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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

Why would you switch to Ruguo if you're scum reading Vro?

I wouldn't, although Ruguo is leaning scum for me as well, so I wouldn't care much. But also to prove I'm not tied to Ruguo as Red alleges here:

As a finishing statement, I dislike how easily people are finding it to vote me, especially since beyond my flip-floppiness (which is NAI) I've drawn people out the most and generally have pried for answers as a townie should. My logic has been consistent with no errors I can see, the only real attack against me is a convoluted WIFOM reasoning. Certain players it appears have adopted a line of thinking in which they tunnel onto me with the assumption that I'm scum, which while useful at times for considering possible motivations and links, should NOT be the only perspective one takes of a single player for an entire phase.

More town points for Vro as everything he says here I covered already or agree with. Especially his point about the convoluted WIFOM reasoning. I expect far more deductive and logical play from Gerrick, which is why his jump makes me so suspicious. One thing that also worries me is Minish is far, far better than all of us, and they can easily fly under anybodys radar. Melehan who I strongly think is town seems to be the only person who's actually "scum-hunting". If they find something sus with Minish, there is probably something to be worried about. I'd almost say Minish, Ruguo and Gerrick are 3/4 of our wolves, but I won't go that far yet.

Ok if you're willing to prove it, then do it.

@Melehan

You don't have to be
voting someone to be setting up a mislynch. In fact it's better for scum to have people around that they continuously put suspicion on so that they have more set up mislynches later on. You wouldn't try to lynch me now when there are clearly better mislynch targets that are being talked about.


Also, I don't go for easy lynches as scum. If I were scum I would actually want to keep them around. It's good distraction and tbh I wouldn't worry about someone like TGN or Michi sussing me out over Hapi or Vro/Silver.

And how are you gonna say I've hopped on another sure train that YOU'RE voting as well and I broke a tie?

I'm definitely not going to try lynching you this close to EOD.

That aside, I voted for Ruguo because I had the most concrete evidence on them. I wasn't expecting to start a train, and the speed at which the Ruguo Wagon picked up steam indicates that there's at least one Wolf on board, if not more. But what's really interesting to me is how many people on the Ruguo and Vro Wagons now started on the TGN Wagon.

Well alright then.

Vote: Ruguo

Ok if you're willing to prove it, then do it.

And things like this are why I can't decide if you're actually Town or not.

Lol that's a powerwolf move isn't it?

@Melehan

You don't have to be
voting someone to be setting up a mislynch. In fact it's better for scum to have people around that they continuously put suspicion on so that they have more set up mislynches later on. You wouldn't try to lynch me now when there are clearly better mislynch targets that are being talked about.


Also, I don't go for easy lynches as scum. If I were scum I would actually want to keep them around. It's good distraction and tbh I wouldn't worry about someone like TGN or Michi sussing me out over Hapi or Vro/Silver.

And how are you gonna say I've hopped on another sure train that YOU'RE voting as well and I broke a tie?

I'm definitely not going to try lynching you this close to EOD.

That aside, I voted for Ruguo because I had the most concrete evidence on them. I wasn't expecting to start a train, and the speed at which the Ruguo Wagon picked up steam indicates that there's at least one Wolf on board, if not more. But what's really interesting to me is how many people on the Ruguo and Vro Wagons now started on the TGN Wagon.

Your vote analysis isn't that concrete, especially considering I know I'm town and know that you're wrong on me. Just using voting patterns is an easy thing for scum to hide behind.

I voted for Ruguo for reasons I've already stated which include his tone feeling different than his town tone. Where generally he seems much more unsure of himself. And him throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Having actual reason behind voting someone is much stronger than voting patterns.

Lol that's a powerwolf move isn't it?

It very much is. Haha.

Also usually town wants people to vote with who they suspect is most scummy. Not vote to try to gain town cred.

Haha, that's a fair point. All I can say is I'm not good enough for that. If Laurentus couldn't succesfully do it (see WW 21), I most definitely can't. I'd like to see Ruguo lynched, and we're only one vote from that. I'm trying to solidify the lead.

It's quite amusing that I'm being considered as a powerwolf this game because it would be a very sad powerwolfing for me if so. Haha.

Lol that's a powerwolf move isn't it?

Yes, and there's a few reasons why:

It makes you look super certain that Ruguo will flip red, which is saying a lot coming from me, the person who sussed Ruguo hard enough to convince a lot of you to vote Ruguo.

Gerrick switching votes now also doesn't necessarily prove anything, except that he's pretty sure you at least at Town, which points to him more likely being Wolf than not this early in the game. Which, if you are a Wolf, could be a ploy to clear you as Town in the eyes of the rest of the Town. Which makes me unsure that you are actually Town.

@Melehan

You don't have to be
voting someone to be setting up a mislynch. In fact it's better for scum to have people around that they continuously put suspicion on so that they have more set up mislynches later on. You wouldn't try to lynch me now when there are clearly better mislynch targets that are being talked about.


Also, I don't go for easy lynches as scum. If I were scum I would actually want to keep them around. It's good distraction and tbh I wouldn't worry about someone like TGN or Michi sussing me out over Hapi or Vro/Silver.

And how are you gonna say I've hopped on another sure train that YOU'RE voting as well and I broke a tie?

I'm definitely not going to try lynching you this close to EOD.

That aside, I voted for Ruguo because I had the most concrete evidence on them. I wasn't expecting to start a train, and the speed at which the Ruguo Wagon picked up steam indicates that there's at least one Wolf on board, if not more. But what's really interesting to me is how many people on the Ruguo and Vro Wagons now started on the TGN Wagon.

Your vote analysis isn't that concrete, especially considering I know I'm town and know that you're wrong on me. Just using voting patterns is an easy thing for scum to hide behind.

I voted for Ruguo for reasons I've already stated which include his tone feeling different than his town tone. Where generally he seems much more unsure of himself. And him throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Having actual reason behind voting someone is much stronger than voting patterns.

I don't disagree with anything you said here.

Lol that's a powerwolf move isn't it?

Yes, and there's a few reasons why:

It makes you look super certain that Ruguo will flip red, which is saying a lot coming from me, the person who sussed Ruguo hard enough to convince a lot of you to vote Ruguo.

Gerrick switching votes now also doesn't necessarily prove anything, except that he's pretty sure you at least at Town, which points to him more likely being Wolf than not this early in the game. Which, if you are a Wolf, could be a ploy to clear you as Town in the eyes of the rest of the Town. Which makes me unsure that you are actually Town.

Eh, I didn't vote for Ruguo because of you, considering I was already sus enough of them to vote for them D1. Plus I created an entire post about them reading through the game independently of you. And I'm aware that doesn't prove much for Gerrick, since Ruguo is already in the lead, but like I said, I'm solidifying the lead. I'm more sure of Ruguo than Vro, so I would rather see Ruguo lynched over Vro.

I'm wondering where @Wischland has popped off to. I expect at least a decent-lengthed post at the start of D3 with the assumption you won't make it back by EoD.

Lol that's a powerwolf move isn't it?

Yes, and there's a few reasons why:

It makes you look super certain that Ruguo will flip red, which is saying a lot coming from me, the person who sussed Ruguo hard enough to convince a lot of you to vote Ruguo.

Gerrick switching votes now also doesn't necessarily prove anything, except that he's pretty sure you at least at Town, which points to him more likely being Wolf than not this early in the game. Which, if you are a Wolf, could be a ploy to clear you as Town in the eyes of the rest of the Town. Which makes me unsure that you are actually Town.

That...is an interesting analysis. I think maybe our clash here is difference in playstyles.

Because what was "powerwolfing" about that to me would be that Red knows Silver would flip town. Powerwolfing isn't getting your own scumbud lynched, it's taking control and causing mislynches.

And I don't think it would point towards Gerrick knowing he's town. If Gerrick were scum here it would point to him either knowing both wagons are town/town or him lynching a scumbud for town cred.