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Ducky911
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  • With elections going on, I think I could throw this out there. With regards to my interest on the history aspect of Wintreath, I feel that the candidates and elected official, their positions,  as well as members of the cabinet and royals should be catalogued and updated as they changed. This could be stored in a separate area of the forum that would serve as a history as well as a resource for future elections, appointments, etc.. Then the information could be stored while clearing the forum areas of importance such as elections and government pages for updates without getting clunky. I also feel once a judiciary is instated, it will be imperative for decisions and punishments of who and when to be catalogued for future reference in a place where it can be easily accessed for the same reasons, to de-clunk the forums. Another function would be for military purposes to determine trends from the history of invasions, treaties, etc. Just some thoughts. I am a person who believes a history is absolutely necessary to a more stable and a smarter region.

    I'm not sure if this should fall under the Ministry of Culture or Information however, but I am leaning towards Information.

    [edit] Also I wonder if this should go under suggestions in the Technical forum?
    « Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 08:03:11 AM by Ducky911 »
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  • Hmm, that might be quite interesting - allows us to set precedent for future elections as well :)

    Now that you've mentioned history, I wonder if we should throw together a document defining Witreath's 'history' as a region etc. That'd be up to Mootles though, I guess.
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  • It would also be very useful in determining precedents for judiciary rulings and a way for the people to see if the rulings were being laid out fairly across all citizens. But yes, it would be up to him. And I do think it should fall under Ministry of Information but I don't know if we even have one yet...
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  • This is a good idea! Which ministry it would fall under depends...is this pure history, or will this include roleplay?


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  • Well there could be both. I believe there absolutely needs to be pure history of the decisions and going ons of the site, but having a role play history and gathering that together for all nations to contribute to (or otherwise if decided) could be a good way to entice people who love that sort of thing into joining. The role play could be under culture and the pure history could go to information if thats the way we did it.
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  • Well there could be both. I believe there absolutely needs to be pure history of the decisions and going ons of the site, but having a role play history and gathering that together for all nations to contribute to (or otherwise if decided) could be a good way to entice people who love that sort of thing into joining. The role play could be under culture and the pure history could go to information if thats the way we did it.

    I think this is a pretty good way of doing it, and I agree with including elements of RP - it'll make what otherwise might end up quite a bland recount into an interesting read for newer members.
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  • I would recommend keeping any "pure" history and any RP history separate, though. Having them both in the same place might confuses people that are new to Wintreath, especially those that are new to NS.

    How do you propose we start?


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  • I would recommend keeping any "pure" history and any RP history separate, though. Having them both in the same place might confuses people that are new to Wintreath, especially those that are new to NS.

    How do you propose we start?

    True, perhaps link the two to each other at the top of the document? A [Click here for ____ version] or something.

    For the one, we'd have to start from the foundation of the region and the passage of the first law, along with the formalising of the constitution (probably have an index of relevant topics for readers to go to) and the first elections. I don't know about all future elections being documented as closely but I would recommend at least recording the candidates and the outcomes.

    For the other, well... that's a whole different kettle of fish and would need a few people working on it, and you'd probably need to be involved to give everything the Royal Seal of Approval as it were ;)
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  • Well, the Provisional Government only created one law by decree, and only because Citizenship requirements were vital to getting started to make a permanent law. I suppose I can write about the founding of the region, although I will have to give some thought on how to describe the events in Spiritus that were responsible for my leaving and creating this region.


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  • That'd be contained within the factual representation, then?
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  • Well yes...there's enough drama in that story for it to not need sprucing up. :P


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  • I think that until things with the government get hammered out, the focus should be on cataloguing everything that happens to make our region what it is in that sense. The RP aspects can come later once we have a stable system running in our favor. But you guys are essentially describing what I believe to be the most important things that would need to occur in a logistical sense. I wouldn't want RP and pure history to mix either as it would indeed confuse players who are new to everything. But as many players begin on NationStates for the idea of RP, I do think it would be a good recruitment aspect of our Region. Those that would love the RP aspect could join for that and then ease into the government system and vice versa. I think its a win win for everyone who would also be able to read the histories and get a really good grasp of what we are all about whether they join a month from now or at a more distant time.
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  • Sums up the arguments for very nicely, I think.
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  • I had mentioned it in Ducky's citizenship application that I find this an excellent idea and I'd love to help out wherever necessary.  :)

    About under which ministry would this fall under, perhaps it could be branched off? Ministry of Information would focus on cataloguing and putting together governamental information (elections, laws, constitution, WA resolution debates/consensus and so on) and Ministry of Culture would focus on the "pure" historical aspect (and, if I understood the discussion correctly, the RP part). Or would it be better to have a single ministry and separate offices in it working on each aspect?

    Would we create a separate forum to store all the information? We could create a Wiki over time, maybe, as the volume of information grows, but I do think keeping everything in the same place is ultimately easier for who's keeping track of it and who's only consulting it.

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  • I actually had a similar idea. The name of it was the Wintreath Historia, although this idea is rather good. About the ministry I have no idea where it would fall under.
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