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I feel so dead at the moment  .

What I'm seeing from Syraj is far more inexperience (and yes, fatally flawed reasoning) than suspiciousness.

The good thing is we have a bit of room to fuck up again, even with Merin having changed sides, as Pengu stated Merin does not have to be lynched for us to win.

I don’t get how you can consider “fatally flawed reasoning” as inexperience though. My experience in the other round with Lumenland made me particularly weary of any attempts to dismiss such as mere “beginner’s mistake”.

I stick to my Vote: Syraj

Fair enough. In this case, however, we've already seen Syraj make simple beginner's mistakes in the previous game, too. A mistake that got him lynched. In the first round. As a defender.

It is not outside his character at this very moment, because again, he has no real experience with this yet.

I had actually considered whether this insistence to lynch Syraj might be a late play by the Wolves, but it is clear now that at least 4 of you are going to remain suspicious of him, so you can't all be Wolves.

I get it. Usually, all we have to go on is any sort of mistake the Wolves might make. The Wolves in this game have made very few mistakes, though. I had to bait Doc and take a gamble by making myself look a lot more suspicious after my own mistake, so I could finally have something to convince more of you that he might be a Wolf, too, by virtue of his own lack of commitment to lynch me, after he had previously said he would.

Whoever these Wolves are, I'm not sure they are going to allow each other to make such rookie mistakes.

I can see how you might remain unconvinced, Sapph, because Lumenland was in my team during the incident we're discussing now, after all, and we weren't able to get her not to make those types of mistakes, but there is a fundamental difference between Syraj and Lumenland's characters. Syraj actually listens.

Whoever the Wolves are have thus far remained hidden by extraordinary play. I'm not sure our usual strategies are going to cut it.

Of everyone present, the people I believe would stand the best chance of playing such an extraordinary game as a Wolf would be Gerrick, you, me and Tau.

I'm going for Gerrick, because he has behaved the most out of character in the previous round by being so looselipped, and I can't shake the feeling that he's trying to manipulate us into voting for a great scapegoat like Syraj.

I will again point out that it would not have been in Syraj's interest to pile onto Doc, because had he voted for me, he might have been able to save a fellow Wolf, and could have easily dismissed the suspicions afterwards by saying that he was merely voting for two suspicious candidates.

I'll support your notion Lau, I vote to Lynch Gerrick.

I am siding with Laurentus because I do not like being scapegoated. I am  suspicious at Sapphiron, as she (with or without reason) as consistently voted against me.
I would vote gor Sapphiron, but it would lead to nothing exept probably my death. So I will Vote: Gerrick

*He. Sapphiron is a guy. Must say I made the same mistake, at first.

Sorry!

I mean, you can go back through the previous games and see that I also am cooperative in some games. And those games are usually when I'm not a werewolf. I play close to the chest in games where I have something to hide in the games (when I'm a power role), which just happens to be most games.

But it seems that I, like Syraj, have no choice in my vote today. And my suspicion of Syraj has not waned since my last post anyway.

Vote: Syraj

Care to address the point about how problematic it would have been for Syraj to vote for a fellow Wolf?

Much as expected, you go right back to targeting Syraj again. True, it is now a matter of survival, but the comment about him still being suspicious is amusing.

I think the werewolves knew Doc was going down, so they sacrificed him so that the others would look more innocent. Since Syraj didn't vote for you (to make it 50/50), he put the nail in Doc's coffin, thinking it'd make him look less suspicious, rather than having the 50/50 chance to not save him anyway. And although Syraj may be inexperienced, if he is a werewolf then he had Doc to help guide him (as well as whomever the other werewolf is).

That's just the thing, with the mistakes he's made, it doesn't look like he's had experienced help at all, so far.

I mean, he's certainly made slip ups, but on something that big, I'm sure Doc would've chimed in.

Besides, reread from here and see how Doc swoops in to cover Syraj's mistake by drawing attention away to himself.

Intriguing point, but I highly doubt that Doc would sacrifice himself to save someone as inexperienced as Syraj.

I have no doubt you will continually find intriguing arguments to draw attention away from yourself and place suspicion on Syraj, but I'm not going to buy it. I know exactly what you're capable of. You'll always find some way to counter my arguments.