, are there any other options to save my ass or

Red came back to me after I questioned him along very similar lines to Minish, and his response made sense. I'm leaning Town, but he really should have known better than to get anywhere near that wagon.

Red came back to me after I questioned him along very similar lines to Minish, and his response made sense. I'm leaning Town, but he really should have known better than to get anywhere near that wagon.

this is kinda bullshit
you got kinda annoyed at Bernes voting me despite thinking I'm town and you're doing the same?

One votecount, as requested:

Push the button: 13

Players Who Have Voted: 11
ExLight: 3 (Excalibur, Fiji, Daw)
Red Mones: 2 (Minish, Funnier)
Barnes: 1 (Doc)
Hapi: 1 (Gerrick)
Katie/Batma n: 1 (Pengu)
Doc: 1 (Barnes)
Wintermoot: 1 (Madeline Norfolk)
Sapphiron: 1 (Laurentus)

Time Remaining: 5 hours

oh, nevermind, I guess you're not voting him

I'm pretty sure you literally called him a turret and you're also getting simultaneously more defensive and aggressive the more you try to say you're not

sips tea

I'm pretty sure I literally said he could be any role under the sun. Until he specified he was doctor, which I don't fully believe nor understand why he did it, the list and alignment could've been anything. I don't understand how you could get "this guy is a turret" out of what I said.

Welcome to Werewolf. This is what people do. I don't like it, and I keep questioning why I'm coming back.

You dont like being asked to be explain your thought process and reasoning?

I don't like how people have the tendency to dogpile you for the slightest thing like what just happened with Ex.

Red came back to me after I questioned him along very similar lines to Minish, and his response made sense. I'm leaning Town, but he really should have known better than to get anywhere near that wagon.

this is kinda bullshit
you got kinda annoyed at Bernes voting me despite thinking I'm town and you're doing the same?

Huh?

I have no idea what you're referring to here.

I got annoyed at Barnes for saying that he voted for you, even though he believed your claim. That was all.

I then asked Red about the exact thing Minish is finding him suspicious for, and this is the exchange that took place.

exchange between me and Red Mones

Oh, right, forgot Hapi and Barnes. I'll go ahead and Town both of them, because Barnes' admission that he wanted to lynch Ex even though he believed his claim would be Wolf suicide, and Hapi's aggressive push there was way too hard for an inexperienced Wolf.

And I'm not sure about Red Mones' actions there. He changed his tune fairly quickly after Ex role claimed, and he jumped on that band wagon very quickly, but out of everyone on the wagon, he was the most experienced, and that is kinda a double-edged sword. 1. He should not have been on that wagon, but 2. Removing his vote so quickly could either be that experience kicking back in again and letting his calmer head prevail, or 3. be an attempt to hop off a very bad wagon and avoid being implicated when Ex got lynched and flipped Town, thereby also proving Ex's claim, which does look a bit scummy.

You're going to have explain that one to me, @Red Mones.

And I'm not sure about Red Mones' actions there. He changed his tune fairly quickly after Ex role claimed

His role claim actually had no effect on my decision.

and he jumped on that band wagon very quickly, but out of everyone on the wagon, he was the most experienced, and that is kinda a double-edged sword.

Me? Experienced?

He should not have been on that wagon, but 2. Removing his vote so quickly could either be that experience kicking back in again and letting his calmer head prevail.

Yup, pretty much it. If you notice in the past my play style is mostly waiting until the end of phases and jumping on wagons against the popular choice. This happened last game with Aragonn but experience kicked in and I rescinded my vote. I flip flopped all over the place after that, which people inferred from that that 1 i was not a power role, 2 prob not a wolf because i was drawing too much attention and obviously wasnt following a pattern and im not nearly good enough to pull of that kind of deception. Both were correct i was just regular village. What happened this game was similar, ex pushed hard against aragonn for something dumb, but i realized he wouldnt know (i remembered mentioning aragonns play was normal but the exact time was hazy) so when they mentioned we’re ignoring order of events i read through the relevant parts and noticed the timeline exs initial push>my vote post mentioning aragonn is normal>hapi and ex’s back and forth so I realized he was right. Also things were getting a little OOC so i wanted it to calm down a little. ALSO ex is experienced so i don’t think they woyld call attention to themselves like that? But also they just might so wed assume they were ‘t scum but idk. I’ve probably made a ton of errors cuz im on mobile which freking sucks for these kind of posts also im tired and about to go to bed heh

oh, nevermind, I guess you're not voting him

yea I corrected myself, I thought you had voted him at some point

Despite Funnier's clear I'm-not-liking-Lau sentiment (</3 BTW), I have to agree with him on the button thing. It could help Town, but it's also an extra complexity in a game that's already quite a bit more complex than we're used to playing, and we already have quite a few new players who are struggling to keep up as it is.

I will therefore be taking back my vote to push the button.

It's not really all that complex without the button though. It appears to be pretty standard without the button. It is my understanding that the game will be much more interesting should the button be pushed.

Despite Funnier's clear I'm-not-liking-Lau sentiment (</3 BTW), I have to agree with him on the button thing. It could help Town, but it's also an extra complexity in a game that's already quite a bit more complex than we're used to playing, and we already have quite a few new players who are struggling to keep up as it is.

I will therefore be taking back my vote to push the button.

It's not really all that complex without the button though. It appears to be pretty standard without the button. It is my understanding that the game will be much more interesting should the button be pushed.

Still a fuck ton of players with no roles list.

That is true. I suppose we could wait until pushing the button. It was more or less just something that piqued my interest because mechanics.

After spending over an hour reading everything, I am going to Vote Exlight because their defense looks like many attempts to either get the votes off of them or move the conversation away from them, and some of the defenses contradict each other, which makes them seem very suspicious to me.