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  • Okay, I haven't caught up on d2 yet so I might be missing some context but....did anyone else notice that Mele claims to be John and John is supposed to be dead according to d1's flavor?
    There's more than 1 John in this game.

    And I might as well make a proper reads list before I go to sleep.

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    Move Ruguo up a category

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    Move Marizipan to a sus category. And I’m a bit distrustful if you ngl
    I should talk more about how Lau is not mafia specifically but imo he's really just full sent this game on forcing town to no yeet multiple times in a row for no real reason if so so yeah I'll trust
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  • also Vro sorry but I think that you're the only person currently voting no lynch who has a possibility of switching to me so I'm gonna say to freeze your slot if you switch to me and the vote is close
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  • also Vro sorry but I think that you're the only person currently voting no lynch who has a possibility of switching to me so I'm gonna say to freeze your slot if you switch to me and the vote is close
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    (In spoilers because late and my brain no workie for poems)

    I won't switch to you and will likely vote off Aren tomorrow because I'm having a hard time justifying a Dolby/Michi/Aerso(?) world where Aren is town because that world is crazy. The only things I'm hung up on is that your insistence that I'm so low in your PoE is absolutely ludicrous to me and I want to believe TGN's claim means he's town and I don't understand why a flavor cop would exist if it wasn't relevant. The flavor's worrying so far concerning your role, no?
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  • also Vro sorry but I think that you're the only person currently voting no lynch who has a possibility of switching to me so I'm gonna say to freeze your slot if you switch to me and the vote is close
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    (In spoilers because late and my brain no workie for poems)

    I won't switch to you and will likely vote off Aren tomorrow because I'm having a hard time justifying a Dolby/Michi/Aerso(?) world where Aren is town because that world is crazy. The only things I'm hung up on is that your insistence that I'm so low in your PoE is absolutely ludicrous to me and I want to believe TGN's claim means he's town and I don't understand why a flavor cop would exist if it wasn't relevant. The flavor's worrying so far concerning your role, no?
    if I thought that an Aren yeet was viable today I'd still be voting there, but it doesn't appear to be. Dolby/Michi is always the world where I'm scum from your pov (Aers is however very rarely teammed with me, especially if Michi is also teammed with me bc that means 2 scum are claiming to have no actioned n1).

    I also agree wrt TGN. Main hangup is him not doing anything n1 but he could just get a teammate to lie about their flavor i guess. 

    something something listen to Lau regarding my flavor but I am just not gonna do anything about that point tbh
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  • also Vro sorry but I think that you're the only person currently voting no lynch who has a possibility of switching to me so I'm gonna say to freeze your slot if you switch to me and the vote is close
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    (In spoilers because late and my brain no workie for poems)

    I won't switch to you and will likely vote off Aren tomorrow because I'm having a hard time justifying a Dolby/Michi/Aerso(?) world where Aren is town because that world is crazy. The only things I'm hung up on is that your insistence that I'm so low in your PoE is absolutely ludicrous to me and I want to believe TGN's claim means he's town and I don't understand why a flavor cop would exist if it wasn't relevant. The flavor's worrying so far concerning your role, no?
    if I thought that an Aren yeet was viable today I'd still be voting there, but it doesn't appear to be. Dolby/Michi is always the world where I'm scum from your pov (Aers is however very rarely teammed with me, especially if Michi is also teammed with me bc that means 2 scum are claiming to have no actioned n1).

    I also agree wrt TGN. Main hangup is him not doing anything n1 but he could just get a teammate to lie about their flavor i guess.

    something something listen to Lau regarding my flavor but I am just not gonna do anything about that point tbh
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    Yeah that's fair. I've believed in Lauism since D1 though because why not and so far I think it's been splendid, I'm glad you've stepped into the light my friend even if you haven't seen it.

    I don't see why 2 scum can't claim to have no actioned N1 though, sure it's a gamble, but at the point where that information was revealed the invest info options was out there already, and with no flips it's easier to consolidate in solidarity if you control the thread narrative. That being said I'm not inclined to believe that's what happened, I just like arguing the points.

    Okie I trust you, <3 you, let me live my chaotic life in peace. ;-;
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    I feel like this is possibly worth looking into a bit.  Considering Aren is also doing poetry, could Ruguo be suggesting that Aren's act is just that?  I'm also curious if that means that Aren is also potentially acting as Ruguo's role.  Considering, according to Mel, there's possibly a role that knows (or at least "knew" as she stated) all the roles in the game, that has some interesting potential implications if we have a player that is making it their goal to pretend to be another...especially if that other just happens to have post restrictions where they can't blatantly point fingers at the other person pretending to be them.
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  • Okay, I haven't caught up on d2 yet so I might be missing some context but....did anyone else notice that Mele claims to be John and John is supposed to be dead according to d1's flavor?
    There's more than 1 John in this game.

    And I might as well make a proper reads list before I go to sleep.

    Lock Town
    • Dolby
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    This match’s mine except

    Move Ruguo up a category

    Swap wisch and Vro

    Move Marizipan to a sus category. And I’m a bit distrustful if you ngl
    The names are all in alphabetical order.

    Lau and Michi are confirmed because we see the results of their investigations in the Day flavor. Adding to how the Detective is so far the one town official that is unambiguously NOT corrupt, town should be sheeping the NL.

    As for Marz, there is a reason she currently is where she is on the list. I don't entirely trust it, but unless someone comes along and CCs the role I'm almost positive she's been softing literally all game, she's staying in the Town category.

    ENE also belongs in the Post More Peeps, as evidenced by the fact sleepy brain completely forgot he was in this game.

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    Cause the actor's here
    The actor's playing my part
    I feel like this is possibly worth looking into a bit.  Considering Aren is also doing poetry, could Ruguo be suggesting that Aren's act is just that?  I'm also curious if that means that Aren is also potentially acting as Ruguo's role.  Considering, according to Mel, there's possibly a role that knows (or at least "knew" as she stated) all the roles in the game, that has some interesting potential implications if we have a player that is making it their goal to pretend to be another...especially if that other just happens to have post restrictions where they can't blatantly point fingers at the other person pretending to be them.
    I haven't gotten anything new since D1, so I'm assuming Mac had that role.

    As for the rest of this, considering how many people have been faking post restrictions this game, it's possible, but I think less likely to be a role thing and more likely scum is stuck committing to the deception and this is Ruguo's way of calling out a fake post restriction.
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  • Day 1 Catch-up.

    I'm fine with a no-lynch, because Lau is strongly implying that he (or we) will learn something through it.

    If Lau fakes this as wolf, it's a one-way street to death since we'd find by D2, probably.

    Alternatively Lau is a 3p that wins if he gets town to no-lynch or something similar.

    Arenado and Michi are the only ones who seem to have restricted or changed posting abilities thus far, or?

    Why would you be fine with a no lynch and then say that it's possible that Lau is 3rd party and wins if town no lynches, or outs himself as scum d2 if he fakes it as wolf (which, nothing happened d2 and people still followed him)?
    I saw possible 3p motives in his play, however I still thought he was more likely town than not at that point of the game. I doubted that he was scum, as a play like that would be foolish in my opinion. You'd be outed rather swiftly. Especially with Lau's meta.

    Admittedly, I did misunderstand it a bit which caused me to retract later upon reevaluation.

    Yes.

    Vote: No Lynch

    Going back to the post about saying Lau could be 3rd party or will out himself if he's scum d2, it's weird to follow the no lynch thing.
    Not really. There are many possibilities and nothing is set in stone on D1. Saying someone "could" be something isn't a read or even saying that it's likely. I also don't see how outed scum is a bad thing.

    I don't get why people are trying to paint my read on Aerso as scummy, when they're really not. I'm not going to have substantial reasons to vote people on D1 and expecting that is unrealistic in my opinion. I know very well that Aerso is able to put up a fight, so I don't see me taking my reasons for a scum-read and "running with them", especially with regards to the backlash I received for even suggesting Aerso as scummy in some of my earliest posts.
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  • I don't get why people are trying to paint my read on Aerso as scummy, when they're really not. I'm not going to have substantial reasons to vote people on D1 and expecting that is unrealistic in my opinion. I know very well that Aerso is able to put up a fight, so I don't see me taking my reasons for a scum-read and "running with them", especially with regards to the backlash I received for even suggesting Aerso as scummy in some of my earliest posts.
    I've played with you many times back home and I believe that I've got a pretty good feel for your meta as scum and as town, so I'll publicly state here and now that I think that you're town this game. I fully understand why you may have initially found me scummy because my irl situation is in flux at the moment so I'm not really playing like myself but I hope to have that resolved within the next few days. 

    And just because I don't really have any hard scum reads I'll go with Lau and hope for the best.

    Vote: No Lynch
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  • Sorry for being inactive y'all, I joined this on impulse from a Vro ping without thinking about how much time/energy I would have to put into this. Which as it turns out, is not a lot. I don't like lynching unless I feel like I have a good reason to which means No Lynch is the easiest when skimming the game in 15 minutes. Hence my vote yesterday. Not much else to say about it I'm afraid.
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  • There are solvable problems
    Everything has a price
    Dance like nobody's watching
    We're all gonna die

    life comes at you lightning fast
    any day could be your last
    but there’s no good in fear or worry
    if it doesn’t make you act

    I don’t know what matters
    and I don’t know why
    I’m just making choices
    we’re all gonna die


    I’ve erased all the rules in my internal hard disk
    I think my new medication may throw off my sense of risk

    actions can change you
    to outgoing from shy
    nothing is permanent
    we’re all gonna die

    can’t is a tough word
    it is sometimes a lie
    do things if you want to
    ’cause we’re all gonna die
    but it’s worth it to try
    I don’t want you to die


    Vote: Neon Abigail
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  • Explain to me why we're not lynching Arena?

    Yes, I know that Laur is one reason even though that's, in and of itself, questionable. Because, again, lynching is the means by which town can utilize information gathering (no reason to suspect that a lynch won't obtain information as opposed to, ya know, reveals upon death thanks to the numerous times death information has been nullified) as well as eliminating people that we, collectively, find to be suspicious. As it stands we've been constantly no lynching to no avail for us other than just not losing an extra body. The trade off, in and of itself, is hidden as far as I have gathered from reading around. Laur exclaims it will help town -- that he is town; however, to date, he hasn't explained the benefit nor has it helped ***town*** direct the course of eliminations/reveals. That's been entirely at the discretion of night actions -- the mafia more so than not.

    The only benefit I saw was from the claims of several people which led to pointing fingers at Arena (Michi's ability to see who targets his target or if he target does stuff  -- Dolby being his target). Yet, despite that, Arena still lives AND people are still no lynching knowing full well after several days we'll get another death with it likely being concealed (this, based on the last few days -- we have no reason to expect different which lands town where exactly? With another dead, no reveal, and no information with which to work with.).


    I saw talk about the flavor and connecting people to said flavor. Most notably I've seen Michi likened to the reporter that saw absolutely nothing (to which it seems Michi is in agreement that that is likely him). Cool. In that same vein, I saw it fielded that Laur could be the "corrupt" politician (I haven't followed the flavor in great detail -- I am aware of the setting, some of the characters, and some of the scenes that have played out, but that's it). If you think Laur, based on flavor, is the politician and that that hints towards him being dangerous to the town, well, like someone else said -- do something about it. Playing into the No Lynch day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day, after day is, like I said above, getting town no where.





    To that end, I call for a lynch on Arena to actually force an attempt for information gathering and to eliminate Arena for not one, but two instances now of having been suspected of something fowl. That is, collectively as a town, we haven't had a lynch to see what THAT will do. It's only been the night kills driving the (lack of) information. We, from where I stand, have nothing to lose in lynching someone who, onto the next point, has been brought up as having lied about what was claimed wrt to the targeting of Dolby. This also addresses the concern brought up by Silver that someone is acting like him -- acting like his role. And to top it off, we get to see if information obtained by the lynch will be blocked (role, aligntment, etc).

    So vote for Arena.



    Vote: Arenado


    @ ENE

    I haven't read the last few pages in detail (I scanned over them to get a sense of what was being discussed). I saw your post, responding to Aers, about how you don't get why you're getting flak for your post about Aers back on D1. Who has been giving you flak recently over that?
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  • So, after a somewhat more comprehensive read of the day's posts I'm onboard with the Lau/Dolby line of thinking. The role evidence is there and it generally makes the most sense to me. So in line with that:

    Vote: No Lynch

    Also I would like to reemphasize the point made that lynching gives us very little info since it is all redacted. Ultimately we only have one more no lynch until Lau's power-up is supposed to happen, so I think the best thing to do would be to go through with that and then we can start lynching when the town has increased protection and can better tank mislynches. 
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