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And Chanku, please, stop commenting on your personal opinion about your own Commendation. The perception is absolutely terrible.

The personal opinion of the person getting recognized doesn't matter?

Not when they are the Speaker of the Entity intent on giving them the honor they have an opinion about. The optics on saying that a specific title, something no one has ever received ever from the Storting, is not to your liking is incredibly bad, in my opinion. Some people might see it as Chanku saying that the title is not good enough for him. Thats why I was hoping Chanku would stay out of this entirely, so that we could avoid that perception.

Having Chanku stay out of this entirely probably became unrealistic when it became a week-long spectacle where he was put down, had his accomplishments questioned, and been tarred with incidents from years ago when he was much younger. I'm sure that hasn't been the Underhusen's intention in this debate, but that's how I would certainly feel in his shoes, and I know I wouldn't keep quiet...and with all due respect, I don't think you or anyone else would either. It's unprecedented for a nominee of any honor in the region to have to go through something like this...hell, it's unprecedented for anyone in the region besides maybe Govindia to have to go through this. Given the circumstances, I think his restraint has been admirable.

I will note that I do intend to elaborate upon the reason for disliking it. The initial post was intended to allow my own issues to be noted, to prevent this from moving to a vote before I could raise my concerns, as I was about to head to work when I lodged it. While that post could have been written better, I was on my way to work when typing that so I didn't have much time to spend on it.

I second North's motion to extend debate.


Also to answer North's question, I would vote Aye. I don't have a problem with the original title and I don't really have a problem with the other proposed titles. I'm decidedly neutral on this.

Motion to Extend Debate passed, debate is now extended for forty-eight hours.

Well, we are at an impasse. We do not have enough votes to pass this act with Champion Of The Just as the title. Syraj and Laurentus have stated their intention to vote nay and if Chanku does not abstain from the vote on this matter, I will vote nay on principle. However, alternatives suggested are also insufficient. So we are at an impasse.

How about 'Champion Of Justice'? And if not, what do we all suggest?

And not sure I agree that this process is unprecedented. In my experience the process to get Reon a Commendation was far longer than this and more contentious.

verity
/ˈvɛrɪti/
noun
noun: verity; plural noun: verities
a true principle or belief, especially one of fundamental importance.
"the eternal verities"
truth.
"irrefutable, objective verity"

So how about Champion of Verity?

EDIT: Actually, why not Champion of the Principled?

I like both (and prefer verity). What about anyone else?

Well, we are at an impasse. We do not have enough votes to pass this act with Champion Of The Just as the title. Syraj and Laurentus have stated their intention to vote nay and if Chanku does not abstain from the vote on this matter, I will vote nay on principle. However, alternatives suggested are also insufficient. So we are at an impasse.

How about 'Champion Of Justice'? And if not, what do we all suggest?

And not sure I agree that this process is unprecedented. In my experience the process to get Reon a Commendation was far longer than this and more contentious.

I intend to vote abstain.

I think verity applies to Chanku the best, as he has shown unwavering belief in the Underhusen as an institution.

Title
1) This act shall be cited as the Chanku Recognitions Act.

Recognitions
2) The Storting recognizes that Chanku was the first Citizen to make Wintreath his original home, and that he has since been a prominent member of Wintreath's forum and IRC/Discord community, where he has contributed to Wintreath's special and freewheeling culture.

3) The Storting recognizes that Chanku has been an instrumental driver of Wintrean parliamentary and legal culture, particularly through his unparalleled belief in and devotion to the Underhusen as an institution, through such accomplishments as:
a) Having ran as a candidate for Underhusen in every election since the Storting was established, currently a span lasting over five years and growing.
b) Having been elected to 11 Underhusen sessions, where the Underhusen placed its faith in him by selecting him as its Speaker for 6 of those sessions and its Speaker Pro Tempore for another 2 of those sessions.
c) Having represented the Monarchy in parliamentary matters for an additional session as Chairman of the Overhusen.
d) Having authored, co-authored, or influenced a number of acts that have passed into law, including the Citizenship and Demonym Act, the Code of Criminal Laws, the Default Seats of the Underhusen Act, and the Procedural Rules Speaker and Officers Amendment.
e) Having tested the region's legal system by bringing its first and currently only lawsuit.

4) The Storting recognizes that Chanku has also served in many other government roles, including Jarl of Foreign Affairs and Regional Gameplay Advisor. Additionally, he was involved in our regional military, the Hvitt Riddiral, through most of its entire existence, from being a trainee in its first operations to serving as Jarl of Defense for over a year.

5) The Storting recognizes Chanku as a stalwart defender of the region, its community, its principles, and its Monarch in cases where it has been the target of untruths and slander, particularly during:
a) The events of July 2015, when several prominent Citizens announced their intent to overthrow the Monarchy. His defense led him to being inappropriately banned by one of the Citizens involved who was also a chat op.
b) The events of March 2018, when The Versutian Federation closed relations with Wintreath for reasons based on incorrect facts collected through poor research on their part. His actions, along with those of others, resulted in a restoration of relations.
c) The events of May-July 2018 during the Lazarus Constitutional Convention, where he often sacrificed his own personal standing among the powers that be in that region in fighting untruths leveled against the region and its Monarch. His actions in part inspired a renewed regional focus on foreign affairs, which included his own appointment as Regional Gameplay Advisor.

Commendation
6) Recognizing these feats as fact, the Storting hereby awards Chanku the Commendation of Wintreath.

Entitlement
7) Recognizing the lengths Chanku has gone to in order to defend the region and its honor, the Storting additionally grants him the Honorific Title of "The Champion Of Verity".

How's this?

I love it. I'd vote aye for this one.

Yup, this one I can vote aye on with a clear conscience.