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A LOT of the players are new since we’ve had a surge in members in the past week or so. This is the first time( in the region at least) Hapi or Daw have played, and I don’t think I’ve played with Barnes. Other wise most members here are fairly new I think (like me, I was introduced to the game here, and I’ve only play maybe 8 or so games, though I’ve played a decent amount of ToS)

Doc’s analysis posts are normal and consistent.

I don't even know any more.

You're right, Lau, my reasoning is illogical. But I wanted to keep it civil, and in my eyes Ex was not being civil. I want to preserve our numbers as well, but in the moment it felt like at too great a cost. Arguments like this make me not want to play this game.

I'll admit it's also my first game in a couple of years, and the jargon intimidates me, which furthered my thoughts of Ex being aggressive.

Wow, this is an OMGUS vote if ever I've seen one.

We have people straight up saying they believe Ex's claim, and yet they wanna lynch him.

Guys, you're not going to get along with every player you come across, but come on, can we please stop personally attacking Ex?

Sheeping is a legit Werewolf term. Getting offended at it is as good as getting offended at being called scum, when really the person calling you that just means they think you're a Wolf.

Please, this is a game about lying and confrontation, but can we at least keep it civil?

This kinda looks like two townies who tunneled in on each other, going off what I know of Ara's meta.

A. I've in fact never claimed that I believed them I voted then because I find their actions to be the most suspicious


B. I'm overly honest. Sorry if it seems somehow like an attack its not. I legit feel like they have approached this game with aggression and hostility from the start and it LEGIT bothers me.

C. I have more than once explained my reasoning. They haven't satisfied me with their reasoning.

D. I don't feel I've been uncivil here.



Maybe all this is normal in Werewolf. This is my first game but I've truly been bothered by a lot of the reaction in this game so far.

You've called him arrogant. A few times. And yet you don't know him.

Honestly, as a new party to the whole thing that went down, you were being far more toxic and aggressive than Ex was.

"Mainly.
This.
Whole.
Thing"

"Your aggressive attitude and ego honestly just make me want to lynch you more just to remove you from this game to be honest."

In what world is that not downright rude and aggressive?

Also, I was quoting Barnes' sheep vote as the one where a dude just straight up says he believed Ex's claim, yet wants to lynch them anyway.

But yeah, way too aggressive a push to make me think Hapi is a Wolf. I would certainly not have been this bold in my first game, if I rolled scum.

K. I like legit just said what I thought.

If being honest is toxic aggression than whatever but where I'm standing I said how I felt.

They asked for an example.

I provided it.

There answers since haven't changed my mind.

I'll just stop posting now though till next phase.

I'll just stop posting now though till next phase.

nononono
not discussing stuff is the worst thing town can do

keep talking even if the whole world disagrees, that's how we get info about players

Arguments like this make me not want to play this game.

Basically this x 1 million lol

No harm done, everyone. This is a game where a lot of people will poke and prod you to see how you react, and it can get heated. Let's just move on and forget this thing happened.

Fierce friendships can be formed in this game, like my friendly rivalry with Sapph. Just remember that this is a game, when all is said and done, and the objective is for 6 people here to literally lie, deceive and turn us against each other. In such an environment, there is no room to take things personally.

I don't even know any more.

You're right, Lau, my reasoning is illogical. But I wanted to keep it civil, and in my eyes Ex was not being civil. I want to preserve our numbers as well, but in the moment it felt like at too great a cost. Arguments like this make me not want to play this game.

I'll admit it's also my first game in a couple of years, and the jargon intimidates me, which furthered my thoughts of Ex being aggressive.

By jargon do you mean my choice of words or the use of terms like sheeping

if it's the former I can see it coming off as a bit aggressive, but if it's the latter I'd actually be surprised tbh

Oh before I do I guess

UnVote: ExLight

I'm less suspicious than before but not convinced that this isn't just deflection.

By jargon do you mean my choice of words or the use of terms like sheeping

Any game-technical terms like "scum", "omgus", "meta info", "townleaning", etc. It just makes it feel like you guys are all acting too experienced at the game, and almost ruins the fun of being a casual player.

I realize I took not being over that learning curve personally as well, and I'm sorry for being hypocritical about it.

I'll unvote ExLight, but I'm still the tiniest bit hurt at your surprise 

Haha, I had to learn these terms in a goddamned championship game last year, and I spent the first day phase confused and overwhelmed af. I sympathise.

To all newer players, please, don't be ashamed to ask what certain terms mean, and also don't be afraid to use the website I've linked to a few times by now. It will help you immensely.

I just went through the last 6 pages I guess, I'm a bit lost with what's been going on so far so I'm not really sure what to say.

Haha, I had to learn these terms in a goddamned championship game last year, and I spent the first day phase confused and overwhelmed af. I sympathise.

To all newer players, please, don't be ashamed to ask what certain terms mean, and also don't be afraid to use the website I've linked to a few times by now. It will help you immensely.

I'm honestly just going to google the terms from now on, but I've always been of the opinion that relying on jargon (for any application) makes games/concepts less accessible.

And if someone asks, I'll be willing to google/explain terms for you!

No harm done, everyone. This is a game where a lot of people will poke and prod you to see how you react, and it can get heated. Let's just move on and forget this thing happened.

Fierce friendships can be formed in this game, like my friendly rivalry with Sapph. Just remember that this is a game, when all is said and done, and the objective is for 6 people here to literally lie, deceive and turn us against each other. In such an environment, there is no room to take things personally.

This.  Werewolf/Mafia thrives on manipulation to gauge reactios from people.  For all anyone knows, a defensive emotional outburst can always be a WW ploy to draw attention away from them, just as voting for yourself or "being away for the next day" can be tactics to remove suspicion.

A lot of times, you'll see experienced players get a rise out of people to see where they're at, and the more you play the more you'll learn how to channel and hide those emotions so that you're less exploited regardless of what role you are.

In the end though, nothing negative is really meant by it.  We're all friends here regardless of things that have been said. 

Like Laurentus said, I'd also highly, highly recommend looking at the slang thread.  There's going to be a lot of insulting sounding words that might be said, but a lot of them are common Mafia/Werewolf terms we just haven't used in here such as "Scum" and "Sheep" which have already been used.

The environment takes some getting used to, for sure. I know I'm certainly still friends with all of you, but part of me was worried that I'd change my outlook on those friendships because of how the game went.

A friend being a wolf (or a friend accusing me of being a wolf) wouldn't have changed that, but being a shithead in the game was going to be hard to separate from being a shithead in the community at large.