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I detect a tone, Hapi, lol.

Power-wolfing is also called open-wolfing, because whenever you see it, literally everyone in spec chat screams that the person is a Wolf, many of the players who clearly see they're wolves are simply just killed, and the remaining players don't do anything because they're just like "there's no goddamned way that a Wolf would be this Wolfy."

Except wouldn't a power wolf who's been targeted since D1 relentlessly maybe change their playstyle so as not to get themselves killed when it became apparent it wasn't working?

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I played a game where someone open wolfed since D1. They straight up said I'm Wolf. Well mafia but same idea.

Difference is they were never really pressured.

I detect a tone, Hapi, lol.

Power-wolfing is also called open-wolfing, because whenever you see it, literally everyone in spec chat screams that the person is a Wolf, many of the players who clearly see they're wolves are simply just killed, and the remaining players don't do anything because they're just like "there's no goddamned way that a Wolf would be this Wolfy."

Except wouldn't a power wolf who's been targeted since D1 relentlessly maybe change their playstyle so as not to get themselves killed when it became apparent it wasn't working?

No, because that inconsistency would get called out immediately. It's a high-risk high-reward style that requires your full commitment, otherwise it will fail.

Maybe but your dead anyways at this point might as well try... but I just think different.

Well let's see what happens...

I'm aware that I might be bending evidence to fit my theories, and not letting the evidence guide me, but that's why I asked Vro to ISO me. I need to see a Townie progression, at this point.

Lau's read list, as requested.
also making a callout post on my twitter.com, do this seriously, dammit
PS: what the fuck y'all 17 posts while I was writing this what the fuck is wrong with you all

1)
Me (Obviously, but not a very useful read for anyone else)

2)
Daws (should notionally be a lock, but I can't shake the possibility that he got rezzed as a Wraith; it's almost unheard of for a human in LOTR canon to come back from the dead (the sole exception: Beren, and that was direct intervention from the gods) without being one of the Nine, and Theoden fits the profile as a Mortal King. If he was revealed as Gandalf I'd accept it out-and-out as just 'Gandalf's power', since he comes back as Gandalf the White after his mutual kill with the Balrog, but...Theoden??? Then again, I may be reading too much into the roles, but knowing Silv was involved with this game I have no doubt that roles are strongly suggestive of the powers they possess)
TGN + Turtle (just staggering displays of 'I am very new to this game and overwhelmed, which suggests I am not receiving outside help, as I might be if I were a Wolf')

3)
Sapphiron (downgraded from 2) earlier because on a gut-check, I didn't really have any valid reason to assign him core)
Lau + Vro (I am convinced y'all are just town-eating-town right now, because this screams too wolfy etc. etc.)
Wintermoot (on reflection me and him seem to gun for each other a lot when we're both town and it's time to end this cycle of town-killing-town violence)

4)
Hapi (because she is mechanically identical to 1 and 7 simultaneously, which averages out to 4)
Wischland (until I get something substantive from the other TKIers to back them up, I just have no sense of their meta and that worries me a little too much; they've been very helpful thus far but without knowledge of how to read their tells I just don't know squat)
ogun (crippling lack of info)
ENE, Flying Eagles, HumanSanity, Wille-Harlia (the Other TKIers) (y'all, I basically haven't heard diddly from you; WH did chime in with some reads earlier, Flying Eagles is starting to weigh in, HumanSanity is hopefully less busy now so this hopefully changes in the near future)
Dawcreek (no info - literally not a single post, which ordinarily would make me suspicious that he's trynna lurk but the very limited-use meta I have from Spyfall suggests he also gets avoidant when there's information overload)
newvitalania (no posts, no meta, not fair to assume one way for Daw and another way for someone else)

5)
Michi (I just have a gut feeling you're a wolf trying to ride herd and follow the Vro-Lau war into a mislynch)
Gerrick (same reasoning as Michi, albeit with a little more guilt since you made a valid point that it was damned-if-you-did, damned if you didn't; that's Werewolf, baby)
BSR (this actually has little to do with where your vote landed, since you were the first one on the wagon, but rather how you came at it, which was application of RNGesus; that gives us no useful information to work off of and gives you the handy get-out-of-jail clause of 'well I just rolled the dice'; I hate it and I'd rather not buy it. You'd probably frankly get a pass if that vote hadn't lynched town but now that it did, it just tickles the 'I don't care who dies because they're all town' sort of sense)

6)
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7)
Hapi (she is maximum chaotic and that's super dangerous)

If it's a power inherent to Daws as being a king, then I don't understand why this would fall to Theoden, frankly, especially because of narrative reasons. Theoden didn't come back as a wraith.

But that's beside the point, really. Daws is Lock-town, and that's that, until someone scans him and finds otherwise.

Also, @Doc, an interesting opportunity I thought of now: you've played scum with both Sapph and Gerrick. How would you characterise their scum styles, and do they have any tells?

Lau's read list, as requested.
also making a callout post on my twitter.com, do this seriously, dammit
PS: what the fuck y'all 17 posts while I was writing this what the fuck is wrong with you all

1)
Me (Obviously, but not a very useful read for anyone else)

2)
Daws (should notionally be a lock, but I can't shake the possibility that he got rezzed as a Wraith; it's almost unheard of for a human in LOTR canon to come back from the dead (the sole exception: Beren, and that was direct intervention from the gods) without being one of the Nine, and Theoden fits the profile as a Mortal King. If he was revealed as Gandalf I'd accept it out-and-out as just 'Gandalf's power', since he comes back as Gandalf the White after his mutual kill with the Balrog, but...Theoden??? Then again, I may be reading too much into the roles, but knowing Silv was involved with this game I have no doubt that roles are strongly suggestive of the powers they possess)
TGN + Turtle (just staggering displays of 'I am very new to this game and overwhelmed, which suggests I am not receiving outside help, as I might be if I were a Wolf')

3)
Sapphiron (downgraded from 2) earlier because on a gut-check, I didn't really have any valid reason to assign him core)
Lau + Vro (I am convinced y'all are just town-eating-town right now, because this screams too wolfy etc. etc.)
Wintermoot (on reflection me and him seem to gun for each other a lot when we're both town and it's time to end this cycle of town-killing-town violence)

4)
Hapi (because she is mechanically identical to 1 and 7 simultaneously, which averages out to 4)
Wischland (until I get something substantive from the other TKIers to back them up, I just have no sense of their meta and that worries me a little too much; they've been very helpful thus far but without knowledge of how to read their tells I just don't know squat)
ogun (crippling lack of info)
ENE, Flying Eagles, HumanSanity, Wille-Harlia (the Other TKIers) (y'all, I basically haven't heard diddly from you; WH did chime in with some reads earlier, Flying Eagles is starting to weigh in, HumanSanity is hopefully less busy now so this hopefully changes in the near future)
Dawcreek (no info - literally not a single post, which ordinarily would make me suspicious that he's trynna lurk but the very limited-use meta I have from Spyfall suggests he also gets avoidant when there's information overload)
newvitalania (no posts, no meta, not fair to assume one way for Daw and another way for someone else)

5)
Michi (I just have a gut feeling you're a wolf trying to ride herd and follow the Vro-Lau war into a mislynch)
Gerrick (same reasoning as Michi, albeit with a little more guilt since you made a valid point that it was damned-if-you-did, damned if you didn't; that's Werewolf, baby)
BSR (this actually has little to do with where your vote landed, since you were the first one on the wagon, but rather how you came at it, which was application of RNGesus; that gives us no useful information to work off of and gives you the handy get-out-of-jail clause of 'well I just rolled the dice'; I hate it and I'd rather not buy it. You'd probably frankly get a pass if that vote hadn't lynched town but now that it did, it just tickles the 'I don't care who dies because they're all town' sort of sense)

6)
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7)
Hapi (she is maximum chaotic and that's super dangerous)

I feel extremely special thank you ^^

Eek I don’t usually do this kind of listing so early into the game, where usually all we are working with is random voting and flawed speculation which can lead to spectacularly wrong reads. Furthermore, I don’t show my aggressive side until I have reasonable grounds to do so, either to pounce on the trail of a well-hidden wolf or defend myself against misled mob lynching. So here’s a preliminary list I suppose.

Town Core
Daws (Under normal circumstances, I would have put him under Lock-Town but Ruguo’s shenanigans have made me extremely sensitive to potential of role alignment changes)
Town Lean
Hapi (Partly meta-read, partly instinct that it does not make sense to claim a character role as opposed to a particular power since someone can jump in to contradict very easily)
Wischland (Have not seen reasoning that is particularly off from how a Town would read)
Null
Lau (Well he is a Magnificent Bastard, whether he is town-aligned or wolf-aligned he will usually lead the discussions unless game mechanics suddenly prove otherwise)
ENE, Flying Eagles, HumanSanity, Wille-Harlia, Turtle (really scarce information to work with, possibility of general regional playstyle differences)
Vroendal (Does have an unusual amount of conviction in defending TGN, Hapi and myself but at the same time put into the hotseat by Lau, for which explaining his reasoning kind of give a more than proportionate confident impression)
BSR (I only have a random vote to work with)
Newvitalania (absolute silence)
Scum Lean:
Gerrick (Lurky Wolf playstyle with semi-understandable semi-questionable accusations)
TGN (Easy beginner Wolf mistake to see a convenient bandwagon and jump in)
Moot (Tends to adopt a more aggressive role as a Wolf than as a Town)

With reference to above, Vote: Gerrick

Vote The Greenlandic North

Please give me a valid reason why
also its TGN now

Vote The Greenlandic North

Please give me a valid reason why
also its TGN now

They've unvoted. Its clear they're new and overwhelmed

Vote The Greenlandic North

Please give me a valid reason why
also its TGN now

They've unvoted. Its clear they're new and overwhelmed

oh

@turtle me too

just not as overwhelmed