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South Africa would serve as an example of how badly socialism can go wrong.

And for all that I said this isn't the place, America serves as a perfect example of how conservatism and the right wing ideologies can go wrong. I don't think socialism had anything to do with apartheid, or at least it wasn't anything approaching the main reason for its development. Americans and this hateboner for socialism is honestly one of the more stupid things I get to witness in my sphere of work.

Let's leave it at that now.

Yeah, I'm not saying socialism in any situation is stupid. I'm just saying it isn't inherently good, just like capitalism isn't inherently good or bad. Somewhere in the middle is where it's at. But I digress. Perhaps a topic in the serious discussions area is in order?

Gov, your house sounds interesting xD I like assassins.

@Taintedpaws, you are welcome to join.  Would you like to be sister, or daughter?

The House of Telcontar is also looking for new members if anyone is interested

Didn't you retire from NS?

I didn't add Telcontar since nobody (including yourself) was a current Wintreath citizen, but since you're back, I'll add it back with you as the Pa..Ma...the triarch, since I forget if you're male or female. 

I didn't add Telcontar since nobody (including yourself) was a current Wintreath citizen, but since you're back, I'll add it back with you as the Pa..Ma...the triarch, since I forget if you're male or female. 

male

Nice choice for Spudtriarch.

Profile says he's male.

Ah...well Spudtriach is more fitting anyways. 

I didn't add Telcontar since nobody (including yourself) was a current Wintreath citizen, but since you're back, I'll add it back with you as the Pa..Ma...the triarch, since I forget if you're male or female. 

I never stopped being a citizen

And yes, male, though Spudtriarch is much more appropriate.

I didn't add Telcontar since nobody (including yourself) was a current Wintreath citizen, but since you're back, I'll add it back with you as the Pa..Ma...the triarch, since I forget if you're male or female. 

I never stopped being a citizen

And yes, male, though Spudtriarch is much more appropriate.

When you disappear for a long time and your nation CTEs, you become a "Former Citizen."

@Taintedpaws, you are welcome to join.  Would you like to be sister, or daughter?

*shrugs* dunno o3o i guess i can be a daughter~

@Taintedpaws, you are welcome to join.  Would you like to be sister, or daughter?

*shrugs* dunno o3o i guess i can be a daughter~

@Pengu, please update my house.

Everyone, @Taintedpaws is now Taintedpaws Auditore di Wintreathi, my daughter in the House of Auditore!

Be nice to my mentee. Or else.

The words "ungghh" satisfactorily sum up everything I have to say.