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Obviously, if the resuscitator and Dawsinian were both wolves, I could see why Dawsinian would get resuscitated. But for a townie resuscitator to go against the vote of the town and resuscitate Dawsinian. That seems somewhat less likely.

I have no idea what you mean by this... First of all, we definitely know that Daws was a town, idk why you would bring up if he was a wolf. Secondly, town doesn't ever MEAN to kill a fellow town, why wouldn't a town resuscitate a town, and a sufficiently useful role at that? Also, it's bold of you to assume that I'm not a wolf, why did you say that it's the "vote of the town"?

Didn’t realize the colour revealed the alignment.

There will be no more free passes today.

I want everyone to make a reads list, and it should be constructed as follows:

1. Lock-town at the top. Lock-town, for those unfamiliar with the term, refers to someone you can mechanically clear as Town. These are the Townies who will never be in anyone's PoE (or Process of Elimination) ever, either because a confirmed Seer has declared them as such, or some other game mechanic, like a resurrection, has brought back a confirmed dead Townie.

2. Town core. These are the people you have the most overwhelming Townie vibes for, either because of really good votes that led to scum dying, or the Towniest thought process in the game.

3. Town-leans. These are the people you've either gut-read, or have found some plausible evidence for, but people who are not quite as cut-and-dried as the Town core.

4. Nulls. All the people which you don't have enough info for yet, to make a determination about whether they are part of either alignment.

5. Scum-leans. Like Town-leans, but acummier.

6. Just good old fashioned, rotten-to-the-core scum. These are the people with the scummiest motivations and actions, such as voting patterns. They are the scum equivalent of the Town core.

7. Lock-scum. People mechanically revealed as being scum. The people you just throw onto the pyre and forget about.

Okay, so now that I've made it through the night phase, I'm ready to start playing this game in earnest.

You have been gunning for me like a madman the whole damn day phase, and I am not going to put up with it again.

As to your question, I weighed things in my heart about Michi, and came to that conclusion after seeing the last-minute switcharoo you did.

I am pretty sure I have a significant portion of this game figured out.

Daws, you have been given an amazing gift, and it is now the town's job to keep you alive and well, because you are that rarest of beasts: someone we can mechanically clear as lock-town. You will never have to worry about being suspected again, and as such, yours is the only perspective that we know comes from Town.

We need to start building a town core, and mine is as follows:

1. Daws at the head
2. Gerrick. Might seem like an odd choice, but well, I have reasons.
3. BSR. Also for reasons.

Come out, wolfies. I dare you to try and case this.

Now for my vote: Vroendal. You have had goddamned awful reasoning literally from the moment you started casing me, and you have not improved.

Additionally, your vote for Daws came literally out of nowhere, and you tried to inspire as much paranoia as you possibly could at the end of the phase, while failing to provide substantive reasoning for your sudden suspicion on Wintermoot. You, sir, are an opportunist and anarchist, and I'm not going to put up with it again.

Alright Lau, that didn't come as a surprise but still, ouchie.
On the contrary, the only part where I "gunned" for you was when you talked about Hapi being scanned, and when I brought up that your position as a town leader was one to be wary of, never ONCE did I accuse you or bring up specifically that you have a very likely possibility of BEING a wolf in this game until just now. I've said I've town-read you basically the whole game. I on the other hand have been defending myself from your dogged inquiries, if anyone can be said to be gunning the most, I'd say it's you. Were they justified inquiries? Yes, they were. I can admit that I've been a bad player, and my reasoning has been flawed. I'm still learning, and I'll take this game as experience to heart.

As for Michi, to be honest I find your claim about weighing things only after a little doubtful, especially when it came so soon after the results. Can I really believe that you genuinely didn't consider anything like that? Mayeb not. As for your reads, I don't have anything to say about them, except to ask where would you place yourself in this "town core"?

Your vote comes as no surprise, frankly I deserve it. However, I would say that my latest post has nothing wrong with it logically or as a possibility, I don't see why it should specifically break the camels back as it were. Did I push for you as a WW last game? Sure. I think I've had better reasoning this game around though ngl.

I've explained my reasoning as to Daws crystal-clear, the way in which it "came out of nowhere" was the timing, not because it was a bad vote. I challenge you to prove to me what was wrong with it considering the reasons I gave. As for paranoia, I don't think it's unusual to be paranoid in WW, especially D1 when there are so many possibilities. I merely stated my observations. My Wintermoot suspicion was I think a mistake on my part, at least voicing it aloud. I did however provide reasoning, if not substantive. I'm willing to reconsider everything I've said or think, always.

Am I an opportunist? Yeah, I say that's a fair assessment. Am I an anarchist? Frankly I don't really know what that means in this game. Do I necessarily want there to be a clear leader with no proof? No, I don't see why that should ever be a thing when you can make your own judgments. Am I saying that Daws is not a worthy leader at this point? NO, I quite agree that he should be.

I'm not a fan of the way I've played either, and if you're a townie, I do understand.
However, if I consider the alternative, you are one great actor. I hope the rest of you town can understand what I am trying to say. And barring the many mistakes I've made, I don't see myself necessarily playing in a "scummy" way. Maybe that's just my playstyle, I don't know.

I'm going to wait to vote, there's still time to consider.

1) Myself (because ofc), Daws
2) TGN
3) Hapi, Doc, Sapph, Wisch, BSR, Michi
4) Moot, Willie, newvit, ogun, Daw, ENE, turtle, Human
5) Lau(?), Flying
6) No clear reads
7) N/A

1) Myself (because ofc), Daws
2) TGN
3) Hapi, Doc, Sapph, Wisch, BSR, Michi
4) Moot, Willie, newvit, ogun, Daw, ENE, turtle, Human
5) Lau(?), Flying
6) No clear reads
7) N/A

Oh, and Gerrick is supposed to be in 4. I'm struggling the most with reading him right now.

I'm not going to entertain you, Vro, and this appeal to the rest of Town is super LAMIST.

You're also failing my reaction test abysmally. I literally just propped two people I was suspicious of up as my town core (namely BSR and Gerrick), and you didn't even bat an eye.

I'm not going to entertain you, Vro, and this appeal to the rest of Town is super LAMIST.

You're also failing my reaction test abysmally. I literally just propped two people I was suspicious of up as my town core (namely BSR and Gerrick), and you didn't even bat an eye.

Ok.
I'm not going to spar with you on who you think is or isn't town at this point, feels like a waste of time to argue with you about that right now. For Gerrick, because you said you had your own reasons I chose to think you may have used an investigative ability on him, after all I would expect you to do that, especially since you consider me a clear scum anyway. BSR, you know him better than I do, you may have had your own reasons. I've not hated his posts.

Obviously, if the resuscitator and Dawsinian were both wolves, I could see why Dawsinian would get resuscitated. But for a townie resuscitator to go against the vote of the town and resuscitate Dawsinian. That seems somewhat less likely.

I have no idea what you mean by this... First of all, we definitely know that Daws was a town, idk why you would bring up if he was a wolf. Secondly, town doesn't ever MEAN to kill a fellow town, why wouldn't a town resuscitate a town, and a sufficiently useful role at that? Also, it's bold of you to assume that I'm not a wolf, why did you say that it's the "vote of the town"?

I'm super wary of Wintermoot, and quite amusingly, worried that Vro and Moot could be attempting an epic distancing play here. His vote on a dead wagon (well, actually a wagon that didn't even exist until he created it) looks a lot like just placing a very low-risk vote.

Finally, and most amusingly of all, I think Pengu's town. Wolf Pengu doesn't make mistakes of a bussing nature, and would have handled my prodding a lot better. Wolf Pengu doesn't disappear when the going gets tough, either. Town Pengu, on the other hand, very much does.

I have no idea who a potential 4th scum would be, but I don't believe it's Wisch. Sending a Townie over the edge at the last second like that is Wolf suicide of the highest order, but his reasoning for the vote still doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I see I should explain myself better. I had voted for Gerrick specifically to get him to talk more and explain himself for his first vote. No one else saw the need or validity to vote for him, so my vote was basically a useless vote at that point for someone who had answered what I wanted them to.

When I called his analysis fair I was talking about this bit ^. At that point the "main" wagons were still Lau and Michi, Lau is just acting too similar to the last game we played where he was town and hammering me in the way I expected him to that there was no way I was letting him get lynched D1. As for Michi, I just wasn't completely reading scum in his posts, and I myself had noticed he was less active which didn't coincide with the game I played as WW with him. I may be taking time to reconsider but as it stood I wasn't feeling like lynching him either. When a new wagon appeared tying all three, the player I felt least convinced about was Daws. I don't think I'm in the least popular opinion to say that of those three Daws was the best choice to lynch. It would have taken off Lau specifically and Michi as an option and would have given me information if nothing else, possibly lynching a lurking wolf. That sounded like the best odds to me.

First of all, welcome back Daws. I understand that you may be suspicious of me, but I hope you can see the reasoning behind my vote.

Laurentus, the more I think about this, the more I think I have things backwards. You're sussing me, when really I think I should be sussing you, or at least asking you to explain YOUR vote.

When three wagons were up at the same time, why did you stick with Michi? According to you yourself, you were town-leaning Michi, which you said not half an hour after the result was announced, surely you had been thinking that Michi was not the person to go for at least for a while in the back of your mind, knowing you. So what I'm confused about is why DIDN'T you vote Daws? If you think Michi is town, and it is obvious one of you three is going to be lynched, why didn't you go for the player you were least sure of?

Tbh this is making me feel that you and Michi could be going for some sort of play, it would be quite within your capabilities. I wouldn't put it past you to "randomly" vote for a fellow wolf because they had irl obligations to confirm yourself more as town.

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but still I feel I should at least ask. I feel I've explained my vote enough.

Okay, so now that I've made it through the night phase, I'm ready to start playing this game in earnest.

You have been gunning for me like a madman the whole damn day phase, and I am not going to put up with it again.

As to your question, I weighed things in my heart about Michi, and came to that conclusion after seeing the last-minute switcharoo you did.

I am pretty sure I have a significant portion of this game figured out.

Daws, you have been given an amazing gift, and it is now the town's job to keep you alive and well, because you are that rarest of beasts: someone we can mechanically clear as lock-town. You will never have to worry about being suspected again, and as such, yours is the only perspective that we know comes from Town.

We need to start building a town core, and mine is as follows:

1. Daws at the head
2. Gerrick. Might seem like an odd choice, but well, I have reasons.
3. BSR. Also for reasons.

Come out, wolfies. I dare you to try and case this.

Now for my vote: Vroendal. You have had goddamned awful reasoning literally from the moment you started casing me, and you have not improved.

Additionally, your vote for Daws came literally out of nowhere, and you tried to inspire as much paranoia as you possibly could at the end of the phase, while failing to provide substantive reasoning for your sudden suspicion on Wintermoot. You, sir, are an opportunist and anarchist, and I'm not going to put up with it again.

Hey you're smarter than this Lau.

Nobody died last night the wolves had a small ratio at start of game and we commented on that.

Have you not even considered the ressurect could be wolf and change alignment.


Especially since it's canonical.

"They were once men; great kings of men. Then Sauron the Deceiver gave to them nine Rings of Power. Blinded by their greed, they took them without question, one by one falling into darkness. Now they are slaves to his will. They are the Nazgûl: Ringwraiths, neither living nor dead. At all times they feel the presence of the Ring, drawn to the power of the One. They will never stop hunting you."

Obviously, if the resuscitator and Dawsinian were both wolves, I could see why Dawsinian would get resuscitated. But for a townie resuscitator to go against the vote of the town and resuscitate Dawsinian. That seems somewhat less likely.

I have no idea what you mean by this... First of all, we definitely know that Daws was a town, idk why you would bring up if he was a wolf. Secondly, town doesn't ever MEAN to kill a fellow town, why wouldn't a town resuscitate a town, and a sufficiently useful role at that? Also, it's bold of you to assume that I'm not a wolf, why did you say that it's the "vote of the town"?

I'm super wary of Wintermoot, and quite amusingly, worried that Vro and Moot could be attempting an epic distancing play here. His vote on a dead wagon (well, actually a wagon that didn't even exist until he created it) looks a lot like just placing a very low-risk vote.

Finally, and most amusingly of all, I think Pengu's town. Wolf Pengu doesn't make mistakes of a bussing nature, and would have handled my prodding a lot better. Wolf Pengu doesn't disappear when the going gets tough, either. Town Pengu, on the other hand, very much does.

I have no idea who a potential 4th scum would be, but I don't believe it's Wisch. Sending a Townie over the edge at the last second like that is Wolf suicide of the highest order, but his reasoning for the vote still doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I see I should explain myself better. I had voted for Gerrick specifically to get him to talk more and explain himself for his first vote. No one else saw the need or validity to vote for him, so my vote was basically a useless vote at that point for someone who had answered what I wanted them to.

When I called his analysis fair I was talking about this bit ^. At that point the "main" wagons were still Lau and Michi, Lau is just acting too similar to the last game we played where he was town and hammering me in the way I expected him to that there was no way I was letting him get lynched D1. As for Michi, I just wasn't completely reading scum in his posts, and I myself had noticed he was less active which didn't coincide with the game I played as WW with him. I may be taking time to reconsider but as it stood I wasn't feeling like lynching him either. When a new wagon appeared tying all three, the player I felt least convinced about was Daws. I don't think I'm in the least popular opinion to say that of those three Daws was the best choice to lynch. It would have taken off Lau specifically and Michi as an option and would have given me information if nothing else, possibly lynching a lurking wolf. That sounded like the best odds to me.

First of all, welcome back Daws. I understand that you may be suspicious of me, but I hope you can see the reasoning behind my vote.

Laurentus, the more I think about this, the more I think I have things backwards. You're sussing me, when really I think I should be sussing you, or at least asking you to explain YOUR vote.

When three wagons were up at the same time, why did you stick with Michi? According to you yourself, you were town-leaning Michi, which you said not half an hour after the result was announced, surely you had been thinking that Michi was not the person to go for at least for a while in the back of your mind, knowing you. So what I'm confused about is why DIDN'T you vote Daws? If you think Michi is town, and it is obvious one of you three is going to be lynched, why didn't you go for the player you were least sure of?

Tbh this is making me feel that you and Michi could be going for some sort of play, it would be quite within your capabilities. I wouldn't put it past you to "randomly" vote for a fellow wolf because they had irl obligations to confirm yourself more as town.

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but still I feel I should at least ask. I feel I've explained my vote enough.

Okay, so now that I've made it through the night phase, I'm ready to start playing this game in earnest.

You have been gunning for me like a madman the whole damn day phase, and I am not going to put up with it again.

As to your question, I weighed things in my heart about Michi, and came to that conclusion after seeing the last-minute switcharoo you did.

I am pretty sure I have a significant portion of this game figured out.

Daws, you have been given an amazing gift, and it is now the town's job to keep you alive and well, because you are that rarest of beasts: someone we can mechanically clear as lock-town. You will never have to worry about being suspected again, and as such, yours is the only perspective that we know comes from Town.

We need to start building a town core, and mine is as follows:

1. Daws at the head
2. Gerrick. Might seem like an odd choice, but well, I have reasons.
3. BSR. Also for reasons.

Come out, wolfies. I dare you to try and case this.

Now for my vote: Vroendal. You have had goddamned awful reasoning literally from the moment you started casing me, and you have not improved.

Additionally, your vote for Daws came literally out of nowhere, and you tried to inspire as much paranoia as you possibly could at the end of the phase, while failing to provide substantive reasoning for your sudden suspicion on Wintermoot. You, sir, are an opportunist and anarchist, and I'm not going to put up with it again.

Hey you're smarter than this Lau.

Nobody died last night the wolves had a small ratio at start of game and we commented on that.

Have you not even considered the ressurect could be wolf and change alignment.


Especially since it's canonical.

"They were once men; great kings of men. Then Sauron the Deceiver gave to them nine Rings of Power. Blinded by their greed, they took them without question, one by one falling into darkness. Now they are slaves to his will. They are the Nazgûl: Ringwraiths, neither living nor dead. At all times they feel the presence of the Ring, drawn to the power of the One. They will never stop hunting you."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, no.

I have not considered that, because reasons.

The fact that you're trying to bring a lock-town in question is... not a good look.

There will be no more free passes today.

I want everyone to make a reads list, and it should be constructed as follows:

1. Lock-town at the top. Lock-town, for those unfamiliar with the term, refers to someone you can mechanically clear as Town. These are the Townies who will never be in anyone's PoE (or Process of Elimination) ever, either because a confirmed Seer has declared them as such, or some other game mechanic, like a resurrection, has brought back a confirmed dead Townie.

2. Town core. These are the people you have the most overwhelming Townie vibes for, either because of really good votes that led to scum dying, or the Towniest thought process in the game.

3. Town-leans. These are the people you've either gut-read, or have found some plausible evidence for, but people who are not quite as cut-and-dried as the Town core.

4. Nulls. All the people which you don't have enough info for yet, to make a determination about whether they are part of either alignment.

5. Scum-leans. Like Town-leans, but acummier.

6. Just good old fashioned, rotten-to-the-core scum. These are the people with the scummiest motivations and actions, such as voting patterns. They are the scum equivalent of the Town core.

7. Lock-scum. People mechanically revealed as being scum. The people you just throw onto the pyre and forget about.

Why don't you give me your list first?

Simple. I'm still forming it. I've already given my town core.

Maybe it's the fact I've only played super janky games where this is exactly what would happen and that I would in fact design a game with this mechanic as well but why?

What makes you so positive Daws is still town?

You're just going to have to trust me, or the more fun alternative, try and case me and it. I even hope you succeed in lynching me.