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I don't see how that pertains to what I wish to propose if elected...

What I was getting at is something you actually said, you don't pick people like door prizes. The law states "at random" which means unplanned which means you pick a person arbitrarily. You said yourself you chose based on certain characteristics, good ones mind you, but nonetheless not random as the law states. I was saying that you are choosing people from a group you appointed and to me, that is bound to backfire one day. Maybe not with you, but the next monarch, or the next, or the next.

You're confusing court justices with Riksråd members. Members of the Storting are chosen at random for each trial in the name of fairness...it's presumed that by holding a seat in the Storting they're already qualified to judge trials. The Riksråd is not random at all, nor does it call for those selections to be random in the law at all.

On the topic of the OFO and the Lazarus-OFO war and the treaty. I will support the OFO in the war only because Osiris was my first real region, so I owe them. But i can still be a loyal member of the Underhusen

If you were "encouraged" by OFO officials to support a repeal of our treaty with Lazarus, what would be your reaction? And I mean in the way that multiple regions were "encouraged" by the OFO to not attend the conference in Lazarus.

III. Justice
1. Upon the filing and acceptance of cases within the Storting, the Monarch shall select at random a Peer of the Overhusen and two Skrifa of the Underhusen to serve as judges. The Peer shall serve as Chief Judge, and the Skrifa shall serve as Associate Judges.

I'm not talking about the Riksrad, I'm talking about the above clause. Now do my points make sense?

Then what is your plan involving the Riksråd?

Also, I wrote an amendment to potentially fix the justice system, but unfortunately it failed twice: http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1250.0

Then what is your plan involving the Riksråd?

Also, I wrote an amendment to potentially fix the justice system, but unfortunately it failed twice: http://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=1250.0

What I would like done is instead of just the clause saying "2. The Monarch shall have the authority to delegate Executive powers and duties to subordinate officials and to create subordinate offices at his or her discretion." I'd rather have, in the Fundamental laws, a list of each department that must be there unless determined by the Monarch and UH/OH that it is no longer necessary, and then add the bare minimum of what each one does, then add the Monarch can add or take away responsibilities as they please, then lastly describe the role of the Thane. It's really just adminstrative junk and more fun to read.

Interesting. Well my plan is a tad different than the link provided. Again, still thinking of a solution.

So basically every time we need a new ministry added we would have to amend the Fundamental Laws.

So basically every time we need a new ministry added we would have to amend the Fundamental Laws.

No, just a royal decree. I said the ones that have to be in there. Any other ones you want to add just need approval and then you can just decree it. It's simple in my mind...

And yet it's unnecessary bureaucracy in mine.

In any case, thanks for your replies.

Well it holds each Jarl accountable "Hey X, you're off on what you're tasks are, look at ABC in the Fun. Laws, that's Y's job".
It makes sure you or a future Monarch makes someone a Jarl who doesn't need to be one by giving them their own title. I remember back in one of my region's before I became Prime Minister (albeit I resigned shortly after), the previous PM made a Ministry of Meow (If I remember correctly) and was totally useless.

Is it a bit time consuming and a semi-long process? Maybe. But to me it seems worth it.

[Gingerly wading in...]

I am aware of at least one Constitutional Monarchy whose Constitution dictates the bare minimum number of Cabinet Ministries (and their responsibilities), but then also specifically states that the Monarch may appoint and delete additional ad hoc Cabinet Ministries, of equal authority in all ways to the mandated offices, as need arises.  This provision permits the Monarch to appoint new ministries and dissolve them without requiring any changes to the Constitution.

This could serve as a parallel model to what you are looking to do without the need to alter the Funadmental Laws each time a new office is erected or dismissed.

[Gingerly wading in...]

I am aware of at least one Constitutional Monarchy whose Constitution dictates the bare minimum number of Cabinet Ministries (and their responsibilities), but then also specifically states that the Monarch may appoint and delete additional ad hoc Cabinet Ministries, of equal authority in all ways to the mandated offices, as need arises.  This provision permits the Monarch to appoint new ministries and dissolve them without requiring any changes to the Constitution.

This could serve as a parallel model to what you are looking to do without the need to alter the Funadmental Laws each time a new office is erected or dismissed.

That's exactly what I said, just in different words.

Let's get this started, then.

Where do you, the candidates, stand on the ever contentious issue of a permanent judiciary?

I don't believe Wintreath requires a permanent judiciary, but I can acknowledge the sometimes-difficult-to-acknowledge fact that there is always a better way, and if there's push for judiciary reform, I can get behind that.

I'm curious to know...what other regions are the candidates involved in? And what are the candidates' stances on government members who are also Citizens of other region?

I'm involved in no other regions.  Wintreath has my allegiance.  Dual-citizenship is, in my opinion, one of those like-it-or-not kind of situations in Nationstates.  I can't ever imagine Wintreath, land of openness and acceptance that is is, ever restricting citizenship or even looking upon cosmopolitan nations with disdain....However, appointment to regional office is a sensitive position, and those with ill intentions would have a field day with such powers as enjoyed by members of the Riskrad.  Notice I said "appointment," not "election."  If the voting public can trust cosmopolitan representatives, than so can I.

Due to this election sometimes being nothing more than a popularity contest, can all of the candidates outline, in detail, legislation they would bring forward if elected?

You are standing for the Underhusen, who's only role is to introduce, debate and vote on legislation.

I would love to silence the issue of judicial reform once and for all.  I know the nature of compromise is to never please anyone fully, but I believe common sense legislation on the judiciary is right around the corner.  I'm also searching for ways to increase resident nations transitioning to citizenship and reviewing previous laws to see if there's any gaps to fill. 

One of the more unique tendencies of Wintreans is that we tend to distance ourselves from "in-game" activities, that is to say, there is very little carried over from Nationstates to Wintreath.  This is not a bad thing, of course, but it can make legislation (a very Nationstates activity) ...difficult at times.  Nevertheless, I'm eager to discover ways to preserve the atmosphere we've developed here and integrate and create new avenues of interaction through legislation.

This 'debate' needs some order and a moderator.

Plish Plosh "Moderation", we're all about excess here! :X

That we are.

This has been a rather lively debate. Usually the debates aren't so active.

I really want pumpkin pie. Who else?!


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Where do you, the candidates, stand on the ever contentious issue of a permanent judiciary?

I support one.  I believe we have enough people to make it work, and it would provide a proper check on both the legislative and executive branches of government.  Plus possible rulings would help streamline our laws and generate possibly more activity in the government, especially if we set up bar exams for approved solicitors.

I'm curious to know...what other regions are the candidates involved in? And what are the candidates' stances on government members who are also Citizens of other region?

Also, to those candidates that hold dual-Citizenship by the OFO, what is your stance on Royal Decree 002, our treaty with Lazarus, and the actions Wintreath has taken in support of Lazarus during the Osiris-Lazarus war?

I'm in TEP and here right now.  I don't care if other government members are citizens of other regions, they just have to know they also have commitments here as well.

As for the action Wintreath took, I support it.

Due to this election sometimes being nothing more than a popularity contest, can all of the candidates outline, in detail, legislation they would bring forward if elected?

You are standing for the Underhusen, who's only role is to introduce, debate and vote on legislation.

I will first try and establish a draft template that would clearly show changes to existing legislation any amendments make.

I will also introduce legislation to formally establish a judiciary.

I will also ensure our Riksrad is accountable to the people by requiring them to publish a report of what they have done and what their plan is in the long term.  I also believe that at some point, earlier Riksrad discussion should be declassified for public viewing for the people to understand any governmental decisions made in the past.

I will introduce legislation that would establish a proper glossary of Nordic terms so we have an understanding of what the proper term for government areas would be.  We still have yet to establish that standard.

These are the ideas I have at the moment.

Mwhahaha Umm, I mean, no. Of course not. I have my reasons for doing what I do, just as everyone does.

Again, in my campaign thread I outlined two specific things I wish to work on, and of course teamwork is always needed and I plan to work with my fellow Skrifas to get 5 laws passed this term, and I have a personal goal of 3.

As you say, it is your decision.

In terms of your other ideas, they might be in the campaign thread, but can you say them here too? It is a debate. Thanks.

Sure! Here is what I said:
I have an idea in my head as to a bill which involves the Riksrad (I can't do that accenty thingy )of I'd say large importance but I need to conduct further research and it may take a while for it to be fully written and good to present.

I also have an idea in changing the judicial process slightly.

David, if you want the people to trust you, you have to be transparent with them.  You're answerable to them, and they have a right to know what your plans are.  No one here (as far as I am aware) that is campaigning has hidden their plans away.  Why the secrecy?  People aren't going to steal your plans.  It's all documented and explained here.

I must echo others' concerns about secrecy from candidates.
I am very much a proponent of transparency, which is why I believe discussion should take place on the forum more than IRC or Skype regarding Wintreath issues. It's an oversight thing.
To all candidates-
What are some mistakes you have seen previous Underhusen Representatives make?
A followup, what would you have done differently?

The only mistakes, if any, I have seen have been a lack of activity from some.  I understand that if you have RL situations you need time away from them, but you should only be part of the government if you have the time and commitment for it.  The last campaign for UH I dropped out because other things were going on at the time that prevented me from devoting proper attention to a campaign.

Thank you all for your questions.  Anyone else?