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Ngl, I've been big lazy on catching up. Which is probably coming back to bite me in the ass right now. Part of it is that this game allows night talking, which both adds even more posts and would usually just be when I would catch up during quiet time. Part of it is that I have a really hard time analyzing stuff when I have to read it in large amounts. My brain is focused on reading instead of analyzing. Usually if I'm expecting to potentially sub into a game I just keep up from the beginning.

Sorry if I fuck things up because I'm not working with a full picture here. I'll at least try to read everything I haven't and just not worry about quoting and providing commentary.

I want to say that I do not have an investigative role. But due to my role (I guess you would say via passive ability) I knew with absolute 100% certainty that turtle was town. That is the only person I did or will know is town beyond a doubt. And it's a bit of a shame that turtle never posted and also confirm me as town so that y'all could lock me if he flipped.


Ogun flipping Eowyn is kinda why I wanted people to reveal their targets. Because we knew that Laur was visited by Eowyn so I wanted to try to figure out who that could be in a round about way.

There were signs, I just missed them.

I want to say that I do not have an investigative role. But due to my role (I guess you would say via passive ability) I knew with absolute 100% certainty that turtle was town. That is the only person I did or will know is town beyond a doubt. And it's a bit of a shame that turtle never posted and also confirm me as town so that y'all could lock me if he flipped.


Ogun flipping Eowyn is kinda why I wanted people to reveal their targets. Because we knew that Laur was visited by Eowyn so I wanted to try to figure out who that could be in a round about way.

There were signs, I just missed them.

Yeah tbh, I skimmed that one post of ogun's which is unfortunate in hindsight.

Fixed that quote.

I want to say that I do not have an investigative role. But due to my role (I guess you would say via passive ability) I knew with absolute 100% certainty that turtle was town. That is the only person I did or will know is town beyond a doubt. And it's a bit of a shame that turtle never posted and also confirm me as town so that y'all could lock me if he flipped.

I get the sense from this post, the earlier discussion about 2 Seers in communication with each other, and the discussion around Gollum/Smeagol a few rounds ago that there are quite a few paired roles in this game.

I don't know what to make of the results form the day...as I said before, when someone says they've mechanically cleared, we've been taking them at their word. That being said, Sapphiron seems very earnest about his role...or he's a much better actor than I ever gave him credit for. I feel more strongly that he's town seeing how he's responded to suspicion tonight, but obviously I could also be biased as he has claimed to mechanically cleared me.

It was interesting to see how fast Laurentus turned on Sapphiron after trusting him without question for the entire game. I don't know that it means anything, but it seemed kinda vicious.

I get the sense from this post, the earlier discussion about 2 Seers in communication with each other, and the discussion around Gollum/Smeagol a few rounds ago that there are quite a few paired roles in this game.

I don't know what to make of the results form the day...as I said before, when someone says they've mechanically cleared, we've been taking them at their word. That being said, Sapphiron seems very earnest about his role...or he's a much better actor than I ever gave him credit for. I feel more strongly that he's town seeing how he's responded to suspicion tonight, but obviously I could also be biased as he has claimed to mechanically cleared me.

It was interesting to see how fast Laurentus turned on Sapphiron after trusting him without question for the entire game. I don't know that it means anything, but it seemed kinda vicious.

I agree, and it would follow very well canonically. I still personally don't see it likely at all that there is Smeagol as well as Gollum, but hey maybe I'm wrong. I have observed what are likely to be at least 2 all but confirmed pairings at this point, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn there's 4 altogether.

I also will hesitantly agree with your statement regarding Sapph, I've been reading him as town since pretty much the end of day 1, and I think his explanation is creative enough and follows along enough well that I have very little doubt at this point.

I think Lau is honestly just having a case of the extreme paranoia, and I've figured out a few things about him to where I have absolutely no doubt anymore. I think he's town as much as one possibly can, and it helps that he has been mechanically cleared by BSR. I would expect Lau to be this vicious with the game going like this, the question that you've been hoodwinked after what seems an unlikely scenario is very paranoia inducing.

So we've had Theoden, Gollum, Faramir, Eowyn, Gandalf, and Sam flip so far.

Which means we know we at least have these people left:
Frodo
Legolas
Aragorn
Gimli
Merry
Pippin
Boromir

With the amount of people left, half of them have to be these roles. Which leaves 7 unknowns, 4 of those being scum. So we have only 3 non fellowship town (or 3rd party) roles left. Vro seems to be hinting at one of those roles I believe.

Not sure if this helps but it could come in handy later.

So we've had Theoden, Gollum, Faramir, Eowyn, Gandalf, and Sam flip so far.

Which means we know we at least have these people left:
Frodo
Legolas
Aragorn
Gimli
Merry
Pippin
Boromir

With the amount of people left, half of them have to be these roles. Which leaves 7 unknowns, 4 of those being scum. So we have only 3 non fellowship town (or 3rd party) roles left. Vro seems to be hinting at one of those roles I believe.

Not sure if this helps but it could come in handy later.

The 3 left would be my role and the two other bearers of the elven rings. Those are all accounted for.

So we've had Theoden, Gollum, Faramir, Eowyn, Gandalf, and Sam flip so far.

Which means we know we at least have these people left:
Frodo
Legolas
Aragorn
Gimli
Merry
Pippin
Boromir

With the amount of people left, half of them have to be these roles. Which leaves 7 unknowns, 4 of those being scum. So we have only 3 non fellowship town (or 3rd party) roles left. Vro seems to be hinting at one of those roles I believe.

Not sure if this helps but it could come in handy later.

The 3 left would be my role and the two other bearers of the elven rings. Those are all accounted for.

Galadriel is one right? And we think that's who Sapph is?

And the other is Elrond? Who do we think that is?

My LotR knowledge is a bit rusty wasn't super deep to begin with so I may miss some connections.

Galadriel is one right? And we think that's who Sapph is?

And the other is Elrond? Who do we think that is?

My LotR knowledge is a bit rusty wasn't super deep to begin with so I may miss some connections.

If Sapph is to be believed which I am strongly encouraged to do so then yes, Galadriel would work the best being paired with Gandalf. (Passing over any more obvious quotes or the like)

The last one I am the least sure of because he could be lying, but I don't think he would -

Because I have one of the 3.

(In reference to asking which of the rings I have on page 55)

Galadriel is one right? And we think that's who Sapph is?

And the other is Elrond? Who do we think that is?

My LotR knowledge is a bit rusty wasn't super deep to begin with so I may miss some connections.

If Sapph is to be believed which I am strongly encouraged to do so then yes, Galadriel would work the best being paired with Gandalf. (Passing over any more obvious quotes or the like)

The last one I am the least sure of because he could be lying, but I don't think he would -

Because I have one of the 3.

(In reference to asking which of the rings I have on page 55)

Ohh, right. I remembered Laur claiming to have a ring but forgot he said it was one of the 3.

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I want to say that I do not have an investigative role. But due to my role (I guess you would say via passive ability) I knew with absolute 100% certainty that turtle was town. That is the only person I did or will know is town beyond a doubt. And it's a bit of a shame that turtle never posted and also confirm me as town so that y'all could lock me if he flipped.

I get the sense from this post, the earlier discussion about 2 Seers in communication with each other, and the discussion around Gollum/Smeagol a few rounds ago that there are quite a few paired roles in this game.

I don't know what to make of the results form the day...as I said before, when someone says they've mechanically cleared, we've been taking them at their word. That being said, Sapphiron seems very earnest about his role...or he's a much better actor than I ever gave him credit for. I feel more strongly that he's town seeing how he's responded to suspicion tonight, but obviously I could also be biased as he has claimed to mechanically cleared me.

It was interesting to see how fast Laurentus turned on Sapphiron after trusting him without question for the entire game. I don't know that it means anything, but it seemed kinda vicious.

I mean, Sapph said it himself. All's fair in Werewolf, and he still doesn't have anything against me. That doesn't clear me, by any stretch of the imagination, but viciousness is kinda par for the course when I'm suddenly convinced a claim makes no sense. Vro can probably give you a very clear accounting of that, having experienced it first-hand in Portal Werewolf 2.

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