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the fact anub threw shade, same for ENE, and gerrick tried wagoning me last second despite me being voted by pretty much a single person (kod) who dropped off earth super early on (michi was on me just because they're allegedly kinda forced to vote the same person as them) is pretty gross 

if Vro flips scum all these three get a horrible look on them because their actions were while still not focused on out owl were fairly protective of him

why shove me back in into the discussion when Vro and Dolby were the main ones that had to be discussed?

Which by the way is gross. Affirming that me and Dolby can't be same alignment is just nasty because a scum can just say that to have a follow mislynch when one of them flips green. If anything my interaction with Dolby shows that we're not likely to be scum together, which still includes the possibility of Town-Town; which is removed when people simply come here saying hurr durr you two aren't the same alignment

I have literally claimed my role in-thread and the fact people aren't considering it before running their mouth first vomit nonsense shows they're either being malicious or straight up fucking lazy and should go back and do their basic shit before vomiting misvotes here. You're just saying you don't like my posts, then do us the basic and tell is WHAT you don't like about our posts? Because what I mainly did was complain that people were faking restrictions as a way of CWACing all Day which made things convoluted and more favorable to scum, what about looks so bad to the point of yall setting up the terrain for a CFD on me? 
Is it my scumread on Dolby due to what I perceived as an attempt of rolefish information out of Laurentus? Is it my scumread on ENE over him overthinking scenarios and wordings to throw shade at people? Is it my disappointment at the players faking restrictions and providing no relevant content like reads? Step the fuck up and explain what you find so scummy about me because I've been busting my ass here and reaching closer and closer to the cap while yall almost getting modkilled for inactivity aint doing shit but bark at the wrong tree if yall remotely considering lynching me. I might be adopting a more aggressive posture this game but unfortunately this is the way it has to go when almost 1/2 of the game is barely saying anything or posting nonsense.

Dolby was literally accused of being the serial killer, and I repeat: didn't refute it when he was called it, and despite of what it seems didn't refute it when they were called out by me about it (wasting time posting "do I really have to make a post saying I'm not the SK" is still not the same as saying "I'm not the SK", and so they still havent refuted the accusation).

I think Vroendal adds much entertainment to the game with his memes, so I don't want him to die. Yep, simple as that since I don't find him to be particularly scummy.

Between ExLight and Dolby (the wagons with he next most votes), I agree with much of Dolby's assessments in his long wallpost where he had obviously reread through the game to post his thoughts, which felt towny to me. Disagreed with his suspicions of ENE from that one post, though. Don't feel particularly sus of Ex either, but like Dolby's posts more.

Vote: ExLight

gross



the fact the modkills was going to be janitored makes me think it's a passive effect of someone

Agreed. Probably one of the maf team's role ability.

So, to recap, Ex has claimed one-shot vig, Michi claims to be a tracker-type currently at the mercy of KoD's votes, and Aren is a watcher-type who saw Dolby visit Mac the night he died. Dolby is some sort of killer, presumably 3rd party. Lau may not be town, and he's one NL win away from accomplishing his goal.

What really bothers me about the EoD voting is how the votes were split across 3 wagons by players who supposedly anti-NL, but not enough to consolidate on a single wagon. I also find it very interesting that ENE has been a major wagon with speedy traction two days in a row. I kinda want to class ENE as town just from that because something is just not sitting right with me about the ENE wagon.

I'm also suspicious of the Vro wagon for similar reasons. Neither player has said anything that's particularly AI, and Vro is actively contributing despite his post restriction, yet both those wagons took off relatively quickly compared to all the others. Something is off here.

Another aspect of the anti-NL group that rubs me the wrong way is that the pushback came before a night where there were potentially 4 deaths: one lynch, one maf kill, one SK kill, and one vig. That number would have gone up to 5 if Minish hadn't been able to sub in.

That is A LOT of deaths for a single phase, and I feel there's very fishy things going on around the voting just in general.

ENE didnt have a wagon though, only Aerosol (im gonna call them this from now on its a lot easier) voted them right?

from my experience with him last mafia game he is unlikely to bus as scum so if he flips mafia I think I'd feel more comfortable about ENE

I'm running short of posts but I'll still be lurking a bit if anyone has suggestions of targets just @me and give me a brief explanation and if I hate your explanation you get shot instead

in the meanwhile I'll be pondering here whether or not I should go with the SK tinfoil

I am dyslexic and mixed up names, lolrip.

I think Vroendal adds much entertainment to the game with his memes, so I don't want him to die. Yep, simple as that since I don't find him to be particularly scummy.

Between ExLight and Dolby (the wagons with he next most votes), I agree with much of Dolby's assessments in his long wallpost where he had obviously reread through the game to post his thoughts, which felt towny to me. Disagreed with his suspicions of ENE from that one post, though. Don't feel particularly sus of Ex either, but like Dolby's posts more.

Vote: ExLight

gross



the fact the modkills was going to be janitored makes me think it's a passive effect of someone

Agreed. Probably one of the maf team's role ability.

So, to recap, Ex has claimed one-shot vig, Michi claims to be a tracker-type currently at the mercy of KoD's votes, and Aren is a watcher-type who saw Dolby visit Mac the night he died. Dolby is some sort of killer, presumably 3rd party. Lau may not be town, and he's one NL win away from accomplishing his goal.

What really bothers me about the EoD voting is how the votes were split across 3 wagons by players who supposedly anti-NL, but not enough to consolidate on a single wagon. I also find it very interesting that ENE has been a major wagon with speedy traction two days in a row. I kinda want to class ENE as town just from that because something is just not sitting right with me about the ENE wagon.

I'm also suspicious of the Vro wagon for similar reasons. Neither player has said anything that's particularly AI, and Vro is actively contributing despite his post restriction, yet both those wagons took off relatively quickly compared to all the others. Something is off here.

Another aspect of the anti-NL group that rubs me the wrong way is that the pushback came before a night where there were potentially 4 deaths: one lynch, one maf kill, one SK kill, and one vig. That number would have gone up to 5 if Minish hadn't been able to sub in.

That is A LOT of deaths for a single phase, and I feel there's very fishy things going on around the voting just in general.

ENE didnt have a wagon though, only Aerosol (im gonna call them this from now on its a lot easier) voted them right?

from my experience with him last mafia game he is unlikely to bus as scum so if he flips mafia I think I'd feel more comfortable about ENE

Aerso is fine, aerosol makes me sound like I’m a type of deodorant 

Hi. I have not kept up with this game because I wasn't planning on subbing in but Vro asked. Anyone wanna recap the important stuff for me before I re-read everything later? 

Also it seems like Wintreath has some fancy new Mafia features? That's awesome!

@Neon Abigail

We have a request for a recap from Minish!

And here I thought it only went to 34, but instead it is 44.

I'll recap things for you, Cin Min:

We're not friends.

haha fml fkn hell

Hi. I have not kept up with this game because I wasn't planning on subbing in but Vro asked. Anyone wanna recap the important stuff for me before I re-read everything later?

Also it seems like Wintreath has some fancy new Mafia features? That's awesome!

I'll send it to you on discord ^^

Ugh. Alright, look, I'm nearing my vibe atm so I'm going to start doing my thing. Just know that I do not look forward to this in any way, shape, or form.

I blame, mostly, a combination of everyone else to some degree.

I won't blame Cin Min though. I've got enough of a reason feeling befriended for all the wrong reasons to hold against her. I will grant it was hell, but hey, hell can be anywhere. Even here. We lost Glorious Bob after all so, truly, this is not a glorious place.

Quite frankly Ex, i think that your role is town, you are towny, and I do not think I should die, or that I in any way am playing to a point where I deserve to die so I will say it so bluntly. Though I think that I have to for you is quite ridiculous. We shouldn't expect people defending themselves from someone who comes in saying that "X is mafia" without any real backing to explicitly say I am not mafia, but I will go through this for you. 

I am town
I am not a serial killer.
I am not mafia.


If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die.

The accusation in the first place is quite flimsy, I do not see how Melehan can even begin to construct specifically "Arenado is a tracker who tracked Dolby to Mac". I asked to be tracked today, I did not visit Mac last night. Arenado has not done anything close to confirming this allegation, and if they do, or instead choose to not do something that obviously rejects the notion that they tracked me to Mac, they should be next in the chop pile

Wischland deciding to vote no lynch now is incredibly partnered with Vroendal, especially after they actually made the decision to vote ENE yesterday. Vro is like, distinctly the scummiest non-fake post restrictioner. I found hope that Vroendal is shot tonight by Exlight if he chooses to not retain his shot. While I hope that Cereal's role was hidden to make it clear that they shouldn't have actions on them tonight and to protect it in case a replacement was found, it seems far more likely that janitor is a passive effect. Still, I find it far more likely that there is simply only mafia, rather than mafia and an sk and the mafia's kill was blocked at the start of night. I think it is likely that Lau simply wants to get in 3 unopposed kills, get rid of the ability to bypass mylo, or just waste our 3 no yeets for 


Other votes off of wagon were eh, but not super sus
" and Aren is a watcher-type who saw Dolby visit Mac the night he died." this is just false and I do not believe that Arenado is trying to even claim that

Vro's contribution is LITERALLY a single list of people. Literally that

Minish slot shouldnt be killed tonight, give them the luxery of catching up pls

We should not no lynch and honestly I'm at the point where I'm willing to self-vote if neccessary to stop it

not happy with the lack of wagon consolidation but I don't think that the players doing it are distinctly scummy, there are just doing to much of it and at a lot of points there individual votes wouldn't make a difference (especailyy if it's close to eod and they think they're going to be the last voter)

still I'd rather more people voted Vro, Vro was the anti-no yeet wagon

I do not like me or Ex wagons

ENE w/e

Saving last post for an hour before day start glgl during night

Exlight pls shoot Vro, thanks

Quite frankly Ex, i think that your role is town, you are towny, and I do not think I should die, or that I in any way am playing to a point where I deserve to die so I will say it so bluntly. Though I think that I have to for you is quite ridiculous. We shouldn't expect people defending themselves from someone who comes in saying that "X is mafia" without any real backing to explicitly say I am not mafia, but I will go through this for you.

I am town
I am not a serial killer.
I am not mafia.


If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die.

The accusation in the first place is quite flimsy, I do not see how Melehan can even begin to construct specifically "Arenado is a tracker who tracked Dolby to Mac". I asked to be tracked today, I did not visit Mac last night. Arenado has not done anything close to confirming this allegation, and if they do, or instead choose to not do something that obviously rejects the notion that they tracked me to Mac, they should be next in the chop pile

Wischland deciding to vote no lynch now is incredibly partnered with Vroendal, especially after they actually made the decision to vote ENE yesterday. Vro is like, distinctly the scummiest non-fake post restrictioner. I found hope that Vroendal is shot tonight by Exlight if he chooses to not retain his shot. While I hope that Cereal's role was hidden to make it clear that they shouldn't have actions on them tonight and to protect it in case a replacement was found, it seems far more likely that janitor is a passive effect. Still, I find it far more likely that there is simply only mafia, rather than mafia and an sk and the mafia's kill was blocked at the start of night. I think it is likely that Lau simply wants to get in 3 unopposed kills, get rid of the ability to bypass mylo, or just waste our 3 no yeets for


Other votes off of wagon were eh, but not super sus
" and Aren is a watcher-type who saw Dolby visit Mac the night he died." this is just false and I do not believe that Arenado is trying to even claim that

Vro's contribution is LITERALLY a single list of people. Literally that

Minish slot shouldnt be killed tonight, give them the luxery of catching up pls

We should not no lynch and honestly I'm at the point where I'm willing to self-vote if neccessary to stop it

not happy with the lack of wagon consolidation but I don't think that the players doing it are distinctly scummy, there are just doing to much of it and at a lot of points there individual votes wouldn't make a difference (especailyy if it's close to eod and they think they're going to be the last voter)

still I'd rather more people voted Vro, Vro was the anti-no yeet wagon

I do not like me or Ex wagons

ENE w/e

Saving last post for an hour before day start glgl during night

Exlight pls shoot Vro, thanks

"If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die."
What the hell?

@Arenado can you cut your crap and explicitly tell us whether or not you saw Dolby visit Bob last night?

Quite frankly Ex, i think that your role is town, you are towny, and I do not think I should die, or that I in any way am playing to a point where I deserve to die so I will say it so bluntly. Though I think that I have to for you is quite ridiculous. We shouldn't expect people defending themselves from someone who comes in saying that "X is mafia" without any real backing to explicitly say I am not mafia, but I will go through this for you.

I am town
I am not a serial killer.
I am not mafia.


If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die.

The accusation in the first place is quite flimsy, I do not see how Melehan can even begin to construct specifically "Arenado is a tracker who tracked Dolby to Mac". I asked to be tracked today, I did not visit Mac last night. Arenado has not done anything close to confirming this allegation, and if they do, or instead choose to not do something that obviously rejects the notion that they tracked me to Mac, they should be next in the chop pile

Wischland deciding to vote no lynch now is incredibly partnered with Vroendal, especially after they actually made the decision to vote ENE yesterday. Vro is like, distinctly the scummiest non-fake post restrictioner. I found hope that Vroendal is shot tonight by Exlight if he chooses to not retain his shot. While I hope that Cereal's role was hidden to make it clear that they shouldn't have actions on them tonight and to protect it in case a replacement was found, it seems far more likely that janitor is a passive effect. Still, I find it far more likely that there is simply only mafia, rather than mafia and an sk and the mafia's kill was blocked at the start of night. I think it is likely that Lau simply wants to get in 3 unopposed kills, get rid of the ability to bypass mylo, or just waste our 3 no yeets for


Other votes off of wagon were eh, but not super sus
" and Aren is a watcher-type who saw Dolby visit Mac the night he died." this is just false and I do not believe that Arenado is trying to even claim that

Vro's contribution is LITERALLY a single list of people. Literally that

Minish slot shouldnt be killed tonight, give them the luxery of catching up pls

We should not no lynch and honestly I'm at the point where I'm willing to self-vote if neccessary to stop it

not happy with the lack of wagon consolidation but I don't think that the players doing it are distinctly scummy, there are just doing to much of it and at a lot of points there individual votes wouldn't make a difference (especailyy if it's close to eod and they think they're going to be the last voter)

still I'd rather more people voted Vro, Vro was the anti-no yeet wagon

I do not like me or Ex wagons

ENE w/e

Saving last post for an hour before day start glgl during night

Exlight pls shoot Vro, thanks

"If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die."
What the hell?

@Arenado can you cut your crap and explicitly tell us whether or not you saw Dolby visit Bob last night?

Gimme a "hell"
Gimme a "yeah"
Stand up right now
And gimme a "hell"
Gimme a "yeah"
Stand up right now
Get ready to go
She ain't movin' slow
She's takin' control
Pushin' the pedal to the floor
I'm beggin' for more
You better hold on tight

Quite frankly Ex, i think that your role is town, you are towny, and I do not think I should die, or that I in any way am playing to a point where I deserve to die so I will say it so bluntly. Though I think that I have to for you is quite ridiculous. We shouldn't expect people defending themselves from someone who comes in saying that "X is mafia" without any real backing to explicitly say I am not mafia, but I will go through this for you.

I am town
I am not a serial killer.
I am not mafia.


If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die.

The accusation in the first place is quite flimsy, I do not see how Melehan can even begin to construct specifically "Arenado is a tracker who tracked Dolby to Mac". I asked to be tracked today, I did not visit Mac last night. Arenado has not done anything close to confirming this allegation, and if they do, or instead choose to not do something that obviously rejects the notion that they tracked me to Mac, they should be next in the chop pile

Wischland deciding to vote no lynch now is incredibly partnered with Vroendal, especially after they actually made the decision to vote ENE yesterday. Vro is like, distinctly the scummiest non-fake post restrictioner. I found hope that Vroendal is shot tonight by Exlight if he chooses to not retain his shot. While I hope that Cereal's role was hidden to make it clear that they shouldn't have actions on them tonight and to protect it in case a replacement was found, it seems far more likely that janitor is a passive effect. Still, I find it far more likely that there is simply only mafia, rather than mafia and an sk and the mafia's kill was blocked at the start of night. I think it is likely that Lau simply wants to get in 3 unopposed kills, get rid of the ability to bypass mylo, or just waste our 3 no yeets for


Other votes off of wagon were eh, but not super sus
" and Aren is a watcher-type who saw Dolby visit Mac the night he died." this is just false and I do not believe that Arenado is trying to even claim that

Vro's contribution is LITERALLY a single list of people. Literally that

Minish slot shouldnt be killed tonight, give them the luxery of catching up pls

We should not no lynch and honestly I'm at the point where I'm willing to self-vote if neccessary to stop it

not happy with the lack of wagon consolidation but I don't think that the players doing it are distinctly scummy, there are just doing to much of it and at a lot of points there individual votes wouldn't make a difference (especailyy if it's close to eod and they think they're going to be the last voter)

still I'd rather more people voted Vro, Vro was the anti-no yeet wagon

I do not like me or Ex wagons

ENE w/e

Saving last post for an hour before day start glgl during night

Exlight pls shoot Vro, thanks

"If you have a traditional lie detect and are baiting me to try to get this post, and use it on me, you will die."
What the hell?

@Arenado can you cut your crap and explicitly tell us whether or not you saw Dolby visit Bob last night?

Cause if you like the way you look that much
Oh, baby, you should go and love yourself
And if you think that I'm still holdin' on to somethin'
You should go and love yourself