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RP Complaint from Departing Citizen
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Wintermoot
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  • I just wanted to relay a complaint regarding RP from someone that's decided to leave the region. They indicated that they "did not receive the RP experience" they expected from the region because one of the RPs, the Wintrean Union, has fallen inactive.

    I don't know if the guild wants to do anything about it, but I told them I'd pass his complaint to the guild.


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
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    taulover
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  • These are my thoughts about the complaint:

    First off, Wintreath Union isn't inactive, it just hasn't started yet.

    All the RPs in the region are run by individual players. Thus, anyone joining our RP community should expect some of the RPs to occasionally have slumps in activity. The one that Wintrean Union is currently experiencing isn't even that long. In New Hyperion, the Penguins vs. Cookies RP has gone for months at a time without any posts. Participating in quality RPs requires patience and understanding that people have lives outside of NationStates.

    In addition, we have more than just one active RP right now. People interested in our RP community can and probably should join multiple RPs for maximum benefit.

    Most importantly, however, whoever this person is, they evidently did not make an effort to become involved in our RP community. Everyone who has joined either the RP Guild or the Wintrean Union RP still remains a citizen. Instead of applying and working on a factbook, or even contacting Bodobol and asking when the RP will start, this person has just taken a look at the RP posts and decided that since it was "inactive," they should not participate. RP'ing needs more commitment than that, or else they would fall apart once participants lose their initial interest.
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    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 8 April 2015 - present
    From the Ashes RP Game Master: 29 November 2015 - 24 July 2018
    Skydande Vakt Marshal: 29 November 2015 - 28 February 2017
    Skrifa of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    RP Guild Councillor: 9 February 2016 - 6 March 2018
    Ambassador to Lovely: 23 February 2016 - 17 August 2016
    Werewolf VII co-host: 11 May 2016 - 5 June 2016
    Skrifa of the 18th Underhusen: 8 October 2016 - 7 December 2016
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    Ambassador to the INWU: 11 March 2017 - 1 March 2022
    Ambassador to the Versutian Federation: 18 August 2017 - 22 March 2018
    Thane of Integration: 29 September 2017 - 7 March 2018
    Speaker of the 24th Underhusen: 10 October 2017 - 7 December 2017
    October 2017 Wintreath's Finest: 4 November 2017
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    Wintreath's Finest of 2017: 6 January 2018
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    March 2019 Wintreath's Finest: 4 April 2019
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    Rasdanation
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  • I was looking through the people in Wintrean Union to see who this was. The only new person who has joined that was White Mamba which is as I see, is still in Wintreath. Can I have a bit of clarification on who this was?
    T'was the year of Wintreath!
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    Laurentus
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  • I'm with Tau on this one.

    And Rasdanation, I think it would be best to respect the person's anonymity. We can't please everyone, but we should accept that fact and respect their decisions.
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    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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    Rasdanation
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  • I think it would be best to respect the person's anonymity. We can't please everyone, but we should accept that fact and respect their decisions.
    Ok then...
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    Laurentus
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  • I also feel I should note that we can't address people's concerns if they don't come to us. Staying silent on a matter and then disappearing instead of approaching one of us privately on a matter doesn't allow us to address the issue productively. I think I speak for everyone in the guild that we would have taken it seriously to try and alleviate the person's concerns if they had simply come to us. We can't fix a potential problem if we don't know it exists, and we aren't all-knowing. Keeping RP running is very much a community effort.
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    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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    Wintermoot
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  • They indicated that they were in the process of picking another region, so they haven't left yet.

    I don't think this RP has been on pause for a long time, but it may be worth considering what to do in the RP becomes inactive for a long period of time. Does it simply end or get retired or what?



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    They said "You'd better look alive"
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    Laurentus
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  • @Bodobol has the clearest idea of what his RP entails. Perhaps he could comment on it as the host?
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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    Wintermoot
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  • True, but I meant in general for the future...I didn't have any specific RP in mind. :P


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    taulover
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  • I think the fate of inactive RPs should be left to its GM. Nevertheless, if a large part of the participants leaves, an RP simply cannot continue.
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    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 8 April 2015 - present
    From the Ashes RP Game Master: 29 November 2015 - 24 July 2018
    Skydande Vakt Marshal: 29 November 2015 - 28 February 2017
    Skrifa of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    RP Guild Councillor: 9 February 2016 - 6 March 2018
    Ambassador to Lovely: 23 February 2016 - 17 August 2016
    Werewolf VII co-host: 11 May 2016 - 5 June 2016
    Skrifa of the 18th Underhusen: 8 October 2016 - 7 December 2016
    Ambassador to Balder: 1 December 2016 - 1 March 2022
    Skrifa of the 19th Underhusen: 7 December 2016 - 9 February 2017
    Ambassador to the INWU: 11 March 2017 - 1 March 2022
    Ambassador to the Versutian Federation: 18 August 2017 - 22 March 2018
    Thane of Integration: 29 September 2017 - 7 March 2018
    Speaker of the 24th Underhusen: 10 October 2017 - 7 December 2017
    October 2017 Wintreath's Finest: 4 November 2017
    Speaker pro tempore of the 25th Underhusen: 9 December 2017 - 7 February 2018
    Wintreath's Finest of 2017: 6 January 2018
    Werewolf XIV host: 20 January 2018 - 23 February 2018
    February 2018 Wintreath's Finest: 5 March 2018
    Thane of Embassy Dispatches / Foreign Releases and Information / Foreign Dispatches: 7 March 2018 - 15 March 2020
    Speaker of the 28th Underhusen: 10 June 2018 - 7 August 2018
    Second Patriarch of the Noble House of Valeria: 10 October 2018 - present
    Arena Game 6 Host: 28 December 2018 - 9 March 2019
    Librarian of the Underhusen: 29 January 2019 - 12 February 2019
    Speaker of the 32nd Underhusen: 12 February 2019 - 8 April 2019
    March 2019 Wintreath's Finest: 4 April 2019
    Librarian of the Underhusen: 12 April 2019 - 23 October 2020
    Commendation of Wintreath: 24 September 2020
    Peer of the Overhusen: 9 December 2020 - 8 February 2021
    Vice Chancellor of the Landsraad: 26 May 2021 - 15 September 2022
    Arena Game 8 Host: 10 June 2021 - 19 July 2021
    June 2021 Wintreath's Finest: 5 July 2021
    Regional Stability Squad: 28 February 2023 - present
    Minecraft Server Admin: 8 March 2023 - present

    Aura Hyperia/New Hyperion:
    Plebeian: 16 April 2014 - 21 July 2014
    Patrician: 21 July 2014 - present
    Adeptus Mechanicus: 24 October 2014 - 16 November 2014
    Co-founder of New Hyperion: 29 October 2014 - present
    Lord of Propaganda: 16 November 2014 - present
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    Wintermoot
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  • What if the GM themselves end up falling inactive?


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    Laurentus
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  • We could adopt a policy where someone else hosts it after a certain level of inactivity is reached...

    There are problems with this, of course.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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    BraveSirRobin
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  • We also could do the RPs in "seasons" or something like that, in order to allow new people to join and be easily integrated into the RP.  That would ensure that RPs wouldn't fall dormant as a result of people falling inactive, perhaps.  That's the reason TV shows aren't continuously running, either—people have to be able to be introduced to replace cast members that have wanted changes in their careers.  Here the same basic principle is true, right? 
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    Résumé/A History of Robin on NationStates
    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 4 June 2015 - present
    Member of the Hvitt Riddaral: 21 August 2015 - present
    Strifa of the 12th Underhusen: 8 October 2015 - 13 December 2015
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 14th Underhusen: 8 February 2016 - 8 April 2016
    Speaker of the 16th Underhusen: 10 June 2016 - 11 August 2016
    Ambassador to Europeia: 5 December 2016 - present
    RP Guild Councillor: 23 February 2017 - present
    Ambassador to The North Pacific: 11 March 2017 - present
    Speaker of the 21st Underhusen: 10 April 2017 - 10 June 2017
    Delegate of Wintreath: 10 June 2017 - 15 March 2020
    Strifa of the 23rd Underhusen: 10 August 2017 - 10 November 2017
    Thane of Ambassadors: 10 October 2018 - 10 December 2018
    Commendation of Wintreath: Sept 24 2020

    New Hyperion:
    Citizen: 27 November 2015 - present
    Patrician: 12 January 2016 - present
    Lord of Development: 5 February 2016 - present


    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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    Aragonn
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  • I'm not in favor of your "seasons", but I'll entertain the idea. Could you explain more as to how this would work for RPs?
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    BraveSirRobin
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  • I'm not in favor of your "seasons", but I'll entertain the idea. Could you explain more as to how this would work for RPs?
    Like every two months or so we could have a weeklong pause/discussion and allow new people to join, like an infusion of new ideas and excitement to ensure that the RP doesn't stagnate.  Does that sound good?  You could probably tweak it a bit to make it better...
    Sir Robin of Camelot

    "Whilst the men of Caenia were scattered far and wide, pillaging and destroying, Romulus came upon them with an army, and after a brief encounter taught them that anger is futile without strength."  -Titus Livius, Ab Urbe Condita

    (Ravenclaw is the best!)

    Résumé/A History of Robin on NationStates
    Wintreath:
    Citizen: 4 June 2015 - present
    Member of the Hvitt Riddaral: 21 August 2015 - present
    Strifa of the 12th Underhusen: 8 October 2015 - 13 December 2015
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 13th Underhusen: 13 December 2015 - 8 February 2016
    Speaker Pro Tem of the 14th Underhusen: 8 February 2016 - 8 April 2016
    Speaker of the 16th Underhusen: 10 June 2016 - 11 August 2016
    Ambassador to Europeia: 5 December 2016 - present
    RP Guild Councillor: 23 February 2017 - present
    Ambassador to The North Pacific: 11 March 2017 - present
    Speaker of the 21st Underhusen: 10 April 2017 - 10 June 2017
    Delegate of Wintreath: 10 June 2017 - 15 March 2020
    Strifa of the 23rd Underhusen: 10 August 2017 - 10 November 2017
    Thane of Ambassadors: 10 October 2018 - 10 December 2018
    Commendation of Wintreath: Sept 24 2020

    New Hyperion:
    Citizen: 27 November 2015 - present
    Patrician: 12 January 2016 - present
    Lord of Development: 5 February 2016 - present


    (I stole this format from tau, but who am I not to copy a great system? :-) )

    Ne Crustumini quidem atque Antemnates pro ardore iraque Caeninensium satis se impigre movent; ita per se ipsum nomen Caeninum in agrum Romanum impetum facit. Sed effuse vastantibus fit obvius cum exercitu Romulus levique certamine docet vanam sine viribus iram esse.
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