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Recognition of the Events of February 22-23
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  • I don't like it, because it doesn't make mention of the fact that there was such a huge divide to begin with. "Rekindling" works for what has since happened, with our activity on Discord especially skyrocketting, but doesn't take what happened before into account.
    Rekindling implies a previously extinguished flame though. Which to me seems metaphorically apt. But perhaps something more explicit may be preferable for those more closely involved.
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  • I like Day of Rekindling. Still like Unity Day, too.

    Think the bill should also add that it happened on February 22/23 of 2020 to mark the actual date ("It recognizes the events that lasted over those days in 2020" or something to that effect).

    I'd also be interested to hear from those more intimately involved if they think further description should be added rather than just "the events" and "how the community was brought together" as someone reading about this holiday would have no idea what it's talking about (perhaps mention the Schism and Reconciliation or whatever we're calling them now?) -- unless that would create possible controversy.
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  • I wouldn't mind a little more description, we just don't want to get incredibly wordy about it too.  Or, "The events" can have a link (or links) to the topic(s) that talks about the events as well so that they can get a better idea (IE this topic, "Regarding Attempts at Site Destruction" and "To Everyone Who Left in November").

    Also, since the Commission is mainly gathering information and coming up with solutions based on both incidents, it could be amended to include a link to those specific topics as well so that new people would have the full story.
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  • It is a good point that "Rekindling" does carry a connotation that the flame was put out, but my fear is that future Wintreans who weren't around will not understand the gravity of what happened if we are not far more specific with our naming.
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  • It is a good point that "Rekindling" does carry a connotation that the flame was put out, but my fear is that future Wintreans who weren't around will not understand the gravity of what happened if we are not far more specific with our naming.

    Except that's the whole point of the resolution and all of our announcements and the fact that we will have people around in the future who can tell the story. The name of the holiday shouldn't be telling that story. It should be symbolic.
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  • Why should it be symbolic? What guarantee is there that someone will always be around to remember it? Even if someone is, what if people stop asking what it's about? Having an obvious name also leads to obvious questions and the point being much more specific.
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  • Why should it be symbolic? What guarantee is there that someone will always be around to remember it? Even if someone is, what if people stop asking what it's about? Having an obvious name also leads to obvious questions and the point being much more specific.

    The other problem is that I don't know if we can GET more specific without it sounding silly. "The Day when Everyone came together and talked out their grievances from the November Crisis where we still don't know really what they left for etc etc." is way too long. People are going to ask questions anyways because we have a holiday for it. "What's this holiday about?" There's going to be plenty of documentation about these events. In fact, why don't we take the time to record what happened?
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  • "Day of Reconciliation" is specific enough. It immediately leads to the question: "What had to be reconciled?" And we do know why people left.
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  • "Day of Reconciliation" is specific enough. It immediately leads to the question: "What had to be reconciled?"

    You could say the exact same thing about "Day of Rekindling." "What was rekindled" or "What is referred to by the term 'rekindling'"?
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  • It doesn't have the same immediacy.
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  • It doesn't have the same immediacy.
    What do you mean "immediacy"? I feel like while, yeah, "reconciliation" is a bit less ambiguous, to me it sounds insincere and... pompous I guess. Overused.
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  • I personally like Day of Rekindling over Day of Unity, but if we're going down that path I'd like to throw in my previous suggestion of The Awakening or Day of Awakening. :P

    I would be ok with Day of Reconciliation or The Great Reconciliation, though I kinda agree with Katie that the word sounds like a formal and stuffy way to describe what happened. The Great Reconciliation kinda negates that, though.
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  • Lol, how does it sound insincere? I can kinda understand it sounding pompous, but to me the fact that it gets to the point outweighs that.
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  • Lol, how does it sound insincere? I can kinda understand it sounding pompous, but to me the fact that it gets to the point outweighs that.

    Insincere due to how formal and stuffy, as moot said, it is.
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  • LOL, well, in that case, how about Day of Reunion? Gets to the point just as quickly, and doesn't sound as big.

    "Rekindling" and other symbolic stuff sounds just as pompous.
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