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  • :wave: I don't really know what you're all talking about, and that's a lot of stuff to read, and I don't really feel like doing that right now, so I'll just talk about something like math:

    0.999... = 1

    I know some people may disagree immediately, but there are many proofs out there that prove this, one of which is as follows:

    x = 0.999...
    10x = 9.999...
    9x = 9.999... - x
    9x = 9 (since x = 0.999... you can substitute 0.999... for x)
    x = 1

    And since x = 0.999... and x = 1, 0.999... = 1.

    I think I'll go more in depth about this in a thread in the Hall of Great Discussions. If I make a thread there talking about this, I'll add the link in here:
    That isn't even, like, close to some of the cooler things in math. If I remember correctly, I actually learned this in a formal classroom setting in 9th grade algebra 2.
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  • I know. I could have talked about something like how 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12. Or anything Numberphile usually talks about. I just wanted to talk about this specifically because I've heard much dispute about whether it's true or not that 0.999... = 1. I can't convince my own father no matter how hard I try. I think one of my math teachers from an earlier grade disagreed with me, and it frustrated me.
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  • I know. I could have talked about something like how 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12. Or anything Numberphile usually talks about. I just wanted to talk about this specifically because I've heard much dispute about whether it's true or not that 0.999... = 1. I can't convince my own father no matter how hard I try. I think one of my math teachers from an earlier grade disagreed with me, and it frustrated me.
    I hope you realize that 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12 only works for a certain generalization of a convergent series, and that Numberphile's video was incredibly nonrigorous.

    Edit: spelling
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  • I know. I could have talked about something like how 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12. Or anything Numberphile usually talks about. I just wanted to talk about this specifically because I've heard much dispute about whether it's true or not that 0.999... = 1. I can't convince my own father no matter how hard I try. I think one of my math teachers from an earlier grade disagreed with me, and it frustrated me.
    I hope you realize that 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12 only works for a certain generalization of a convergent series, and that Numberphile's video was incredibly nonrigorous.

    Edit: spelling
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes
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  • I know. I could have talked about something like how 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12. Or anything Numberphile usually talks about. I just wanted to talk about this specifically because I've heard much dispute about whether it's true or not that 0.999... = 1. I can't convince my own father no matter how hard I try. I think one of my math teachers from an earlier grade disagreed with me, and it frustrated me.
    I hope you realize that 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12 only works for a certain generalization of a convergent series, and that Numberphile's video was incredibly nonrigorous.

    Edit: spelling
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes

    Can confirm. Am Philosophy Major.


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  • I found this the other day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture

    I heard about it awhile ago, but I hadn't spent much time looking at it before.
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  • I found this the other day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture

    I heard about it awhile ago, but I hadn't spent much time looking at it before.
    ... And THAT is why, ladies and gentleman, I am not a mathematics major :P
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  • I know. I could have talked about something like how 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12. Or anything Numberphile usually talks about. I just wanted to talk about this specifically because I've heard much dispute about whether it's true or not that 0.999... = 1. I can't convince my own father no matter how hard I try. I think one of my math teachers from an earlier grade disagreed with me, and it frustrated me.
    I hope you realize that 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12 only works for a certain generalization of a convergent series, and that Numberphile's video was incredibly nonrigorous.

    Edit: spelling
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes
    Largely unrelated... the 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12 is a result of plugging -1 into the Riemann zeta function, which is

    But only when the s>1. To get the -1/12, you have to extend past that, which means that it isn't really 1+2+3+4+..., but something else.

    Numberphile actually discusses it here (their original -1/12 video seems to be intentionally trollish):
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    Umm... yeah, I think so. I think that's a question that's better for @taulover
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    I know some people do that intentionally, to avoid annoying people by pinging them so much.
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    Umm... yeah, I think so. I think that's a question that's better for @taulover
    http://lesswrong.com/lw/on/reductionism/

    Yudkowsky's thoughts here are similar to my own.
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    Brother in the Noble Augustus Family,
    Elder of the Noble Leviatus Family,
    Elder of the Noble Azach Syndicate,
    Son of the Royal Stuart-Danneborg Family,
    Count of Athinda & Prince of the Blood,
    Imperial Temple God of Madness,
    Madly Mad with Madness,
    Eligible Bachelor,
    Blessed Father and Protector of the Clindean Brotherhood

    :: Past Notable Positions ::

    - First Archemperor of Markarth
    - Former Minister of the Interior of Exshaw
    - Former Chancellor of The United States of Europe
    - Former CEO and Delegate of The Genesis Corporation
    - Duke of the Imperial City
    - Father of Athos
    - Imperator of the Clindean Commonwealth

    Note: not all positions listed



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  • Nice, thanks for sharing!
    I enjoyed the series in general (which is part of a larger set of blog posts by Yudkowsky called the Sequences).
    Résumé
    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 8 April 2015 - present
    From the Ashes RP Game Master: 29 November 2015 - 24 July 2018
    Skydande Vakt Marshal: 29 November 2015 - 28 February 2017
    Skrifa of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    RP Guild Councillor: 9 February 2016 - 6 March 2018
    Ambassador to Lovely: 23 February 2016 - 17 August 2016
    Werewolf VII co-host: 11 May 2016 - 5 June 2016
    Skrifa of the 18th Underhusen: 8 October 2016 - 7 December 2016
    Ambassador to Balder: 1 December 2016 - 1 March 2022
    Skrifa of the 19th Underhusen: 7 December 2016 - 9 February 2017
    Ambassador to the INWU: 11 March 2017 - 1 March 2022
    Ambassador to the Versutian Federation: 18 August 2017 - 22 March 2018
    Thane of Integration: 29 September 2017 - 7 March 2018
    Speaker of the 24th Underhusen: 10 October 2017 - 7 December 2017
    October 2017 Wintreath's Finest: 4 November 2017
    Speaker pro tempore of the 25th Underhusen: 9 December 2017 - 7 February 2018
    Wintreath's Finest of 2017: 6 January 2018
    Werewolf XIV host: 20 January 2018 - 23 February 2018
    February 2018 Wintreath's Finest: 5 March 2018
    Thane of Embassy Dispatches / Foreign Releases and Information / Foreign Dispatches: 7 March 2018 - 15 March 2020
    Speaker of the 28th Underhusen: 10 June 2018 - 7 August 2018
    Second Patriarch of the Noble House of Valeria: 10 October 2018 - present
    Arena Game 6 Host: 28 December 2018 - 9 March 2019
    Librarian of the Underhusen: 29 January 2019 - 12 February 2019
    Speaker of the 32nd Underhusen: 12 February 2019 - 8 April 2019
    March 2019 Wintreath's Finest: 4 April 2019
    Librarian of the Underhusen: 12 April 2019 - 23 October 2020
    Commendation of Wintreath: 24 September 2020
    Peer of the Overhusen: 9 December 2020 - 8 February 2021
    Vice Chancellor of the Landsraad: 26 May 2021 - 15 September 2022
    Arena Game 8 Host: 10 June 2021 - 19 July 2021
    June 2021 Wintreath's Finest: 5 July 2021
    Regional Stability Squad: 28 February 2023 - present
    Minecraft Server Admin: 8 March 2023 - present

    Aura Hyperia/New Hyperion:
    Plebeian: 16 April 2014 - 21 July 2014
    Patrician: 21 July 2014 - present
    Adeptus Mechanicus: 24 October 2014 - 16 November 2014
    Co-founder of New Hyperion: 29 October 2014 - present
    Lord of Propaganda: 16 November 2014 - present
    Mapmaker for Official Region RP: 27 November 2015 - present
    WACom Delegate: 11 November 2017 - present
    Other positions: Hyperian Guardsman, Hyperian Marine (Rank: Scout)
    taulover
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    Raxus
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  • Nice, thanks for sharing!
    I enjoyed the series in general (which is part of a larger set of blog posts by Yudkowsky called the Sequences).

    Link saved. Thanks for that. I'll definitely get around to those once the holidays start. I appreciate it!


    His Imperial Madness

    Names, Titles, and Positions
    :: Royal Name ::

    His Imperial Madness, Archemperor Raxus Caedus-Turn-Leviatus-Azach-Augustus-Danneborg I

    :: Royal Titles ::

    Patriarch of the Royal Caedus Family,
    Patriarch of the Caedus-Turn Royal Family,
    Chairman of the Turn Conglomerate,
    Brother in the Noble Augustus Family,
    Elder of the Noble Leviatus Family,
    Elder of the Noble Azach Syndicate,
    Son of the Royal Stuart-Danneborg Family,
    Count of Athinda & Prince of the Blood,
    Imperial Temple God of Madness,
    Madly Mad with Madness,
    Eligible Bachelor,
    Blessed Father and Protector of the Clindean Brotherhood

    :: Past Notable Positions ::

    - First Archemperor of Markarth
    - Former Minister of the Interior of Exshaw
    - Former Chancellor of The United States of Europe
    - Former CEO and Delegate of The Genesis Corporation
    - Duke of the Imperial City
    - Father of Athos
    - Imperator of the Clindean Commonwealth

    Note: not all positions listed



    Raxus
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    Mathyland
  • Citizen
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  • Why does everyone seem to be changing their avatar picture right now?
    Résumé

    Hogwarts NS:

    Co-WA Delegate: June 13, 2016-present
    Hufflepuff student: April 9, 2016-present
    House points earned: 7 (Also, 40 points were a group effort, so I earned part of that as well)
    Host of Death Eaters II

    Wintreath:

    Citizen: September 6, 2016-present

    Underhusen Terms
    The 21st Underhusen
    The 22nd Underhusen
    The 23rd Underhusen - secretary
    The 24th Underhusen
    The 25th Underhusen
    The 26th Underhusen
    The 27th Underhusen

    Other:

    NationStates nation: March 11, 2016-present

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