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If Lau turns out scum , then I will consider LoS as a scum , and stay put on Nyght being scum. Colberius is a persistent scum for me

Walk me through your thought-process here.

Also, Sapph, read D1 and Anu's reaction to me voting for Gerrick specifically again, and honestly, if you don't figure out from that why I'm not lynching Anu, then you're probably scum.

Lau you are in my null read, I am sensing a town-esque vibe but I am weirded out by the almost town lean qualified by not clearing me (both components viewed together, not individually). And Anub didn't necessarily ask a misdirected question, the question of "what makes you hesitant to lynch me" is a phrase you throw to people throwing accusations at you without actually voting for you, which it happens you were casting doubts on Anub's behaviour without voting for him

Yeah, exactly, a few of my actions have been very questionable, so I'm still confused why I'm characterised as "solvey" by Nyght and why Legacy is clearing me this easily.

A lot of my read on you comes from the limited info I've gathered from others on your playstyle, which is aggressive and pokey. Which is the vibe I'm getting from you. Which, could be completely incorrect.

Lau you are in my null read, I am sensing a town-esque vibe but I am weirded out by the almost town lean qualified by not clearing me (both components viewed together, not individually). And Anub didn't necessarily ask a misdirected question, the question of "what makes you hesitant to lynch me" is a phrase you throw to people throwing accusations at you without actually voting for you, which it happens you were casting doubts on Anub's behaviour without voting for him

Yeah, exactly, a few of my actions have been very questionable, so I'm still confused why I'm characterised as "solvey" by Nyght and why Legacy is clearing me this easily.

I don't count anybody as cleared in this game, I just have a pretty strong town read on you. Generally, I townhunt better than I scumhunt and the way you're acting makes me confident that you're town for now. Reads are subject to change ofc.

Colby's whole quote history

Ah, now I understand. I think we are using very different methods of reading. I'm not considering who or when Nyght voted at all, I'm looking at his thought process / mindset in the game so far (as opposed to a couple of specific posts of his being towny) and I just can not equate the person that I am seeing now with the person I wolfed with last game. Like if how Nyght was playing could be described as a story then Nyght being scum would mean that the story had a bunch of plot holes already.

It's a bit of a different method of reading I've picked up recently which I believe is known as macro reading? Might be cool if I can find an article on the differences.

Oh, you were wolves together? Then what I brought up about changing behavior is even more relevant. We have no way of knowing that you're not wolves humans together, very deliberately shaking up the ways you play. Your meta analyses of Nyght could be semi-genuine trains of thought, but for all we know, the behaviors you're examining were suggested by you in the first place as a means of painting Nyght as a townie.

At the risk of sounding wolfy, I'm worried that since we're already on page 6 on Day 1 that we might be putting off those players who haven't played Werewolf here in a while. This format of Werewolf (Lil' Wolf) was aimed at giving those players a slower game and not have to stay on top of the game 24/7, lest they come back to 20 votes in as many pages. I'd like to hear from taulover, Hydra, Colberius X (and perhaps BraveSirRobin) to get their thoughts on how the game is currently progressing to make sure this isn't getting too out of hand and turn into one of our now regular games of Werewolf. Also as Michi pointed out in the OP, I'd discourage everyone from using any sort of Werewolf-based abbreviations as well as posting 7 bloody times in a row (looking at you, Laurentus O_O).

How do I think it's progressing? Quite spectacularly! No one knows anything, yet so many people know so very much.

Do I think it may also be a bit much already for "Lil' Wolf"? I think it might, but I haven't been around to see what Werewolf has turned into around here, so not much basis for comparison.

If possible, I would appreciate a few less WW specific abbreviations (at least without defining it the first time it comes up). I know Laurentus has that awesome post of WW Terminology, but I'd rather not keep having to go back to it. 

No, Nyght sits firmly in my nulls at present. Of course, I only have one scum lean at present, and that's Anu.

I'm surprised you aren't seeing it, since you hosted last game. Look how wildly different Nyght's approach to this game is than last and look at how Nyght is responding to my reads. I think those two things make Nyght clear cut town here.

I know I wasn't there for the last game in question, but I've definitely suggested to teammates that they change up their usual style if I know how they play, just to throw people off, nevermind doing so myself.  Different behavior on Day 1 is not nearly enough to draw good conclusions.

Oh, damn, I think I've been fundamentally misreading something. Do we have linked defenders?

I interpreted it as such... @Michi?

Colberius I would have kept you in the null category based on your first post but you're a town lean for me now. And to answer your question, it's because I originally started playing mafia on discord servers where players might post only 2 relevant lines of information in an entire game and I eventually learned how to (at least attempt to) read into that (and my reads are weak at this stage to be completely honest which is why so many people are just in the nulls category).

Makes sense. I was more asking how to interpret the list, though. Obviously it's Town/Null/Scum, but does the order matter?

An offer I can't refuse! Don't expect much though lol.

Spoiler

Legacy of Smiles

TGN
NyghtOwl
Laurentus

Eastern New England
Anubhav Ghosh
Sapphiron
Everybody who hasn't been in the thread
taulover
Gerrick

Doc

So, like, 3 town reads and 1 scum read right now and everyone else especially I'd want to see more from. I'll probably explain my reads later but I want to see more people form their opinions without giving them chance to copy mine first (accidentally or on purpose).

Anything you have so far, TGN?

Also...
Vote: Doc

I know you're holding off on explaining your reasoning, understandably, but how do you even read this in the first place?

And I've posted now; where do I belong? 

Colberius X and Sapphiron, am I Town, scum or null to you?

To me? Null.

Back in the old days, I just had to assume you were scum until you killed me or we were together in the Seer's group chat. 

Now, I'm honestly so out of practice that I'm just hesitant to draw conclusions. (At least, not ones I feel strongly enough to share.) I feel like a new player again, especially with all of you guys' reads lists and fancy abbreviations. 

Hmm, Doc beat me to pointing out the lack of BSR! Lau, did you neglect to mention BSR because you genuinely forgot him, or because your roles are connected by PM and he's been active there? I wonder...

Because he hasn't yet posted (and I know that my family is particularly dangerous) I will Vote: Make BraveSirRobin leave.

So yeah, I'm not getting the same vibe that you're getting from Colby, Anu. He hasn't made a push against anyone, (which I can't immediately recall whether it should be cause for concern with him or not, and come to think, I don't think I've seen him as a Wolf) and it's clear he voted for BraveSirRobin to simply pressure him into speaking.

The vote post from Colberius X certainly seems a push against you , if not , then a soft try to get you into a soft claim stuff . The other obvious option is trying to distance , and the way he asked you about link to BSR , on relatively miniscule miss seems out of place .

Laurentus, I think you'd be surprised how towny you're playing.

Also, Sapph, read D1 and Anu's reaction to me voting for Gerrick specifically again, and honestly, if you don't figure out from that why I'm not lynching Anu, then you're probably scum.

Not sure what exactly you want me to look at, besides him calling you out for fallacious reasoning of “preemptive defensiveness” when Gerrick is doing his D1 random vote like a lot of us do. Though I can see why that would give you some pause.

If Lau turns out scum , then I will consider LoS as a scum , and stay put on Nyght being scum. Colberius is a persistent scum for me

Walk me through your thought-process here.

6-7 almost inactive players , experienced coming up occasionally , what else is a better place for a scum duo to exercise influence and turn the wagons over . Also the way you misinterpreted my words , and used my inexperience as a tool for your read of mine , saying that I was not able to articulate myself and hence could not come up with a well organised statement to accuse you(dangerous townie as you said) hard , it seems that you want to subdue my thoughts

Sapph, bit of a random question but when we came on at EoD1 and you offered to help vote on somebody, who would you have agreed to vote if I'd have suggested them?

Also, Sapph, read D1 and Anu's reaction to me voting for Gerrick specifically again, and honestly, if you don't figure out from that why I'm not lynching Anu, then you're probably scum.

Not sure what exactly you want me to look at, besides him calling you out for fallacious reasoning of “preemptive defensiveness” when Gerrick is doing his D1 random vote like a lot of us do. Though I can see why that would give you some pause.

Not just random , he did show a casual reason as well , just like he did with Michi last time , calling him a bad person , and this time , like a six-year old craving for revenge just because someone beat him at a game of rock-paper-scissors . This seems normal , don't you think the same ?

Sapph, bit of a random question but when we came on at EoD1 and you offered to help vote on somebody, who would you have agreed to vote if I'd have suggested them?

Literally anyone who has already posted on the thread

Not just random , he did show a casual reason as well , just like he did with Michi last time , calling him a bad person , and this time , like a six-year old craving for revenge just because someone beat him at a game of rock-paper-scissors . This seems normal , don't you think the same ?

Yeah that’s Gerrick’s D1 gimmick

Only reason I brought up BSR after his absence from the list was mentioned was that I was working on that message before Doc posted, and got that "Warning - new reply" message when I went to post. Because it was a pair of Valerians, notably my son and brother, I wanted to give them a hard time about it regardless.

Anu, everything I say or do in Werewolf is a push against Laurentus, though usually not particularly seriously. We've been burned by each other too many times before.

Laurentus, my gut is leaning towards town for you. Not strongly, but definitely town.

Only reason I brought up BSR after his absence from the list was mentioned was that I was working on that message before Doc posted, and got that "Warning - new reply" message when I went to post. Because it was a pair of Valerians, notably my son and brother, I wanted to give them a hard time about it regardless.

Anu, everything I say or do in Werewolf is a push against Laurentus, though usually not particularly seriously. We've been burned by each other too many times before.

Laurentus, my gut is leaning towards town for you. Not strongly, but definitely town.

Did you check that warning stuff before you posted the content of that post ?

Sapph, bit of a random question but when we came on at EoD1 and you offered to help vote on somebody, who would you have agreed to vote if I'd have suggested them?

Literally anyone who has already posted on the thread

Great!

Only reason I brought up BSR after his absence from the list was mentioned was that I was working on that message before Doc posted, and got that "Warning - new reply" message when I went to post. Because it was a pair of Valerians, notably my son and brother, I wanted to give them a hard time about it regardless.

Anu, everything I say or do in Werewolf is a push against Laurentus, though usually not particularly seriously. We've been burned by each other too many times before.

Laurentus, my gut is leaning towards town for you. Not strongly, but definitely town.

Did you check that warning stuff before you posted the content of that post ?

Hmm, Doc beat me to pointing out the lack of BSR! Lau, did you neglect to mention BSR because you genuinely forgot him, or because your roles are connected by PM and he's been active there? I wonder...

Because he hasn't yet posted (and I know that my family is particularly dangerous) I will Vote: Make BraveSirRobin leave.