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Constitutional Question: Paragraph VII, Section 2
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  • The Fundamental Laws says the following:
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    16. The Storting shall have the authority to issue advisory opinions on matters of constitutionality and legality to anyone whom the Storting has determined has standing to seek an advisory opinion.
    I am therefore asking the Storting to interpret the following section for the benefit of making the constitution a bit more clear:
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    2. The Storting shall have the authority to propose amendments to the Constitution by a two-thirds supermajority vote of both the Underhusen and Overhusen.
    Does it mean that it requires two thirds of both chambers, together or two thirds of each chamber, separately. It came up in a discussion between me and Chanku and it'd be great if it could be clarified.
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  • Well technically the Storting can't issue an advisory opinion because of the fact that there is no procedure to do such...
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  • When there's no procedure, the speaker decides the procedure, at his discretion...
    So what's the bloody procedure this time, oh speaker?
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  • For reference, Chanku mentioned this because I've been mentioning it...
    That sentence says both at the same time. That's what it says.
    Probably wasn't meant that way... Actually I know it wasn't but that's what it says...
    I'm quite the literalist when it comes to law so for me this would mean that we'd have to run the votes as both chambers voting together.
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  • As the person who drafted the majority of the Fundamental Laws, I can assure you that it was meant that one chamber would vote and then the other. There's absolutely no case where it was considered that the chambers should vote together.

    Also, fun Star Trek fact. The Treaty of Armens between the Federation and the Sheliak Corporate was over 500,000 words and took over 100 legal experts to draft because the Sheliak believed the Federation Standard language to be too ambiguous. These sorts of arguments always reminds me of that.


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  • The Sheliak were not incorrect.
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  • But it's still silly that so much effort had to be made. :P


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  • Welcome to law.
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  • That sort of attitude is not going to get us anywhere productive...


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