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but why would they do that instead of just leaving him around since he's more likely to disrupt town

Statistically, yes. But also it's Pengu. The guy isn't an idiot. And if we get blue gel from pushing the button, according to his claim, he can out a wolf. That makes him a liability. If the wolves leave him alone, they're probably going to regret it later.

But also Laurentus could be a scum seer because I've seen those before. The wolves could target Pengu instead or start up a bandwagon on him.

All I'm saying is, if Pengu is a scum jailor, he can out somebody and let the wolves kill his target the next night to make it seem like he's a townie jailor.

Speculating on future kills and going as far as saying what smart scum kills would be, for example. Sure, they could probably figure this out on their own but they don't need any help, and you're giving it to them freely. Now, you're also setting up all these people as targets for a paranoid town if these things don't happen, too.

Any doctors/protectors who have not outed themselves could defend these people. I've as much a possibility of coordinating town as I have scum and possibly in the process lives get saved. Although nobody actually needs me to think aloud like this...

Yeah, I'm not really getting wolf vibes from most of the people leading the discussions. Think it's just town fighting each other. I'm half-tempted by

this

All I'm saying is, if Pengu is a scum jailor, he can out somebody and let the wolves kill his target the next night to make it seem like he's a townie jailor.

as it seems like a plausible tactic for Pengu, but it just doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do. And personally it does just seem like Aragonn is theorizing out loud to me.


I am worried about so many people staying relatively quiet, though, so here's who I'm finding more suspicious:
Doc
Arenado
Marzipan
El Fiji Grande
Sapphiron
Crushita
Madeline Norfolk
William Rhys

For now, I'll Vote: Sapphiron.

This

Oh my! Lau, I am not sure what you were expecting me to contribute on the first day phase. There's little information in the past 10 pages beyond arguments surrounding personalities. And I am not going to meta-game, especially not at this point, since I have not played Werewolf for a while now and not completely familiar (if at all) with every participant's play style. Everyone is just taking a shot in the dark, voting and unvoting, and I am certainly not going to jump ExLight's wagon for his antagonistic play style. Then again, you probably voted for me so that I will talk more, and if so you did achieve that. In fact, I have more trust in a Lau that would lynch me on D1 than a Lau that blindly trusts me, which usually turns out to be Wolf rather than Seer so.

Anyway, let's get the button pressed guys

just doesn't sit right with me with how quiet he's been.

Any doctors/protectors who have not outed themselves could defend these people. I've as much a possibility of coordinating town as I have scum and possibly in the process lives get saved. Although nobody actually needs me to think aloud like this...

Yeah, but who knows how many doctors/protectors we have? They can only save so many people.

Huh, I only just noticed that Mathyland is no longer on the player list.  Surprised there wasn't a post about that.

There was a post when Weiss replaced Mathy. There was also one about LG replacing Ender if you missed that one.


If my math is correct, and disregarding double votes as all button votes are cumulative, we are at 14 votes to push the button. One more is needed to hit majority with 28 players living.

I'll go ahead and Vote: Push the button

Any doctors/protectors who have not outed themselves could defend these people. I've as much a possibility of coordinating town as I have scum and possibly in the process lives get saved. Although nobody actually needs me to think aloud like this...

This is exactly what I have a problem with. You're diverting attention to these possibilities, so docs might feel compelled to protect them, and then end up getting killed themselves, as they no longer self-target. This is WIFOM we do not need. It's not solving any problems, it's creating them.

That's assuming they'd be protecting themselves to begin with. And as was stated before, the goal isn't to survive. It's to kill the wolves before they win the numbers advantage. If you're just protecting yourself when you're not a target you're handing the wolves a night kill.

And with Excalibur's vote, the button has been pressed

Blue Bouncy Gel is now in effect.

Blue Bouncy Gel: Actions this round may become jumbled. Every fifth vote will be randomly recast. Yes, this action effect can be negated with a little problem solving.

All button votes have reset.

Of course there's a bit of flavor here too

The button catches for a minute, having not been used for several thousand years. The pipes above grind for a second, releasing a cloud of red dust across the entire room. It's a good thing machines don't breath, as there's a good chance said dust is toxic.
A low rumble spreads across the room as blobs of blue pour out of the ceiling, coating everything in sight in blue gel. Anything unsecured bounces around at the slightest movement, and several players find themselves hurtling through the air.

Well that effect can only help the wolves. We can really use the actions people do as evidence if it's all scrambled.

Vote: Push Button

*We can't really, dammit.

I'm going to assume that we don't know the full number of effects, and that there isn't a "neutral" effect that returns everything to normal after a certain number of cycles. But I still don't like this one.

Push the button.

Amusingly, since this is the one that I said would give me clues to turrets, I'm going to avoid pressing it for now.

Amusingly, since this is the one that I said would give me clues to turrets, I'm going to avoid pressing it for now.

it's almost like they're in the order in the OP and that you realized that right
:glare:

Amusingly, since this is the one that I said would give me clues to turrets, I'm going to avoid pressing it for now.

it's almost like they're in the order in the OP and that you realized that right
:glare:

Considering there's nothing that states that they'll go in that order, there's really no way I could have assumed it would be the first one.  For all I know, it could have started with Orange or White.