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Well put, Gov. Alas, to little to late. I want you to get better and I want you to stay, which is why I support the Revocation. Then, once we know that you've improved we can let you back in. I'm sorry that it came to this but I honestly believe that this will help you. Whatever happens, Gov, good luck and Godspeed.

Wanting me to get better and stay means you're against the Revocation, not for it?  That sounds very contradictory :-/

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I'm hoping this will cause you to reevaluate your attitude. This is why I opposed PnG. Because I still think that you can be saved.

Then I hope you can oppose the Revocation too.  I still wish to stay in the region and contribute as a fellow citizen.

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Tatte has echoed my thoughts well, minus the personal nature of his dispute.

Also, Gov, a revocation doesn't completely remove your access to the forum. A PnG declaration does that.

Tatte has echoed my thoughts well, minus the personal nature of his dispute.

Also, Gov, a revocation doesn't completely remove your access to the forum. A PnG declaration does that.

I still want to be involved as a citizen, not just have access :-/

I have been sincere in my statement, apologised sincerely, and sincerely regretted my actions.

I only hope that the Storting sees this and considers my statement in response to everyone else, and vote against revocation.

I am extremely, deeply, sorry to everyone in this region.

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While I am deeply sorry it's come to this, I still support a revocation.

That doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the effort you put into your response. I hope you are sincere, whatever may happen from this point forward.

While I am deeply sorry it's come to this, I still support a revocation.

That doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the effort you put into your response. I hope you are sincere, whatever may happen from this point forward.

Laurentus I urge you and others to seriously reconsider and give this some thought.

That is all.

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I'm afraid I wouldn't even have considered approaching the Storting with this had I not thought it through, Gov.

I'm afraid I wouldn't even have considered approaching the Storting with this had I not thought it through, Gov.

I mean even after reading the statement

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I hope I'm not going to sound cold when I say this, but while it was a much more well thought-out response than we're used to from you, I just can't be convinced at this point that we won't be in the same situation a week, month or year from now, with different names being at the forefront, but otherwise similar circumstances. You've been given countless opportunities, and you've genuinely made an effort with me after the previous revocation attempt to change, and yet we still ended up in the same place. The people adamant that a revocation is not enough have reasons for feeling the way they do. Across so many regions, after so many years, I'm afraid it can't continue on like this.

I do hope you'll make a sincere effort with finding real-life help, as you can only benefit from that, but at this point I'll always remain doubtful.

Just going to point out here that the citizenship revocation may not be permanent, considering how the Monarch has the authority to reinstate the individual afterwards. Based on the manner the Underhusen is treating this issue, I highly believe it is purely symbolic, a punishment that stands out above mere infractions.

I appreciate all your comments, and especially the apologies, Gov.  Thank you for being mature enough to admit that your actions were wrong and that you recognize the damage you've done to several people here.  Also, we all have real lives that are much more important than whatever goes on here.  I wish you the best with your family and I hope your mother can rest in paradise.  Above all, sometimes just a simple apology and a recognition of wrongdoing is enough to restore someone's feelings and right a wrong.  Sadly, I don't think this is one of those cases.  In fact, in light of your statement, I am now more certain that a revocation is the correct route.

You said you were planning on taking a hiatus from the region anyway.  I'm not going to shy away from this - there are several people in the community who can't wait to see you gone for a while, no matter what the reason.  I am not one of those people, I just want to point that out.  However, the fact that you are leaving the region for a while does not mean that you should expect leniency in light of your transgressions.  Gov, I believe the best thing for you to do now is to take time away from this region, conscious of the fact that you have caused enough harm (intentionally or unintentionally, maliciously or otherwise) to lead to this discussion on revocation.  I think you should focus on your family and your self, for as long as you need.  Then, I think you should reflect on how your actions have impacted those here, how we were unable to help you, how we were so distraught that several of us have experienced deep personal pain because of these events connected to you.  Then, once you are at peace with yourself and your family, and once you have taken a deep introspective look at yourself and your role in this community, you should make the decision whether or not you should return, and under what circumstances. 

I am not telling you what to do - I have no authority to tell another grown man how to live his life.  You can call me what you will, you may disregard everything you read here, but I hope you recognize that everything that happens here is for your own good.  Your relationship with Wintreath and the people within it has become toxic, and it is damaging everyone who is at least peripherally connected to you.  You need to take the time to realize why this is, and I hope this revocation (attempt) serves as a reminder of the damage that has been caused here, and that it motivates you to make positive change in your life outside of Wintreath. 

I urge the OH members to please consider my statement carefully, and to vote against revocation.  I want to be able to peacefully go into hiatus without worrying.    I also would appreciate it if @Daylen Phoenix stops with the repeated dislike of every single post.  It is a bit unfair and unwarranted when I have done my best to be honest and sincere here

I could well ask you to stop disliking posts for the same reason, Gov.

@Laurentus, I did not go and dislike every single post, including my statement.  I am doing my best to be as civil here as possible.

That aside, if the Overhusen have any questions or concerns they wish me to address, I am willing to address them.

You dislike my posts because you disagree with them, regardless of how sincere I am when I make them. Daylen is merely doing the same.

You dislike my posts because you disagree with them, regardless of how sincere I am when I make them. Daylen is merely doing the same.

Daylen is disliking them because I am posting, not because of the content.

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