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Fuck. I don't want to just start some kind of vanity wagon here, but I think Mel is just kind of solved; if we trust Svip's claim, he can scan her tonight and she can protect Svip,

 Just saw this when backtracking, and for a quick clarification: Svip goes by she/her. 

Back to the current, EoD is in 3ish hours and I have no idea to vote for, and y'all leave me with a 3 way tie of wagons that I absolutely hate, you monsters.

Fuck it.

Vote: Doc

Out of everyone, Corbin was on the harder end of scum leaning for me...but I was willing to let it slide due to possibly confused newbie town behavior.  However, that vibe hasn't gone away even since you took the slot, and it can hardly be brushed off the same way with you.  Since I don't want to vote on one of the wagons (I want to see how the Svip/Mel bit goes and I'm willing to buy Abbi's claim for now), you're pretty much the best choice.

What I do know for certain is that Vro and Dolby are definitely not the Killer and Kane is definitely Cop.

Wait, have I missed something? Why is this Known?

Kane claimed, and I verified his claim on my alignment.

Vro subbed in for a completely inactive slot. The Killer was active before then, so we can rule out this slot as Killer.

Dolby was seen visiting Neon by Gerrick on the night NoName was killed by the Killer. Unless the killer has 2 active powers, Dolby isn't the Killer.

So, I did start the game as 3rd party, and my alignment and role were determined by who visited me. Sort of like an amnesiac, but with what I wound up with completely out of my control.

A bunch of you visited me last night, and RNGesus had to come into play.

I am now Town Doctor #2.

Yeah confirming this

Sweet.

Ah, and a bonus: if Mel's really the doctor, she can keep Svip alive, meaning that if Svip 'mysteriously' winds up dead tonight, we'll know the doctor claim is a crock.
Although there was a very specific claim of 'Doctor #2', implying that if true, either Mel is in contact with the other doctor, or was just informed that someone else was the doctor - in which case said other doctor could instead be the one expected to keep Svip alive, leaving Mel free to go doctor someone else...?

3 investigators in this game seems a bit much. I'd rather protect Kane who I was able to confirm info for than Svi who has made investigator claim #3.

Neon who did you use your ability on last night and when did you claim it lol

Important question that need answering. Let's see if it's answered because I am backreading so many pages.

Anyway

1. Melehan was the medical anomaly and I cured them and that hopefully made them town
2. I’m fine with the other two wagons tbh
3. Neon at minimum needs to claim the actions she took last night
4. Straight up KoD is good in pretty much any scenario I come up with as well. Like Svip claimed to inspect him and I don’t think that they’re paired rn, I think it was an appeasement attempt
5. Tbh I think that the Michi kingmaker theory has merit
6. Kanes claim looks good, never comes from a killer. If it comes from a wolf, wolves have an invest which is intended to find 3ps or a straight up role cop.

*waves at fellow doctor*

I'm warming up to #6 considering how many investigative powers there are claimed to be in this game.

Fuck. I don't want to just start some kind of vanity wagon here, but I think Mel is just kind of solved; if we trust Svip's claim, he can scan her tonight and she can protect Svip, and then we start tomorrow with certainty either way.
This means the alternative wagons are to vote for Svip, who is an integral part of the Mel Solution and thus moronic to lynch, or Abi, and I'm fucking kicking myself right now because I can't believe I'm saying this but I genuinely feel like she's town. So I either make a dumb fucking call as I see it, or I start a vanity wagon, which is also a dumb call but I think is marginally less dumb.
I've frankly got to completely reevaluate my PoE at this point because I've turned around on 2 of the 4 people I sussed earlier, which means I probably need to go find at least 1 (hopefully) and possibly 2 more (very not hopefully cause then we're in MiLo) scumspects, but I've seen nothing yet that would convince me otherwise about this suspect, so:
Vote: Michi.

shit, 6 posts since I started this

4 being the number of posts that I made in a day phase of a game on another site which has much higher activity expectations

wait are you not new lol, because if so I'm already starting to regret withdrawing my vote here


goddammit it's too late for this fucking shit aaaaaaagh why do time zones exist

Like I said near the start of this game day, I'll self resolve by the end of the night.

And I believe that Neon is always scum because hider can be used as an investigator, which brings the investigator count in this game up to 4, and that is a lot. If there truly are 4 investigators in the game, then I think it's safe to conclude that 1 of them is scumsided, and the inconsistencies and oddities of her claimed role make me conclude that it's Neon.

Yes, moving over the post count will result in a loss of any potential night powers, Abbi.

PLOT TWIST!

That leaves it between Kane and Svi as the scumsided investigator.

To answer Dolby's question from earlier: I was transported on N1.  Didn't even know what it meant at first until I read about the role it comes from via the MU role list.

I'm not town, I'm 100% completely neutral.  No I'm not the killer (which yes, it's easy for the killer to deny their role, but I promise I'm not them).  I can't say what my role is since it'd incur a possible penalty due to the nature of it, but my goal is that I want to help town.  Technically I don't have to, but it'd be a boring game if I didn't.  Feel free to have fun continuing speculating on what my role is, just know that I can't confirm or deny, so you're on your own on that.

I was really hoping there was going to be some kind of concensus by now since I really don't want to waste my vote, but it's looking like we still can't agree on who needs to be chopped.

I really want to see what the result of this possible Svip scanning Mel bit will be, so I really don't want to vote either of them.

Everyone kinda keeps looking equally townie and equally scum especially with the more claims that keep coming out.

Ahhh, fuck, I don't know which way to vote.  <.<

It is nice to have confirmation of multiple 3P, not all of them the Killer.

If anyone has a reason for one of Vro, Svip, Doc, or Michi to not be killer that isn’t “pretty sure they were afk n1 or n2” please share with the class

Vro subbed in for a completely inactive player, so we can rule out Vro as Killer.

I look at those wagons, and I hate them.

I keep oscillating between Neon scum/town, but that vote on a claimed investigator just oozes scumminess.

I'm forever sheeping Dolby, so KoD is town.

Well I'm, like, 100% that Michi is the kingmaker now, so on those grounds I feel no qualms about at least an attempt at a self-preservation vote. Since the last vote delta was 2, I need at least a 3 vote delta to maybe not die. Of the 3 wagons with a two vote delta, I feel least shitty about the Svip one (incidentally, mb, I'll try to remember you go by she, mea culpa) since multiple people are willing to go in on Mel being the Doc (wow what a coincidence that makes 3 of us in this thread now) (to be 100% clear that was emphatically not a claim, just a name joke), so;
Vote: Svipjoth.

Think Svip just has to be voted here given how the voting went down yesterday

Vote: Svipjoth

Don’t really trust Michi tbh but to late to do anything about that

I’m gonna say that I don’t trust Neon that much but yeah going over cap and losing her action makes her look a lot better at least. Still could be an unfortunate wolf chief.

Kane voting Mel is really making me question my earlier evaluation of which cop claim was townier but I think my vote here is just straight up forced

I find it funny that I’m coming to Kane/Svip but I do think that they are kinda CCs to each other. Also Kane voting Mel is not what I want rn. 

Ugh

Like, I’m still at Mel/me/KoD as the townsiders basically

And then 3 killers (at least two wolves and a killer) outside that

Then another 3P if Michi is to be believed

And if the cloud bursts thunder in your ear

You shout and no one seems to hear

And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes

I'll see you on the dark side of the moon

The music cuts out as the feed comes back from commercials. The remaining nominees look nervous. The host walks on stage and takes the mic.


“Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the next award event! This one, I think, you will find….interesting! Yes, that’s the word for it. But anyway, here are the nominees for Worst Luck!”


The camera cuts to all the nominees as suspenseful music plays.



Neon Abigail: 1 (Melehan)
Doc: 1 (Michi)
Svipjoth: 4 (Neon Abigail, Dolby, KingofDominaria, Doc)
Melehan: 2 (Imaginative Kane, Vroendal)
Abstain: 1 (Svipjoth)


“Oooo, so many choices, so many possibilities! Well, you all know how it goes. After counting all the votes, the winner is….”


A drumroll plays.


“...DOC! Let's have round of applause for our latest award winner!”


Applause breaks out as Doc takes to the stage, a slight look of disappointment on his face.


“You got a real bad hand there, coming in when you did, but you played it well and I appreciate you joining us tonight! I hope you enjoy your award and the after party!”


The host hands the award to Doc, a golden statue of 4 leaf clover, as they pose for the camera. Doc walks backstage to join the afterparty.


“Give it up for Doc who played Malcolm Tucker from The Thick Of It, the Wolf Framer/Janitor tonight! Quite a performance, I must say!”


More applause before the host begins to speak again.


“Now, I have a feeling this next part will be quite exciting! Call it a hunch, hahaha! Now, we’ll be back after this break. Don’t touch that dial now, we’re just getting started!”

Look at earth from outer space

Everyone must find a place

Give me time and give me space

Give me real, don't give me fake

Give me strength, reserve control

Give me heart and give me soul

Give me love, give us a kiss

And tell me your own politik

Malcolm Tucker (Doc), the Wolf Framer/Janitor, was lynched in the day phase.

Day 3 has finished. Night 3 has begun. Submit your night actions to either host, me or @Marzipan, in forum or discord DMs. Night 3 will end in 24 hours at 10 pm (UTC+8 ), 13 June. All players may speak in the night phase, unless dead, for a maximum of 10 posts.


And I would like to thank @Doc for subbing in, I know it was a difficult position but I really do appreciate it and I think you played it well, thank you, Doc :]

Nice 

Michi is not a wolf. Probably not killer either given the lack of town KP and it would just make the setup completely busted if scum can’t kill Michi

Killer list: Vro, Svip. Like, realistically that individual is not Michi or Kane here given how stuff has gone down basically. Mel is gonna say “lol it’s Svip then” and while I think that them just claiming cop as an appeasement option makes sense I don’t fully believe in ut.

But tbh yeah she probably are a killer



The wolf chief is in: Abby, Vroendal, Svip (probably not given the way Doc was handling stuff), Kane (probably not unless wolf chief is multi action)

In addition to this we know that at least one of Svip and Kane is town bc of framers existence

So tldr the town-siders list goes up by one in count to be

Dolby, Melehan, KoD, Michi

And then there’s the PoE: Abby, Vro, Kane, Svip

At least one of Kane and Svip being town is implied by a framers existence, therefore, at least one of Neon Abby and Vro has to be scum, and likely the wolf chief

@Imaginative Kane
@Svipjoth

You two should investigate either Neon Abigail or Vroendal tonight. I think 

Or each other but I’d rather you didn’t bc I think logically one of you is town and the other is the Killer and having you two invest each other in that world is kinda pointless and gets us back to spinning wheels while remaining in place

Heck I’d it makes it easier Svip goes on Abigail, Kane goes on Vro

Also if Svip is in fact a killer KoD can still be a wolf and not confirmed, so drop that clear but he always dies after Svips alignment is revealed

Also that means that there isn’t in fact one in Neon/Vro. There is one in Neon/Vro if Svip is town, but KoD could be added to that list but I still think he’s probably town anyway

KoD could also be a killer if Svip is wolf

Good morning. I see a lot happened after I left. I also see that for some reason we didn't chop Mel. Let's hope she randed the right role, huh?

I think your proposal would be better Dolby if both Svip and Kane investigated the same player, since that way if they get the same result, it will be certain that the target is that alignment, and if not, it gives us potential pairing information. From my pov since I'm neither the Killer nor a wolf, I like the idea of both Svip and Kane investigating Neon, and Neon visiting me.

ActuLly Vro why am I town?

Dolby (4) is an acceptable answer

You're town because N1 you were seen visiting Neon N1, I didn't understand (and still kinda don't) all the shenanigans regarding Neon's claim but you're cleared from being the killer because of that. This is a kinda selfish read but I also think you'd be more active and engaged, eg not missing phases if you were a wolf. Additionally there's a common town role that like to visit players during the night and I think you're that role.