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I mean, that's the name of the game -- nobody's above suspicion, and Syraj is the one I find most likely to be a werewolf. After he's dealt with, we'll need to find the final one, and that'll mean rereading all the little slip ups on everyone else.

And Doc's death didn't come out of nowhere -- it was coming for a long time. So saving another werewolf on the way out does seem like something he might do.

@Pengu, I'm not sure if it's been addressed yet, but does Merin form part of the win condition for the Jolli?

Because if it does, I think I may have underestimated the situation we're in. If we fuck up today, and we lynch an innocent, we're down to 4:3. We have no defense against a kill during the night, so functionally, if we don't eliminate another Jolli today, we still lose.

Everyone had better consider their vote carefully. The wolves are going to come out in full force to lynch someone - anyone - innocent, so we're likely to see them pile up now in a final push, with victory so close at hand. This is something I've seen Sapph do before, as a Wolf.

I am fairly set on Gerrick as the ringleader right now. No matter which way we slice it, it just doesn't make much sense to target Syraj, because if Doc was helping him, I just don't think he would have allowed him to make these slip-ups to begin with.

My case against Doc was incredibly weak most of the time, especially at the point Gerrick is referring to now, so there was no point to divert attention off Syraj that would likely have stuck with him all the way to the end of the game, anyway.

This is a typical Wolf play, and I sincerely hope we don't fall for it.

I also urge everyone to actually pick a side, and not to leave it up to chance by making it tied between anyone. If we pick the wrong one, then so be it, we lose and the Wolves get a well-deserved win, but I'm going to ask everyone to judge the situation carefully before they cast their vote.

And yes, I also realise that this is a Werewolf game, and me saying all of these things can also look suspiciously like a final Wolf play, but I'm beyond subtlety right now, because we are done for if we don't make the right move now. The Wolves have less to lose than we do.

I am siding with Laurentus because I do not like being scapegoated. I am  suspicious at Sapphiron, as she (with or without reason) as consistently voted against me.
I would vote gor Sapphiron, but it would lead to nothing exept probably my death. So I will Vote: Gerrick

This is the problem you see, you could always say “I am voting against Gerrick  because I have no interest to be lynched” since self-defence is a legitimate argument. But instead, you start leaning onto the terminology of others, calling yourself “scapegoated” which is a theory Laurentus surfaced just a while ago when you are blatantly exposing signs of a Wolf.

This is something I've seen Sapph do before, as a Wolf.

Nice deflection there. I also recall when I made my argument as a Seer, even offering to sacrifice myself if Lumenland turns out a Wolf, no one believed me and the villagers subsequently lost. And you were a Wolf.

My instincts still tell me you are innocent, but if this is really a grand theatrical performance where you lynched Doc to safeguard the Wolves’ victory, seeing the bandwagon is building up under your leadership, then really well played.

^Correction, I wasn’t a Seer, I was perceived to be a Seer, I was just a normal villager making deductions

Thanks.

I understand how you, most of all, would feel conflicted about this. I didn't make that statement about you to raise your own suspiciousness level (although again, I can never rest easy when you are still alive and not definitively on my team), but simply to state a fact that this is something I have seen Wolves do.

At this point, I wouldn't trust myself if I was anyone else, because after all, I have sacrificed one of my fellow wolves, very early on, in a game where you yourself were the Seer. Which, again, makes me understand how you would be extra apprehensive.

In this case, though, I would like to point out that there are 3 wolves, and that they would have had to concede to me pulling off such a bonkers strategy and sustaining it for this long. Doc and I would have been able to comfortably ignore each other for quite a few rounds, without suspicion, and we would already have won through our numbers advantage if we hadn't adopted this strategy, in all likelihood. There is also the problem that of all the potential Wolves, I am by far the most suspicious and likely to get scanned as a default, so really, if we did decide to throw a Wolf under the bus, I would have been the logical choice to get rid of, as I would have been an immediate liability for my team.

The Seer is still in play, and they would have said something a long time ago if they had scanned me and found out I was a Wolf. I haven't given them any shortage of evidence to use against me, either, so it would have been done in a cinch.

@Pengu, I'm not sure if it's been addressed yet, but does Merin form part of the win condition for the Jolli?

but as he's not completely "bad", he does not need to die for the Joieux to win.

That's a no.  As he's not completely "bad" and doesn't need to die for the Joieux to win, he doesn't actually add to their numbers, either.  Nor does he know who they are...just in case you're wondering.

His actions (such as scenario choices and voting with the Jolli if he figures them out), however, may sway more toward helping the Jolli since his winning is now tied to them winning...rather than sharing the win with the winning team regardless of who that team is.

Unless he goes completely "bad," he's still considered a neutral character with just a bit more pull toward the bad guys.

It certainly seems Gerrick and Sapph are desperate to get Syraj lynched. Maybe they're teammates? Maybe they're the last two wolves? Who knows. I think I'm gonna Vote: Gerrick on this one.

Oh ho ho, once again no one believes me

Hmm. Should I not be around during the next round, make sure not to trust Sapph too much, but don't be too quick to lynch him, either. Carefully consider all your options.

Right at this moment, I do believe Gerrick is a Wolf, but I'm not completely sold on Sapph yet. Still, out of everyone, he is probably more suspicious, and would definitely be able to play the type of game that we've seen here, so far.

Once more reminding @Hydra and @taulover to vote.

So let me get this straight: I'm a werewolf because I'm too "cooperative" and... you're just not sure about Syraj despite the stronger evidence I've given?

I find it strange how Laurentus was so suspicious of Doc's vote for North on Day 2 but not Syraj's (when the two of them were themselves on the chopping block until Syraj made the deciding vote to kill North, a resistance fighter).

I'd encourage everyone to quickly reread the thread and see who looks more suspicious: Syraj or me? Syraj has just given short, vague answers and reasoning for his votes. It seems to me that he has tried to fly under the radar for the most part until he was found out.

Also @Hydra and @taulover don't forget to vote. I'm going to strongly encourage you to trust me on this one. We're at the point where every death and every vote can be the deciding factor for the game. Just because Laurentus got one werewolf killed does not mean that every vote he makes is correct, especially one with as flimsy of a case against me.

@Red Mones and @Fortis Scriptor , you may still change your votes to Syraj. And if you're still not convinced either way, you may still vote to make Syraj and myself equal and thus just put it up to chance. Trust me, you won't regret Syraj dying.

And I'm going to urge the exact opposite.

You've trusted me so far. Trust me again, just as Gerrick is urging you to do for him. My reasoning for Doc was just as weak, but I went to extraordinary lengths to try and make you all vote for him.

I'll remind you that this is Gerrick we are dealing with. There will never be great evidence against a player as skilled as him, and there will always be someone who made rookie mistakes for him to shift blame to.

We are almost there. We just need to make that final push.

There's a Seer in play right? @Pengu

Pengu will never answer a question like that directly. Our Seer is still alive, though.