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Underhusen Seats for the Fifteenth Storting Act
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  • Quote from: Underhusen Seats for the Fourteenth Storting Act
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    1. This act shall be entitled the Underhusen Seats for the Fifteenth Storting Act.

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    2. The number of Skrifa for the fifteenth session of the Underhusen shall be seven (7).

    I know this is early, but given the rate of votes, we're likely to stick around for another term or two before we can work something out. I endorse seven seats for the next session of the legislature becasue as we can prove from this/last time, we need more voices in the Underhusen to actually provide better debate. We need actual dissenting opinions.

    Given that the citizenry have only narrow support of the bill, we are clearly not representing their interests enough, so we need to offer a chance to change that by allowing more citizens to come in with us.
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  • It's a pity that we can't just make the Underhusen large enough for everyone. I'm with the idea for seven seats though. It'll perhaps allow us to get more stuff done. That being said, I personally might want to take a break from the legislature, and reconnect with my constituents, because at the moment it seems that we've wasted a bunch of our time. :'(

    I'm being melodramatic of course, but it is discouraging to have people convinced that we aren't going to listen because we support getting an Open Assembly put into place. If we want a compromise, we could turn just the Underhusen into an Open Assembly, and maintain a bicameral legislature of sorts while people get settled in (sort of like Parliament before it got full power :) ), that might be a good compromise!
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    Résumé/A History of Robin on NationStates
    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 4 June 2015 - present
    Member of the Hvitt Riddaral: 21 August 2015 - present
    Strifa of the 12th Underhusen: 8 October 2015 - 13 December 2015
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 14th Underhusen: 8 February 2016 - 8 April 2016
    Speaker of the 16th Underhusen: 10 June 2016 - 11 August 2016
    Ambassador to Europeia: 5 December 2016 - present
    RP Guild Councillor: 23 February 2017 - present
    Ambassador to The North Pacific: 11 March 2017 - present
    Speaker of the 21st Underhusen: 10 April 2017 - 10 June 2017
    Delegate of Wintreath: 10 June 2017 - 15 March 2020
    Strifa of the 23rd Underhusen: 10 August 2017 - 10 November 2017
    Thane of Ambassadors: 10 October 2018 - 10 December 2018
    Commendation of Wintreath: Sept 24 2020

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    Citizen: 27 November 2015 - present
    Patrician: 12 January 2016 - present
    Lord of Development: 5 February 2016 - present


    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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  • Yeah, let's go with 7.
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  • It's a pity that we can't just make the Underhusen large enough for everyone. I'm with the idea for seven seats though. It'll perhaps allow us to get more stuff done. That being said, I personally might want to take a break from the legislature, and reconnect with my constituents, because at the moment it seems that we've wasted a bunch of our time. :'(

    I'm being melodramatic of course, but it is discouraging to have people convinced that we aren't going to listen because we support getting an Open Assembly put into place. If we want a compromise, we could turn just the Underhusen into an Open Assembly, and maintain a bicameral legislature of sorts while people get settled in (sort of like Parliament before it got full power :) ), that might be a good compromise!
    That would still require a constitutional amendment, because the 4-7 seat requirement is in the Fundamental Laws.
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  • It's a pity that we can't just make the Underhusen large enough for everyone. I'm with the idea for seven seats though. It'll perhaps allow us to get more stuff done. That being said, I personally might want to take a break from the legislature, and reconnect with my constituents, because at the moment it seems that we've wasted a bunch of our time. :'(

    I'm being melodramatic of course, but it is discouraging to have people convinced that we aren't going to listen because we support getting an Open Assembly put into place. If we want a compromise, we could turn just the Underhusen into an Open Assembly, and maintain a bicameral legislature of sorts while people get settled in (sort of like Parliament before it got full power :) ), that might be a good compromise!
    That would still require a constitutional amendment, because the 4-7 seat requirement is in the Fundamental Laws.
    Yeah, I know.  I was suggesting that as an alternative to the whole problem with the OA, we could quite easily propose an ammendment to the FLs to strike the 4-7 seat requirement. :)
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    Résumé/A History of Robin on NationStates
    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 4 June 2015 - present
    Member of the Hvitt Riddaral: 21 August 2015 - present
    Strifa of the 12th Underhusen: 8 October 2015 - 13 December 2015
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 14th Underhusen: 8 February 2016 - 8 April 2016
    Speaker of the 16th Underhusen: 10 June 2016 - 11 August 2016
    Ambassador to Europeia: 5 December 2016 - present
    RP Guild Councillor: 23 February 2017 - present
    Ambassador to The North Pacific: 11 March 2017 - present
    Speaker of the 21st Underhusen: 10 April 2017 - 10 June 2017
    Delegate of Wintreath: 10 June 2017 - 15 March 2020
    Strifa of the 23rd Underhusen: 10 August 2017 - 10 November 2017
    Thane of Ambassadors: 10 October 2018 - 10 December 2018
    Commendation of Wintreath: Sept 24 2020

    New Hyperion:
    Citizen: 27 November 2015 - present
    Patrician: 12 January 2016 - present
    Lord of Development: 5 February 2016 - present


    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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  • I don't think 7 seats will solve the underlying problem, since so few people even bothered to comment on the bill, but sure, let's go with that. I echo Barnes' statement about feeling betrayed, though, and I'm not going to stand in the next session, echoing Robin.

    Let's see how other people like having to do all the work while no one bothers to comment or even inform you that there's a problem.
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  • I'm fine with 7 seats as well.

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  • It's been about fifty hours since the bill's been released, and everyone here has shown support. Does that mean there will be a call for the bill's further action?
    « Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 02:07:20 AM by Barnes »
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  • I motion to vote.
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  • I second the motion.
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