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I must be crazy because I think the case against Pengu is unconvincing. But I'm going to wait and see how things play out here.

Welp, that escalated quickly.  But since I already outted my role, I should just come out and clarify that no, I'm not a Scum Jailer.  One of my effects (the Blue Gel one) gives me clues about who a Turret may be during nights when it's activated, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be the Scum's favorite person.

Please stop claiming what your role effects are. v_v

Especially when you've got like one vote against you.

Lol why wouldn't you reveal role effects?

Lol why wouldn't you reveal role effects?

OOF I'M GONNA GO BALLISTIC it logged me out mid post i am peeved. i'll try to recreate the exact post lmao

since laurentus asked, i played for a few years on zd, then fell off the wagon. i came back recently and have been playing very sporadically. (laurentus i believe we've played together before?)

i'm currently townreading barnes, laurentus, ex, minish, and hapi.

I have suspicions of varying degrees on the following players (some of these are just copy/pasted from my notes, sorry if they're difficult to read):
Sapphiron - said to be experienced. hopped in, didn't vote and instead voted to push the button.
Wintermoot - took no stance on EOD1 wagons. voted someone with no votes instead. potential distancing but that's based on nothing
El Fiji Grande - voted ex with no explanation and then dipped
Madeline Norfolk - posted nothing that actually contributes to the game. recently has said "don't lynch me i'm just here for memes" which reads to me as "help this is my first game and i rolled scum"
Red Mones - iirc there were pings throughout D1 but i didn't write them down (they must not have been very important lol). what i'm most interested in is what i perceived as a small "panic" (exaggeration on my part) when two people voted for them. this one isn't as strong as the others and i probably wouldn't pursue them today, but they're definitely on my radar.
Pengu - i've already laid out m'case

Everyone else didn't strike me. I ought to reread, but Effort™. also i think Ex vs aragorn was town vs town probably.

Also, guys, please refrain from posting exact details about your night actions as far as possible.

You can use it when the time is right, for example when you can out someone's lies and help us lynch particularly tricky scum.

Scum is almost guaranteed to plan their own night actions around every piece of info they gain about our roles.

^^^^^^this (granted, i'm a person who hates pointless roleclaims in general)

^ Because that.

Mathy quit and was replaced by the dino person (lil g)  I think.

Or Weiss. One of them.

Correct, it was me.

I have played games where a wolf can have power roles such as Jailer, so neither Pengu's claim nor Lau's confirmation necessarily prove their innocence as townies in a game this complex.

EFG's vote-then-duck is also somewhat suspicious.

For the most part I'm still settling in and reading through the thread to get a better idea of how this game is going to play out.

I also Vote: Push the Button.

Huh, I only just noticed that Mathyland is no longer on the player list.  Surprised there wasn't a post about that.

Funnier did choose me as the middleman for his role. I only got a message saying to choose someone. Funnier's cryptic post was saying he wanted me to choose Laurentus, so that's what I did. No clue what affect it had though. But if jailer works here how I'm used to it probably wouldn't have mattered anyways since Laurentus couldn't be targetted while in jail.
As for the jailer claim, it is a bit odd that you outed both yourself and Laurentus. I'm not doubting the claim itself as it seems to check out. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's town. I dunno about here, but jailer can be a scum role. Hell, I've been a scum jailer. So I'm skeptical of Pengu for how he's gone about things. I think LG has composed a pretty decent case on him. And I feeling good about her right now, she's looking pretty townie to me. Since she usually is less assertive as scum. Though I have the slightest hesitancy since she did play a great scum game recently. But under these circumstances I'm really liking her entry into the game and she's giving me LG scum hunting vibes.

That is an interesting possibility: scum jailors.  My only experience with jailors is from Town of Salem where they are always on the Town's side.  I don't think there has been any jailors in any Werewolf games here but that makes sense that there could be evil jailors in other games.  I am seeing enough good points made about Pengu that I am suspicious but not enough to vote yet.

I am also starting to wonder about Arenado because although they are usually somewhat quiet in games of Werewolf, they seem to have been even quieter than usual in this game.

My response to post interruptions: that is exactly why it is a bad idea to reveal your role unless you absolutely have to.  You are painting an enormous target for scum.  Revealing role effects just makes you an even bigger target for the scum if they are useful effects.

*shrugs* first time I'm on the chipping block y'all gonna know everything about me 

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I am also starting to wonder about Arenado because although they are usually somewhat quiet in games of Werewolf, they seem to have been even quieter than usual in this game.

This logic makes more sense than the Pengu bandwagon to me in all honesty.

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I am also starting to wonder about Arenado because although they are usually somewhat quiet in games of Werewolf, they seem to have been even quieter than usual in this game.

Not gonna lie, I actually forgot he was playing for a moment.  And for Arenado, that's a little unusual for him to be quiet enough to forget about him.

*shrugs* first time I'm on the chipping block y'all gonna know everything about me 

you say that but you didn't spill the beans even when you almost got lynched last phase

Welp, that escalated quickly.  But since I already outted my role, I should just come out and clarify that no, I'm not a Scum Jailer.  One of my effects (the Blue Gel one) gives me clues about who a Turret may be during nights when it's activated, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be the Scum's favorite person.

What? How is this in any way related to what the Blue Gel does according to the OP?

But if jailer works here how I'm used to it probably wouldn't have mattered anyways since Laurentus couldn't be targetted while in jail.

It seems like it's the chat variant since Pengu got to talk to him and figure out he had an investigative role.

@Pengu
was Laurentus immune to all kinds of night actions the night you jailed him or just kills?

All I'm saying is, if Pengu is a scum jailor, he can out somebody and let the wolves kill his target the next night to make it seem like he's a townie jailor.

Well. I'm probably dying.

But also Laurentus could be a scum seer because I've seen those before. The wolves could target Pengu instead or start up a bandwagon on him.