For now I will
vote: Doc, because I believe that the case against him is getting stronger and stronger. To restate that case...he basically foreshadowed what ended up happening between TGN and Ruguo, yet his actions were the opposite of what he claimed that situation would mean when he stated it. He strongly pushed a TGN/Vro wolf connection across multiple turns that didn't pan out, at least when it comes to TGN. Now we learn that that he's been on every winning wagon in the game so far except for the one that ended up being the wolf.
As far as Werewolf goes, I think that's a fairly strong case. Hopefully I can make at least another post or two before the end of the extended phase, so I'm not saying it's a final vote.
I think the BSR post where he casted suspicion on two people who are proven town now is interesting, but I would like to hear more (and if I missed more in his case than I'd like to see it and apologize).
I don't necessarily find Michi suspicious or not suspicious, but I can confirm that he's had issues with low-quality internet that's being aggravated by weather, so his inactivity at the moment in itself isn't suspicious to me.
I’m not going to be here listening people sussing me when I pinkie promised being town. I don’t think yall realize how much I value that. umu
Doesn't it defeat the purpose of the game if you have a way to make it obvious and certain to everyone that you're town? If everyone did that...well, we'd have no game.
Moot: Quite suspicious voting , total disregard for PR softening .
I've already explained my vote on Sapphiron, and continue to be amazed that "I'm worth more to town dead than alive" should be taken to mean so much from someone that was in danger of being killed off. It could just as easily have been said from a wolf trying to save their ass...Ex and his pinkie promises aside, there's no guarantee that someone is being honest when they say something like that, especially when they have a motive to say anything to keep from being killed.
Also the fact that Moot tried to pull Doc into the scum soup , seems strange to me, because I feel Sapph indicated TGN , and he used that possibly to prevent his own lynch and get TGN wagon running . Doc doesn't seem an issue.
Doc: Sapph said about consecutive wolf possibility , which makes me feel Doc might be a scum. This is a weak lead to me though , but there is no harm in mentioning.
So is that that he might be scum or that he doesn't seem an issue? Funny that you seem to change your mind on Doc when you decide that being suspicious of him is a reason for suspicion. I have repeatedly posted my reasoning (which didn't even include the fact that he was on every town wagon and not on the 1 wolf wagon, which someone only realized today), and there was more to it than simply what Sapph said.
Maybe the softening was too soft that it seemed scum , but it was NOT a risk worth taking as a townie i would say
When was it ever going to be worth tasking a risk? It's not like we were ever going to know for sure...at the end of the day, no matter when the vote came up, you were either going to believe that Sapph was hinting at being a power role or throwing out a generic defense to save his ass. I feel like what you're saying is an easy thing to say in hindsight when we know the result, not so much at the moment that it's happening.
, and the fact that Moot has been a discussion topic everyday and has not been a topic while voting makes me feel that scums are diluting suspicion that has accumulated on him , so the early wagon might work as a reminder , "OK, so its time to bring in Moot now on the voting table from the discussion table. "
Isn't this the reasoning that was used with TGN this game, or Vro early on last game?
-Wintermoot: I agree with him about Sapphiron's D3 softing being so soft it could be wolfy (partly why I didn't switch to defend Sapph). His comments on Doc's TGN-Ruguo/TGN-Vro connection theories, however, aren't really straight as he defends TGN D2 and D3 (saying he's just immature and Ruguo being wolf clears him as town per Doc's theory) then votes for him D4, although his reasoning on D4 could sorta makes sense in that he wanted to expose a possible distancing attempt by Doc from TGN and didn't want to start a vanity wagon against Doc right before EoD when TGN's and Kane's wagons were tied (he did start such a vanity wagon on D5, though, but I suppose he didn't need to vote Kane (the only other larger wagon) since his wagon was much smaller than Kane's and Kane didn't look particularly scummy to me).
During the last few days I've only been able to contribute late in the phase, and given the number of people to consider and being so late to reply, I thought it would be wise to vote on one of the existing wagons because it was too late to make a difference otherwise...first Sapph vs TGN, then TGN vs Kane, and if we want to extend it to yesterday Kane vs myself. In the first two cases I think I even said if I had to choose between the two of them when voting. I know I'm town (talk about generic defenses, lol), and I didn't suspect Kane at all (and now we know he was town), so I had no choice but to vote for someone else and I returned to my previous philosophy of voting for the person I feel is most suspicious regardless.
But the fact of the matter, everyone that's been wagoned toward the end of the last three days has been proven to be town (except for me, of course), and now I feel my logic in voting on existing wagons over people I feel to be more suspicious was incorrect.
