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Werewolf XXI: The Beginning of the End
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Laurentus
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  • I am defending myself. Did you not see Hydra's post? And to be sure, yes, I usually tend to lead the discussion. What I mean by "rolled this way" is that if you rolled Wolf, then there's really no other way this could have ended. The same would be true if I rolled wolf.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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    Aragonn
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  • What do you mean there's no other way this could have ended? No, you're not going to sit there and claim that you know I'm a wolf with absolute certainty on day 3 without being the seer. Not without being challenged.
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    Laurentus
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  • I've already said I'm not 100% sure. Nothing in this game is. I still think with the way you've behaved, I am more certain of you being the Wolf than anyone else.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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    Aragonn
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  • It's also highly beneficial for the wolves to take control over the daytime discourse. If suspicions are always led away from the wolves to targets the wolves deem dangerous, you get the benefits of no wolf getting targeted while you eliminate threats at twice the rate.

    I know my fate is already sealed. I have 4 votes against me and nobody to come to my aid. But while I still draw breath, I will continue to speak.
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    Aragonn
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  • I should amend my statement. I have nobody else to come to my aid. Kane and Hydra have tried to help me.
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    Melehan
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  • A lot of you seem to have missed that, at the time I voted for Aragonn, he was the one who started the wagon on Hydra by being the first second vote of the day AND that Aragonn was the first second vote on Day 1 as well. That is TWO wagons he was responsible for with minimal/no evidence or reasoning (Day 1 was ostensibly to keep Doc alive while Day 3 is just a vague "trail of thought").

    He's since changed his vote, but the fact that he's started two wagons still strikes me as extremely suspicious. Hence why I'm maintaining my vote for him.

    With that said, there have been a few interesting points since brought up, such as how Lau has basically been guiding today's discussion and how Doc has not exactly been voting according to his stated observations. They're not enough to make me switch my vote to someone else since I still think Aragonn is the most suspicious thus far, but it's definitely something I'll be watching.

    Assuming I survive tonight. I usually get killed around this point.
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    Aragonn
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  • Two votes isn't a wagon. Even if I was starting a wagon, nobody was hopping on board. You'd think the other wolves would hop on board to ensure the death of the target. Also, who ever has any evidence on day 1? That argument from you is weak af. And yes, I was going off my trail of thought on day 3. I had little to nothing that I saw other than a hunch that a Valerian was behind things. I had two to choose from and chose essentially at random. The fact that you find Laurentus scummy and find Doc highly suspect but refuse to move off of me says a lot about you.
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    Hey Pengu, I just wanted to check if this phase ends at 1:45 a.m. pacific standard time or daylight time.
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  • @Aragonn

    Why were you starting a wagon on Day 1 instead of voting for someone who had no votes yet?

    Why didn't you give any reasoning beyond the vague "trail of thought" when you became the second vote on Hydra?

    Why did you accuse me of providing no reasoning for my vote when I provided a lot more reasoning than you did?

    Your responses to things have not been helping your case, particularly how you're all bluster and minimal reasoning.

    Meanwhile, even though Fiji is pointing suspicion at me based on mistaken facts, at least there's a line of reasoning that can be followed. Though while I'm here, @El Fiji Grande, does the fact that Aragonn has been the first to pile more than once this game already change anything for you?
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    Aragonn
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  • Again, I was playing the nice guy day 1. My big fat mistake. As for my Hydra vote, I can't explain it. It was a hunch. It was a guy feeling. And turns out my suspicions about a Valerian being wolf were right. It just wasn't the one that I thought.

    As for your vote, the reasoning wasn't posted for people to see until after I challenged you. It was so vague and uninformative before that. And all I did was try to discredit you. Because yes, you looked hypocritical. At least on the surface.
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    Melehan
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  • My reasoning was in my vote post. Perhaps not in fill gory detail, but it was still in my initial post, and I've since explained my reasons more in-depth.

    You still haven't explained your reasons for voting Hydra except to say that you can't explain it, and apparently your only reason for voting Lau is out of spite. Neither of those non-reasons are helping your case.
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    Aragonn
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  • I gave my reason. You've refused to accept it. And if someone like me doesn't understand what you're trying to say, you didn't say it clearly.
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    Ruguo
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  • So what we have learned is that spring break does not equal more time for werewolf. It somehow means less. Argh.

    That said, here are my top three scumspects based on gomeplay:

    Aaragon: I can't really speak to his playstyle, but I didn't like when he piled on me for not good reason. I mean, piling on me is generally a good play as I tend to put my own foot in my mouth and become an easy target, but hey, this isn't about me, this is about the piling. He's been combative with Lau, which is also easy to do, but it makes me think he's hiding something, especially since Mel is reasonable if you're not dodging questions. I also kinda sorta think the Hydra thing is an elaborate bus. I mean, comes out of nowhere, gains traction, then is abandoned once he comes under attack.

    El Fiji Grande: Was poked, responded weakly, went silent again, voted Melehan. Granted, when I hosted I had to poke them a lot too. This could just be standard fiji. However, the agreeing with Melehan and then attacking them for being too defensive seems a bit sketch. Seems like a play to get more people off of Aaragon. Now maybe they're being reasonable here and I'm not. But if Aaragon flips wolf, I'd take a good long look at fiji and hydra.

    Laurentus: Mister push man. Pushed all day, and while that is very normal, seems like he pushed at the first person to do something even remotely sus. If Aaragon flips town, I'd want to push into Lau a bit more.

    As to the wtf was that move list, we have

    Kane! Why vote gerrick? You say he voted suspiciously. Seems to me like he was making a joke ot go with his vote. That said, the second person on this list is

    Gerrick! Why did you vote like that? I'd like some more reasoning. Both of these people are not that sus yet, but definitely on the radar.

    No one is on the clear list yet, so consider yourself appraised as neutral if you didn't make a list.

    Also, Happyspin, thank you for the reaction test thing, very cool. Today doesn't seem like it would have fallen this way had you not given it the opportunity to pile and kick off.

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  • Oh good lord I forgot to vote. I also grossly misspelled Aragonn. So if anyone knows where I left my brain, please let me know. It's like I'm trying to make stupid plays now.

    Vote: Aragonn
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    Michi
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  • We'll end this phase on 3/7/2020 at 1:45AM PST.
    Hey Pengu, I just wanted to check if this phase ends at 1:45 a.m. pacific standard time or daylight time.

    Look at it more as exactly 48 hours from when that post was made in your time.  Currently it's almost 8:30 PM here, and the phase will end  at 1:45AM here, which is roughly 5 hours from now.

    However, I realize DLS made us lose an hour, so it'll be pushed back to 2:45AM to give it the full 48 hours.
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