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Your aggressive attitude and ego honestly just make me want to lynch you more just to remove you from this game to be honest.

I second this. I'm assuming ExLight is telling the truth, but the general unfriendliness and defensiveness is not worth keeping him around as a villager at this point.

People will accuse you unfairly of being a werewolf all the time in this game. Calling the rest of us "sheep" for it and taking the accusation personally is toxic.

You remind me of the people in Town of Salem who spam chat to lynch one randomly selected person as soon as they are able than get super upset when town turns on them.

You've repeatedly called out Aragonn even though

A. He was genuinely trying to be helpful

B. Almost everyone has stated this is how Aragonn always plays

C. From context I can gather this exact situation involving the same player has already played out before.

Yet you won't stop incessently calling him out and throw a fit anytime anyone thinks that might seem a wee bit sus eh?

And I have no idea where "ego" is coming from.

Mainly.
This.
Whole.
Thing.

My wagon exploding while I was busy sleeping in my sofa while approaching mid-late Day Phase, with most votes being sheeping basically, isn't natural at all. I'm fine with lynching anyone that is in it at this point.

Just dropping a few other points in my defense, but other points for scum going after me include: Easy lynch target for being a stranger in this community; me being considered a strong player since I'm joining the Champs as a sub this year; and me "softing" a power role, which wasn't really a soft but after the role baiting Aragonn threw kinda might've convinced scum, so who knows :shrugs:, unfortunately he was right and I do have a moderately strong role.

But specifically this part.

me being considered a strong player since I'm joining the Champs as a sub this year

Now maybe that's true. I don't know what championships is or who you are and I certainly don't know if your a strong player or not but using it as your defense to me reeks of ego

Look, English isn't my native language and people often tell me I sound aggressive or confusing; I'm not sure what yall reading my messages like, but I'm just trying to start discussions here and I assure you being hostile wasn't my intention.

I have no meta about any of you to work with, and I have no way of telling whether or not that is Aragonn's usual playstyle; and it kinda baffles me that this is being ignored.

And I would really appreciate if people talked back to me to help me understand why I'm being treated like this instead of patting each other on their back over my lynch and ignoring my attempts of approaching the game. Just because I'm not from this community doesn't mean I should be shadowed like I'm being right now.

Your aggressive attitude and ego honestly just make me want to lynch you more just to remove you from this game to be honest.

I second this. I'm assuming ExLight is telling the truth, but the general unfriendliness and defensiveness is not worth keeping him around as a villager at this point.

People will accuse you unfairly of being a werewolf all the time in this game. Calling the rest of us "sheep" for it and taking the accusation personally is toxic.

Yes, I'm usually kept as lynch bait, but surprisingly I have never been mislynched as town outside D1, so basically once you trust me there isn't much regret.
Can you elaborate on why me calling votes I feel like are unjustified "sheeping" is toxic to you? It's literally the term I've always seem being used for it, and it in no way attacks you all on a personal level.

If you're assuming I'm telling the truth you shouldn't be wanting my lynch, so this comes off as quite weird to me.

Your aggressive attitude and ego honestly just make me want to lynch you more just to remove you from this game to be honest.

I second this. I'm assuming ExLight is telling the truth, but the general unfriendliness and defensiveness is not worth keeping him around as a villager at this point.

People will accuse you unfairly of being a werewolf all the time in this game. Calling the rest of us "sheep" for it and taking the accusation personally is toxic.

I'm glad I'm not crazy lol.

Look, English isn't my native language and people often tell me I sound aggressive or confusing; I'm not sure what yall reading my messages like, but I'm just trying to start discussions here and I assure you being hostile wasn't my intention.

I have no meta about any of you to work with, and I have no way of telling whether or not that is Aragonn's usual playstyle; and it kinda baffles me that this is being ignored.

And I would really appreciate if people talked back to me to help me understand why I'm being treated like this instead of patting each other on their back over my lynch and ignoring my attempts of approaching the game. Just because I'm not from this community doesn't mean I should be shadowed like I'm being right now.

I feel like many people have repeatedly engaged you and you've mainly ignored them and continued attackimg Aragonn.

I also feel Aragonn has more than adequately explained his rationale to you and you have mainly ignored that as well.

He's defensive but I'd be defensive if I was instantly called out over skewing info I genuinely thought helpful than when I explained my reasons I continued to be called out.

You remind me of the people in Town of Salem who spam chat to lynch one randomly selected person as soon as they are able than get super upset when town turns on them.

You've repeatedly called out Aragonn even though

A. He was genuinely trying to be helpful

B. Almost everyone has stated this is how Aragonn always plays

C. From context I can gather this exact situation involving the same player has already played out before.

Yet you won't stop incessently calling him out and throw a fit anytime anyone thinks that might seem a wee bit sus eh?

You're free to interpret it this way, but answering your points:
A. First, this is kinda your interpretation of what's going on, you don't know for sure his true intentions, and I also don't know yours, so stating this as absolute truth doesn't really make it a solid argument. Second, Scum can also be "helpful" with stuff while CWAC, fact is that he came off as aggressive towards me and I have the right of poking that to get more reactions so I have more stuff to work with.

B. They mentioned it after the whole thing got some speed tbh, this point is really weak and is ignoring the order of the events.

C. Cool, so that's not really a me problem, right.

And I have no idea where "ego" is coming from.

Mainly.
This.
Whole.
Thing.
But specifically this part.

me being considered a strong player since I'm joining the Champs as a sub this year

Now maybe that's true. I don't know what championships is or who you are and I certainly don't know if your a strong player or not but using it as your defense to me reeks of ego

The Champs is the largest mafia event; think of it as it being like the World Cup of mafia or someshit. It's not ego, people fear Laurentus and Funnier due to them being in it last year, I'm not sure why scum couldn't be paranoid about me since I'm also a potential player this year.
It's not about ego, I didn't even want to be there, lol; but I am and it could be seen as another point as why scum would want to get rid of me before I started getting some momentum or trust in the game.

I feel like many people have repeatedly engaged you and you've mainly ignored them and continued attackimg Aragonn.

Again, I feel like this is ignoring the order of events

I literally just woke up and saw people coming after me
I'm taking my time to address them, not sure when I had the time to attack Aragonn after that nor how I ignored them

Let's put it this way ExLight, nothing Aragonn is doing right now is out of the ordinary. You are right, you don't know how members here play. He seemed the most suspicious to you, so you went after him. We tried to tell you he's playing normally, but it was well after your initial attacks. You are right, we are ignoring the order of events. At this point it's turned into attacks that are taken as personal, regardless of the intent. I need to stress this, Aragonn is playing normally. It should have no bearing on your reasoning. Now that you know that, I hope you'll rethink your thought process. I'll extend an olive branch (since it is my belief your attacks and later, defensiveness, are reasonable) and remove my vote from ExLight. I will still Vote: Press the button.

@Minish
@funnier6
@Laurentus

do these pings even work aaa
the whole getting-voted-D1-in-a-foreigner-community-thing is happening again

can you help me here since you have some meta knowledge about me and help me explain I'm not the baby eater they're treating me as

Let's put it this way ExLight, nothing Aragonn is doing right now is out of the ordinary. You are right, you don't know how members here play. He seemed the most suspicious to you, so you went after him. We tried to tell you he's playing normally, but it was well after your initial attacks. You are right, we are ignoring the order of events. At this point it's turned into attacks that are taken as personal, regardless of the intent. I need to stress this, Aragonn is playing normally. It should have no bearing on your reasoning. Now that you know that, I hope you'll rethink your thought process. I'll extend an olive branch (since it is my belief your attacks and later, defensiveness, are reasonable) and remove my vote from ExLight. I will still Vote: Press the button.

someone willing to give me a chance
bless you

I'll consider that for now, but as the game goes on meta becomes less and less relevant than in-game actions; if I still think he's acting scummy later in the game I'll purse it again and reuse these D1 events as an argument.

Unvote: Aragonn

Would you mind giving me me some meta info about Hapi and Barnes? And eventually Dawcreek and Doc if they turn out to be lurking.

Wow, this is an OMGUS vote if ever I've seen one.

We have people straight up saying they believe Ex's claim, and yet they wanna lynch him.

Guys, you're not going to get along with every player you come across, but come on, can we please stop personally attacking Ex?

Sheeping is a legit Werewolf term. Getting offended at it is as good as getting offended at being called scum, when really the person calling you that just means they think you're a Wolf.

Please, this is a game about lying and confrontation, but can we at least keep it civil?

This kinda looks like two townies who tunneled in on each other, going off what I know of Ara's meta.

Your aggressive attitude and ego honestly just make me want to lynch you more just to remove you from this game to be honest.

I second this. I'm assuming ExLight is telling the truth, but the general unfriendliness and defensiveness is not worth keeping him around as a villager at this point.

People will accuse you unfairly of being a werewolf all the time in this game. Calling the rest of us "sheep" for it and taking the accusation personally is toxic.

Frankly, this is incredibly poor play. How can you think a dude is Town and still wanna lynch them? You're giving the Wolves a free kill.

Wow, this is an OMGUS vote if ever I've seen one.

We have people straight up saying they believe Ex's claim, and yet they wanna lynch him.

Guys, you're not going to get along with every player you come across, but come on, can we please stop personally attacking Ex?

Sheeping is a legit Werewolf term. Getting offended at it is as good as getting offended at being called scum, when really the person calling you that just means they think you're a Wolf.

Please, this is a game about lying and confrontation, but can we at least keep it civil?

This kinda looks like two townies who tunneled in on each other, going off what I know of Ara's meta.

A. I've in fact never claimed that I believed them I voted then because I find their actions to be the most suspicious


B. I'm overly honest. Sorry if it seems somehow like an attack its not. I legit feel like they have approached this game with aggression and hostility from the start and it LEGIT bothers me.

C. I have more than once explained my reasoning. They haven't satisfied me with their reasoning.

D. I don't feel I've been uncivil here.



Maybe all this is normal in Werewolf. This is my first game but I've truly been bothered by a lot of the reaction in this game so far.

Maybe all this is normal in Werewolf. This is my first game but I've truly been bothered by a lot of the reaction in this game so far.

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ok I'm townleaning you if this is your first game
no way scum would draw attention to them like this lmfao


DOES ANYONE ELSE HERE HAVE LIKE 5 OR LESS GAMES UNDER THEIR BELT THIS IS KINDA IMPORTANT

Wow, this is an OMGUS vote if ever I've seen one.

We have people straight up saying they believe Ex's claim, and yet they wanna lynch him.

Guys, you're not going to get along with every player you come across, but come on, can we please stop personally attacking Ex?

Sheeping is a legit Werewolf term. Getting offended at it is as good as getting offended at being called scum, when really the person calling you that just means they think you're a Wolf.

Please, this is a game about lying and confrontation, but can we at least keep it civil?

This kinda looks like two townies who tunneled in on each other, going off what I know of Ara's meta.

A. I've in fact never claimed that I believed them I voted then because I find their actions to be the most suspicious


B. I'm overly honest. Sorry if it seems somehow like an attack its not. I legit feel like they have approached this game with aggression and hostility from the start and it LEGIT bothers me.

C. I have more than once explained my reasoning. They haven't satisfied me with their reasoning.

D. I don't feel I've been uncivil here.



Maybe all this is normal in Werewolf. This is my first game but I've truly been bothered by a lot of the reaction in this game so far.

You've called him arrogant. A few times. And yet you don't know him.

Honestly, as a new party to the whole thing that went down, you were being far more toxic and aggressive than Ex was.

"Mainly.
This.
Whole.
Thing"

"Your aggressive attitude and ego honestly just make me want to lynch you more just to remove you from this game to be honest."

In what world is that not downright rude and aggressive?

Also, I was quoting Barnes' sheep vote as the one where a dude just straight up says he believed Ex's claim, yet wants to lynch them anyway.

But yeah, way too aggressive a push to make me think Hapi is a Wolf. I would certainly not have been this bold in my first game, if I rolled scum.