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  • Thank you guys for getting this all set up. I guess I can just start to state exactly what Alvaria is:

    Alvaria is one of two successor regions from Aukumnia, and as of typing this it is currently the more well set up, functional, and faster growing regions. Every week we gain roughly 10-20 nations so I guess that's not bad but hey, we are getting there. Currently the Government set up can be found at the Constitution link, with The Red Baron holding the position of President, Pink A.K.A Xad holding Vice President, myself holding Prime Ministry, and Incredible holding Vice Prime Minister. We are always open to people joining our discord and looking around at our community, so feel free to follow the link below. Thanks for having us here guys, I look forward to talking with you guys in the future.

    Discord: https://discord.gg/Swe3UNf

    Constitution: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1278949 (Yes we know it needs some work)
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  • Thanks for the introduction for those who don't know, @Texas. Usually regions don't do that starting out, but now that I think about it it makes good sense to. :P

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  • Well I don't really know what to do here, I'm more used to running Roleplay and being the top executive or being a Legistlative representative, I don't really dip my toes into foreign affairs, but glad you like my take on it so far! I hope that I can get some more of my government into these forums so if any of your citizens are interested in our region as just a place to hang out, or your government wants to talk, we can more easily do that.
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  • Well, sometimes all it takes to do something revolutionary is someone with a fresh perspective. :)

    When it comes to NS, I think the forums depend on when a region evolved. When Wintreath was founded back in 2013, an off-site forum was considered a necessity for a mainstream region...maybe in part because most regions were using IRC or Skype back then, and there was only one chat channel. Now it's less necessary, most newer regions don't have them, and in the last few years I've even encountered people who have never used a forum before, which blows my mind, lol.

    At this point, I would say we mostly use Discord for discussion and the forums for government activity and forum games such as Werewolf or Spyfall. There's been some talk of what to do about our discussion forums on here, but we haven't decided on anything yet.
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  • Cool insight. I personally don't like the idea of forums cause each region will have their own way of doing it, and you'll need your own accounts and yada yada it becomes a mess. That's also why I see the preference to Discord, as you need one account, anyone can do it, and it's a free simple interface to organize. For all the regions I've been with in terms of Foreign Affairs, they either have a separate discord for discussions/ some channel area or they do not really interact with those who they have an embassy with. Seperate discord/channel makes sense, but leaving regions to just have embassies kinda defeats the purpose of a Foreign Affairs Ministry or what you wanna call it.
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  • Notice of Severance of Relations



    Wintreath announces the severance of relations with Alvaria, effective immediately.

    Our region had already been considering closing relations due to the drastic decline in Alvaria’s community over the past several months and resulting inactivity in relations. However, on June 15th, Vice Chancellor MacArthur made a number of derogatory and false claims concerning the LGBTQ+ community, including that they harbor and promote pedophiles, that they’re “full of degenerates”, and that the LGBTQ+ community was attempting to influence high schoolers into “joining the LGBTQ+ community”, ultimately only walking back those comments and stating they only reflect his personal opinions when our own Jarl of Foreign Affairs, who himself is a member of the LGBTQ+ community, confronted him about it. He also said that he was resigning his government position soon, but several days later appears to still be listed and masked as Alvaria’s Vice Chancellor.

    In October 2019, I personally expressed our concerns with potential racism, xenophobia, homophobia, and transphobia surrounding a then-potential merger between Alvaria and Tatenda to then-Founder Red Baron, who guaranteed that intolerance would not be accepted in Alvaria. While I recognize that he is no longer involved in Alvaria, our expectations for partner regions have not changed. Wintreath hosts a large and diverse LGBTQ+ community which I myself am proud to be a part of, and we will not maintain relations with regions that allow government officials to make false, derogatory, and malicious claims against it with impunity. To do so would be incompatible with the principles and ideals of this community.

    Log of the conversation: Here

    Below is an secondary statement by Jarl of Foreign Affairs Pengu, with more details from his perspective as part of that conversation:

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    On June 15th of 2020, Vice Chancellor MacArthur, Alvarian Cincinnatus made some particularly unsettling remarks at the LGBT community despite the region of Alvaria having relations with both LGBT supporting regions, but also regions such as Wintreath who have a wide variety of LGBT members themselves.

    The conversation began with him joking that the LGBT population “promotes,” “harbours,” and “encourages” Pedophiles/Pedophilia.  He then went on to emphasize that he wasn’t kidding about the LGBT community, saying that it was “full of degenerates.”

    After it was noted to him by our Jarl of Foreign Affairs that Alvaria had relations with LGBT oriented regions and that his statements were a quick way to lose relations, he replied saying that it was only his personal opinion and that he was stepping down soon anyways, then made another note saying that his views didn’t represent the Government as a whole.  When it was countered that his views did in fact represent the government since he currently resides as one of its top officials, he respectfully said that he’d just stop talking about it...only to then continue merely a moment later.

    This then turned into a debate where it was clear that he was spouting outdated and incredibly biased info such as obviously fabricated “Pride” posters to prove his point of the “degenerates” that supported the notion of pedophilia, despite members in the chat including the Jarl suggesting that it is something by and far not supported and is in fact heavily condemned by a vast majority of people in the LGBT community.

    It then spiraled from there into talks about how schools are “normalizing” or “at least trying to influence people into becoming gay or trans or something,” going yet again into more rhetoric territory that is almost an outdated and tired cliche such as “showing posters and videos pushing the agenda of the LGBT community,” “directing their media toward kids in highschool attempting to influence people to join the LGBT community” and most importantly “nobody is being bullied or oppressed for being part of LGBT for what ive seen” ignoring the fact that much LGBT violence and even deaths happen when people aren’t watching.

    None of this is okay in the slightest as these are statements and beliefs that can be damaging to LGBT individuals.  The fact that it came from a government official was appalling to say the least, and the fact that one of the members even stated “ Our government doesn’t seem to care what they say lately” as a the response to when the Vice Chancellor was first asked to be careful on what he said is extremely telling that this isn’t an uncommon occurrence in the slightest.

    Therefore, Wintreath simply cannot continue relations with Alvaria when it is apparent that there are those within its higher ranks that feel as if they can freely express anti-LGBT remarks while others in those ranks allow it to happen.  It clashes with our values and promotes a toxic and hostile environment towards the LGBT community, and is not something that Wintreath can support as a region that not only supports/embraces but is also home to many unique and wonderful LGBT individuals.
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