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  • That doesn't sound appealing at all.

    The point of it isn't really to be appealing, and not everyone has the same experience - supposedly with ayahuasca you can get feelings of community, but I've never had the privilege of communing with it.

    It's not fun, per se. At least, it's not fun for me.
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  • The point of it isn't really to be appealing, and not everyone has the same experience - supposedly with ayahuasca you can get feelings of community, but I've never had the privilege of communing with it.

    It's not fun, per se. At least, it's not fun for me.
    If you don't mind me asking then, what is the point?


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  • The point of it isn't really to be appealing, and not everyone has the same experience - supposedly with ayahuasca you can get feelings of community, but I've never had the privilege of communing with it.

    It's not fun, per se. At least, it's not fun for me.
    If you don't mind me asking then, what is the point?

    Your consciousness exists in a brain that is constantly kept in balance by a thousand negative feed back loops. Some of these loops govern your perception, some govern your reactions, heart rate, etc. etc. Psychedelics act on the loops that govern your senses and the way your mind actually perceives the world, which is by no means a straightforward process.

    Which is kind of the point - everything you see, smell, taste, touch and think seems static and normal because your brain has always operated in this narrow band (Unless you're dreaming). These drugs go into specific loops or groups of loops and push them further out than they normally go, allowing your entire conception of the way the world works to shift. Often people imagine it as if you're derailing your train of thought, as if something destructive is happening, as in alcohol. What I believe is happening is you're changing the rail that your train of thought is going down. Your mind continues to function, but in an altered way.

    To me, curiosity and knowledge that these are not harmful drugs is enough for me to try it. To look further, it's clear from evidence that there are beneficial effects to be gained from certain hallucinogenics. LSD has been used in treating addiction to cigarettes, and is probably beneficial in treating other kinds of addictions as well. Psilocybin has been successfully used to treat depression. What's been found is that these substances have potent lasting neurological effects - they increase neuroplasticity. This allows your brain to make more new neural connections, which has implications in terms of your ability to learn new things and change your behavior. To this point, studies have mostly only been done on the substances that can be synthesized such as the aforementioned and DMT, but newer studies are researching more complex compounds such as ayahuasca.

    It's very exciting.

    It's mind-expanding in a way that nothing else i've ever experienced is.
    « Last Edit: July 03, 2018, 12:28:48 AM by Evelynx »
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  • Lol.. if it were kosher and popular enough to talk about this kind of thing regularly in a topic, you could call it:
    Say What's In Your Mind

    An assembly line that mass-produces the same thought over and over.
    A enormous world, carefully partitioned into enormous squares with roads running in between the hills upon which they are situated, the land curving slowly upward into the distance.
    A feeling of being pushed through tubes, the feeling of being the gunk that clogs up the works of a great machine. Finally cleaning the gunk out of what turns out to be yourself.
    Being reeled through a tunnel before erupting out into a landscape attached to an arm swinging from an overhead rail, emerging from that factory that produces objects and symbols, some of them familiar, some indescribable.
    A feeling of oneness with the universe. Looking at an object and sensing a deep relationship to it, feel the entire universe rotating into the object, around to the rest of the universe, and back through you into it. Eating the object. It's a cookie, it tastes good but somehow it feels cannibalistic to be eating what amounts to yourself.
    The sound of music as it pulses into you and out of you. Sweet as honey.

    ROBOTIC ELVES STEALING MY LIMBS (lol)!!!!!!
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  • So how has it changed you in particular?


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  • So how has it changed you in particular?

    I've only done it once, but it helped me get over my Grandfather's death without too much heartache. I felt like I was able to put the loss in perspective very easily, I felt like after my mourning period that it was complete, that I had truly mourned and need mourn no longer.

    I'm happier, more productive, and more ambitious. I'm more assertive, understanding, and kind. I'm more stable generally.

    But I've only done it once, I want to really win one of these fights. To this point I feel like I've mostly lost them.
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  • I've only done it once, but it helped me get over my Grandfather's death without too much heartache. I felt like I was able to put the loss in perspective very easily, I felt like after my mourning period that it was complete, that I had truly mourned and need mourn no longer.

    I'm happier, more productive, and more ambitious. I'm more assertive, understanding, and kind. I'm more stable generally.

    But I've only done it once, I want to really win one of these fights. To this point I feel like I've mostly lost them.
    Well, if you feel like it's helping you, then I'm happy for you. :)

    These fights?


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  • I've only done it once, but it helped me get over my Grandfather's death without too much heartache. I felt like I was able to put the loss in perspective very easily, I felt like after my mourning period that it was complete, that I had truly mourned and need mourn no longer.

    I'm happier, more productive, and more ambitious. I'm more assertive, understanding, and kind. I'm more stable generally.

    But I've only done it once, I want to really win one of these fights. To this point I feel like I've mostly lost them.
    Well, if you feel like it's helping you, then I'm happy for you. :)

    These fights?

    I think it's kind of a game.. you go into it and you play against yourself, and you either win with yourself or lose. I'm a pretty anxious person so it's hard to get over my initial fear reaction to the new stimuli. I believe that over time I can get over those fears, and can use those tools in my ordinary life to overcome the fears that plague me daily. So, I want to have a trip that's like a classic hero's journey, where I go into it face myself and my challenges, and then overcome them. I want that feeling of victory. To this point I've gotten stuck inside the loops.
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  • I think it's kind of a game.. you go into it and you play against yourself, and you either win with yourself or lose. I'm a pretty anxious person so it's hard to get over my initial fear reaction to the new stimuli. I believe that over time I can get over those fears, and can use those tools in my ordinary life to overcome the fears that plague me daily. So, I want to have a trip that's like a classic hero's journey, where I go into it face myself and my challenges, and then overcome them. I want that feeling of victory. To this point I've gotten stuck inside the loops.
    But if you're playing against yourself...either way you win, right? :P

    I'm also a pretty anxious person, so I understand wanting to overcome your fears and live more carefree in a way...that's how I feel at least. I think I'll stick to taking it day by day and meditation, but I hope that it works out for you. :)


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  • I think it's kind of a game.. you go into it and you play against yourself, and you either win with yourself or lose. I'm a pretty anxious person so it's hard to get over my initial fear reaction to the new stimuli. I believe that over time I can get over those fears, and can use those tools in my ordinary life to overcome the fears that plague me daily. So, I want to have a trip that's like a classic hero's journey, where I go into it face myself and my challenges, and then overcome them. I want that feeling of victory. To this point I've gotten stuck inside the loops.
    But if you're playing against yourself...either way you win, right? :P

    I'm also a pretty anxious person, so I understand wanting to overcome your fears and live more carefree in a way...that's how I feel at least. I think I'll stick to taking it day by day and meditation, but I hope that it works out for you. :)

    Many, everyone should do psychedelics though. I think it's going to become much more widespread as a therapeutic method in the near future. Ibogaine is undergoing clinical trials for treatment of opiate addiction. It's already proven to work, so it's just a matter of getting lawmakers to wake up to the fact that their pointlessly destructive drug war is a waste of suffering.
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  • Many, everyone should do psychedelics though. I think it's going to become much more widespread as a therapeutic method in the near future. Ibogaine is undergoing clinical trials for treatment of opiate addiction. It's already proven to work, so it's just a matter of getting lawmakers to wake up to the fact that their pointlessly destructive drug war is a waste of suffering.
    I'll think about it if they come up with a way that doesn't involve the tripping stuff. :P


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  • Many, everyone should do psychedelics though. I think it's going to become much more widespread as a therapeutic method in the near future. Ibogaine is undergoing clinical trials for treatment of opiate addiction. It's already proven to work, so it's just a matter of getting lawmakers to wake up to the fact that their pointlessly destructive drug war is a waste of suffering.
    I'll think about it if they come up with a way that doesn't involve the tripping stuff. :P
    Isn't that what microdosing is for?
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  • Many, everyone should do psychedelics though. I think it's going to become much more widespread as a therapeutic method in the near future. Ibogaine is undergoing clinical trials for treatment of opiate addiction. It's already proven to work, so it's just a matter of getting lawmakers to wake up to the fact that their pointlessly destructive drug war is a waste of suffering.
    I'll think about it if they come up with a way that doesn't involve the tripping stuff. :P

    You could microdose. Also, I don't understand you.. O_o
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