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(Discussion) The Grammar Corrections Resolution
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taulover
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  • In honor of our first resolution, I praise the Holy Potatoe prior to presenting what may become our third.

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    1. The resolution shall be cited as the Grammar Corrections Resolution.

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    2. The 24th Underhusen, understanding that grammar conventions are vital to clear communication, particularly in interpretation of regional law, and acknowledging the heightened professionalism and credibility to be gained from consistent grammar, hereby:
    (a) Recognizes Skrifa Mathyland for his efforts in correcting Wintrean law in his Grammar Check of Wintreath and numerous correctional amendments,
    (b) Strongly encourages the Monarch and Overhusen to make correctional amendments to Royal Decrees and Overhusen Procedure, respectively, as outlined in the Grammar Check of Wintreath, and
    (c) Urges all Citizens, especially Skrifa and other government officials, to remain vigilant in identifying and correcting grammatical and typographical errors in both existing law and proposed bills.
    Thoughts?

    @Mathyland (feel free to make any and all corrections, including tearing apart my comma usage)
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  • Id take out C. Seems a bit...big brotherish.
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    Laurentus
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  • I like it the way it is. All this really does is declare the UH position on the matter. It doesn't force anything. Although it is a bit weird to see a type of commendation in a piece like this.

    Why not simply commend Mathy. He seems to have made the UH a more active, professional space all on his own. I've heard of worse reasons to commend someone.
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  • I like it the way it is. All this really does is declare the UH position on the matter. It doesn't force anything. Although it is a bit weird to see a type of commendation in a piece like this.

    Why not simply commend Mathy. He seems to have made the UH a more active, professional space all on his own. I've heard of worse reasons to commend someone.
    We could award Mathy a Commendation, sure, but that'd be a separate law. Really, the main part I want to get through is (b), though still thought the other two would be quite nice to include in.
    Id take out C. Seems a bit...big brotherish.
    Hmm, I kinda see that now you point it out. Perhaps we could change the wording to be less urgent?
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  • I really like C the way it is. It's powerful, and shows our dedication to the topic, without actually forcing anyone to do anything.
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  • In honor of our first resolution, I praise the Holy Potatoe prior to presenting what may become our third.

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    1. This resolution shall be cited as the Grammar Corrections Resolution.

    Resolution
    2. The 24th Underhusen, understanding that grammar conventions are vital to clear communication, particularly in the interpretation of regional law, and acknowledging the heightened professionalism and credibility to be gained from consistent grammar, hereby:
    (a) Recognizes Skrifa Mathyland for his efforts in correcting Wintrean law in his Grammar Check of Wintreath and numerous correctional amendments,
    (b) Strongly encourages the Monarch and Overhusen to make correctional amendments to Royal Decrees and Overhusen Procedure, respectively, as outlined in the Grammar Check of Wintreath, and
    (c) Urges all Citizens, especially Skrifa and other government officials, to remain vigilant in identifying and correcting grammatical and typographical errors in both existing law and proposed bills.
    Thoughts?

    @Mathyland (feel free to make any and all corrections, including tearing apart my comma usage)
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    I've highlighted changes I think need to be made in red. I think it sounds better with the "the" I added, but I guess it's not required. Your comma usage is fine, as this is a law. It would be weird to have this as just one really long sentence, but this is different.

    I like C as it is, as well.
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  • It just seems like C is step one for creating the Grammer Nazis of Wintreath. If it needs to stay in coukd we tone it down?
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  • It just seems like C is step one for creating the Grammer Nazis of Wintreath. If it needs to stay in coukd we tone it down?
    My intent was basically just "keep writing laws with good grammar and making sure there aren't any grammar errors in existing laws." Will try to make some wording changes when I get home.
    In honor of our first resolution, I praise the Holy Potatoe prior to presenting what may become our third.

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    1. This resolution shall be cited as the Grammar Corrections Resolution.

    Resolution
    2. The 24th Underhusen, understanding that grammar conventions are vital to clear communication, particularly in the interpretation of regional law, and acknowledging the heightened professionalism and credibility to be gained from consistent grammar, hereby:
    (a) Recognizes Skrifa Mathyland for his efforts in correcting Wintrean law in his Grammar Check of Wintreath and numerous correctional amendments,
    (b) Strongly encourages the Monarch and Overhusen to make correctional amendments to Royal Decrees and Overhusen Procedure, respectively, as outlined in the Grammar Check of Wintreath, and
    (c) Urges all Citizens, especially Skrifa and other government officials, to remain vigilant in identifying and correcting grammatical and typographical errors in both existing law and proposed bills.
    Thoughts?

    @Mathyland (feel free to make any and all corrections, including tearing apart my comma usage)
    @Pengu
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    I've highlighted changes I think need to be made in red. I think it sounds better with the "the" I added, but I guess it's not required. Your comma usage is fine, as this is a law. It would be weird to have this as just one really long sentence, but this is different.

    I like C as it is, as well.
    Sounds good, will also make these edits later.
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  • It just seems like C is step one for creating the Grammer Nazis of Wintreath. If it needs to stay in coukd we tone it down?
    Ooh, that sounds like a great political party name! I'll have to clarify that I'm running for the Grammar Nazis of Wintreath Party next time UH elections come around. :P

    Also, you misspelled "grammar" and "could." I would add a comma after "in."

    In all seriousness, I see now where you're coming from that it's a little extreme. I'm not sure how, exactly, to tone it down a little, but that wouldn't be a bad idea.
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  • Yes, the Grammar Nazis, platform includes correct spelling and ANNEXING THE SUDETENLAND!
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  • Where do you plan on putting this law? Do you plan on it being a Statutory Law?
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    1. This resolution shall be cited as the Grammar Corrections Resolution.

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    2. The 24th Underhusen, understanding that grammar conventions are vital to clear communication, particularly in the interpretation of regional law, and acknowledging the heightened professionalism and credibility to be gained from consistent grammar, hereby:
    (a) Recognizes Skrifa Mathyland for his efforts in correcting Wintrean law in his Grammar Check of Wintreath and numerous correctional amendments,
    (b) Strongly encourages the Monarch and Overhusen to make correctional amendments to Royal Decrees and Overhusen Procedure, respectively, as outlined in the Grammar Check of Wintreath, and
    (c) Advises the Citizenry, especially Skrifa and other government officials, to continue identifying and correcting grammatical and typographical errors in both existing law and proposed bills.
    Changes:

    1. Implemented Mathy's suggestions
    2. Replaced "Urges" with "Advises"
    3. Replaced "all Citizens" with "Citizenry"
    4. Replaced "remain vigilant in" with "continue"

    Thoughts? We can keep all, some, or none of these changes, and/or make more changes.

    Where do you plan on putting this law? Do you plan on it being a Statutory Law?
    No, it's a non-binding resolution, much like the Righteous Potatoe Resolution or the Statement of the Underhusen on the Events in Lazarus. (And until Wintermoot makes a section for those on the Laws page, it'll go under Underhusen Procedure.) Hence why, as Laurentus said, the strong powerful language may not actually be much of an issue, since the resolution doesn't actually do anything except make strongly-worded suggestions.

    Edit: wait no not "strong language" that means profanity :P

    Also, to address Mathy's corrections in more detail:
    I've highlighted changes I think need to be made in red. I think it sounds better with the "the" I added, but I guess it's not required. Your comma usage is fine, as this is a law. It would be weird to have this as just one really long sentence, but this is different.
    I'm ambivalent on the "the", but I'll put it in there because why not. I was more thinking about my use of commas (or lack thereof, depending on the situation) to separate phrases/clauses. In this instance, though, the commas at the end of each clause (legal clause, not grammatical :D) should arguably be replaced with semicolons, but I've used commas to be more in line with existing Wintrean law.
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  • Can we change 'Advises' in C to 'Respectfully Requests' ?
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  • Can we change 'Advises' in C to 'Respectfully Requests' ?
    I want to hear the opinion of the other Skrifa first. After all, they might even prefer switching back to the earlier wording.
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    Laurentus
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  • Can we change 'Advises' in C to 'Respectfully Requests' ?
    I want to hear the opinion of the other Skrifa first. After all, they might even prefer switching back to the earlier wording.
    Like me. I much prefer the earlier wording. I'm sad to see it being watered down to the extent it already has been.
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