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ActuLly Vro why am I town?

Dolby (4) is an acceptable answer 

Now that I have gleaned some information from my own ability, Melehan's level of information from the first two days seems even more suspicious than it did after they first pointed it out. I am an alignment cop and investigated them last night because of them being one of the players I am suspicious of. They seem to be leaning scum according to this.

While I understand that I seem suspicious to other players, this is why I emphasized a lack of information in my earlier posts. Because I investigate alignments, the reason I never mentioned that earlier aside from concerns about being targeted by scum at night was because my first investigation was blocked. I suspected that saying my night action was blocked would draw a large amount of suspicion towards me:P.

What was the exact wording?

I think that such a claim is suboptimal from the killer or wolf chief unless the wolves have a cop of some type so I’m considering this clearing of being a killer 

@Neon Abigail
@Vroendal

Either of you here?

Also @Svipjoth

Neon who did you use your ability on last night and why didn’t you claim it at start of night

Also ngl I was loosely considering Neon and KoD teammed but then I thought over the events of d2 and came to them just not being teammed

I guess Mel could be bad but I know for a fact she was the medical anomaly and it’s very likely she’s good now. And I kinda thought that she was the obvious kill by baddies last night

I don't know whether to suss Dolby more or less because of this word barrage. On the one hand, showing up basically at EOD (because for me EOD is crack-of-dawn, 7am bullshit) and then essentially hijacking the thread with a barrage of, like, 13 posts seems like a powerwolf sort of move. On the other hand it also seems like an inexperienced player who's worried people are about to make a really big mistake.
Essentially the tipping point for my choice in the matter is that rather than push a single wagon like a powerwolf would, he's hedging, hard, exactly like I'd expect an inexperienced player to do in a situation like this.
I'll withdraw my vote for now while I think about this for another half hour, because I'm now reasonably townleaning him on the basis of...all that above.
Vote: Unvote
I don't have an idea rn of what to change it to, just that I'm gonna have to change it to something cause on the chance that 1) Mel lied and is still the 3p Killer/Mel was a neutral role, but not the 3p killer, and said 3pk is still out there and 2) that this is a fair setup (3 scum) but the third party can count as scum if they so choose, we may be in LyLo, an impression admittedly partially based on just vibes from what is apparently the increasingly 'glitchy' announcement posts.

Dolby (4)

All that said, real talk, I have no idea what this means, and yet it keeps being repeated.

Aaaaa


Ok so to be blunt I think that both Neon and Svip are fine kills and straight up Neon needs to be before the end of the game

Like, her whole claim sequence feels to me that she messed up her claim, whatever, but what is really whack and I don’t get why nobody else is reporting on this is this but Neon’s coward/hider/whatever role has the capacity to clear someone if true and she just comes in with “I have no information” at the start of day two. I don’t think that she suddenly realized mid phase two that she couldn’t use her ability either.

In addition it it is highly likely that what Vro was saying earlier about Abby’s visit and transport might be invalid though it could partially clear KoD I personally find it likely that KoD could have been transported with NoName and thus not aligned with NoNames killer, given no CCs. However, in most order of operations mechanics scenarios, Neon would be seen going to her final target, so yeah, she visited someone who died.

Svip’s invest claim feels like an attempt of appeasement of KoD, especially in light of Kanes claim which looks better and actively not wolfy and definitively not Killer. and tbh I’m gonna chuck KoD a townlean despite feeling that his long walls still could come from scum bc I feel that he was a large number of anti-aligns with most of the game in general

Dolby (4) is basically a reputation I have of just missing entire cycles as town

4 being the number of posts that I made in a day phase of a game on another site which has much higher activity expectations

If we lose I blame Dolby...

Vote: Svipjoth

I think one of Svip and Kane has to be lying about role so...

Can you stay in thread for like 40 minutes while I figure shit out

No I'm at work but I can check randomly lol

Anyway

1. Melehan was the medical anomaly and I cured them and that hopefully made them town
2. I’m fine with the other two wagons tbh
3. Neon at minimum needs to claim the actions she took last night
4. Straight up KoD is good in pretty much any scenario I come up with as well. Like Svip claimed to inspect him and I don’t think that they’re paired rn, I think it was an appeasement attempt
5. Tbh I think that the Michi kingmaker theory has merit
6. Kanes claim looks good, never comes from a killer. If it comes from a wolf, wolves have an invest which is intended to find 3ps or a straight up role cop.

If we lose I blame Dolby...

Vote: Svipjoth

I think one of Svip and Kane has to be lying about role so...

Can you stay in thread for like 40 minutes while I figure shit out

No I'm at work but I can check randomly lol

Neon I need to know what you did last night pls

Aaaaa


Ok so to be blunt I think that both Neon and Svip are fine kills and straight up Neon needs to be before the end of the game

Like, her whole claim sequence feels to me that she messed up her claim, whatever, but what is really whack and I don’t get why nobody else is reporting on this is this but Neon’s coward/hider/whatever role has the capacity to clear someone if true and she just comes in with “I have no information” at the start of day two. I don’t think that she suddenly realized mid phase two that she couldn’t use her ability either.

In addition it it is highly likely that what Vro was saying earlier about Abby’s visit and transport might be invalid though it could partially clear KoD I personally find it likely that KoD could have been transported with NoName and thus not aligned with NoNames killer, given no CCs. However, in most order of operations mechanics scenarios, Neon would be seen going to her final target, so yeah, she visited someone who died.

Svip’s invest claim feels like an attempt of appeasement of KoD, especially in light of Kanes claim which looks better and actively not wolfy and definitively not Killer. and tbh I’m gonna chuck KoD a townlean despite feeling that his long walls still could come from scum bc I feel that he was a large number of anti-aligns with most of the game in general

Sometimes not claiming is better than claiming because in a world where I go 
Hey listen I hid behind a very dead townie but I'm totes but evil it neither helps town nor helps me. Aers is dead I've accomplished nothing.

And I've cleared you as non mafia because I survived but I didn't know you targeted me night 1 until Gerrick came forward with a verifiable claim because my only information outside of who I target (a very dead Aers) is if I'm attacked (which you didn't do)

Aaaaa


Ok so to be blunt I think that both Neon and Svip are fine kills and straight up Neon needs to be before the end of the game

Like, her whole claim sequence feels to me that she messed up her claim, whatever, but what is really whack and I don’t get why nobody else is reporting on this is this but Neon’s coward/hider/whatever role has the capacity to clear someone if true and she just comes in with “I have no information” at the start of day two. I don’t think that she suddenly realized mid phase two that she couldn’t use her ability either.

In addition it it is highly likely that what Vro was saying earlier about Abby’s visit and transport might be invalid though it could partially clear KoD I personally find it likely that KoD could have been transported with NoName and thus not aligned with NoNames killer, given no CCs. However, in most order of operations mechanics scenarios, Neon would be seen going to her final target, so yeah, she visited someone who died.

Svip’s invest claim feels like an attempt of appeasement of KoD, especially in light of Kanes claim which looks better and actively not wolfy and definitively not Killer. and tbh I’m gonna chuck KoD a townlean despite feeling that his long walls still could come from scum bc I feel that he was a large number of anti-aligns with most of the game in general

Sometimes not claiming is better than claiming because in a world where I go
Hey listen I hid behind a very dead townie but I'm totes but evil it neither helps town nor helps me. Aers is dead I've accomplished nothing.

And I've cleared you as non mafia because I survived but I didn't know you targeted me night 1 until Gerrick came forward with a verifiable claim because my only information outside of who I target (a very dead Aers) is if I'm attacked (which you didn't do)

Is your role basically that you die if you target mafia?

Fuck. I don't want to just start some kind of vanity wagon here, but I think Mel is just kind of solved; if we trust Svip's claim, he can scan her tonight and she can protect Svip, and then we start tomorrow with certainty either way.
This means the alternative wagons are to vote for Svip, who is an integral part of the Mel Solution and thus moronic to lynch, or Abi, and I'm fucking kicking myself right now because I can't believe I'm saying this but I genuinely feel like she's town. So I either make a dumb fucking call as I see it, or I start a vanity wagon, which is also a dumb call but I think is marginally less dumb.
I've frankly got to completely reevaluate my PoE at this point because I've turned around on 2 of the 4 people I sussed earlier, which means I probably need to go find at least 1 (hopefully) and possibly 2 more (very not hopefully cause then we're in MiLo) scumspects, but I've seen nothing yet that would convince me otherwise about this suspect, so:
Vote: Michi.

shit, 6 posts since I started this

4 being the number of posts that I made in a day phase of a game on another site which has much higher activity expectations

wait are you not new lol, because if so I'm already starting to regret withdrawing my vote here


goddammit it's too late for this fucking shit aaaaaaagh why do time zones exist

If we lose I blame Dolby...

Vote: Svipjoth

I think one of Svip and Kane has to be lying about role so...

Can you stay in thread for like 40 minutes while I figure shit out

No I'm at work but I can check randomly lol

Neon I need to know what you did last night pls

See the problem is everything I claim continuously makes me look bad. I could lie but that's hardly beneficial. 

So fuck it I'm going to die anyways. One of the penalties for going over the post limit is a complete loss of powers. Quite literally I could do nothing last night. 

Aaaaa


Ok so to be blunt I think that both Neon and Svip are fine kills and straight up Neon needs to be before the end of the game

Like, her whole claim sequence feels to me that she messed up her claim, whatever, but what is really whack and I don’t get why nobody else is reporting on this is this but Neon’s coward/hider/whatever role has the capacity to clear someone if true and she just comes in with “I have no information” at the start of day two. I don’t think that she suddenly realized mid phase two that she couldn’t use her ability either.

In addition it it is highly likely that what Vro was saying earlier about Abby’s visit and transport might be invalid though it could partially clear KoD I personally find it likely that KoD could have been transported with NoName and thus not aligned with NoNames killer, given no CCs. However, in most order of operations mechanics scenarios, Neon would be seen going to her final target, so yeah, she visited someone who died.

Svip’s invest claim feels like an attempt of appeasement of KoD, especially in light of Kanes claim which looks better and actively not wolfy and definitively not Killer. and tbh I’m gonna chuck KoD a townlean despite feeling that his long walls still could come from scum bc I feel that he was a large number of anti-aligns with most of the game in general

Sometimes not claiming is better than claiming because in a world where I go
Hey listen I hid behind a very dead townie but I'm totes but evil it neither helps town nor helps me. Aers is dead I've accomplished nothing.

And I've cleared you as non mafia because I survived but I didn't know you targeted me night 1 until Gerrick came forward with a verifiable claim because my only information outside of who I target (a very dead Aers) is if I'm attacked (which you didn't do)

Is your role basically that you die if you target mafia?

Or possibly 3p the wording is weird. But yes.

KoD is also correct in that you could be scum because I didn't hide behind you and if you're scum who isn't a killer I wouldn't get a notification but you're sitting firmly in my town core so.