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Werewolf XXIII: A Lord of the Rings Adventure
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  • Woo, there's a lot to dissect here. What planet do you come from where the Wolves would ever betray anything that happened in scum-chay, especially an emotion of all things, to the rest of the thread?
    Bolded portion mine. I know that you're an aggressive player, but do you feel that comment is in the spirit of the Code of Conduct?
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  • Woo, there's a lot to dissect here. What planet do you come from where the Wolves would ever betray anything that happened in scum-chay, especially an emotion of all things, to the rest of the thread?
    Bolded portion mine. I know that you're an aggressive player, but do you feel that comment is in the spirit of the Code of Conduct?

    No, and I apologise, Flying Eagles. I got caught up in the moment and I acted irresponsibly.
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  • I would like to speculate on two interesting players:

    Vronedal: Seemed annoyed at being grouped with the townies and for a wolf to come out and express that seems unlikely but it could just be genuine frustration at me. Leaning townie for me.

    Lau: Has the tone of someone who's really annoyed at something and seems to be trying to seize control of the debate. Either a townie who's helping us focus or a distracting wolf, but the tone perhaps points to the latter, as townies usually sound more cooperative.

    Okay, so now that I've made it through the night phase, I'm ready to start playing this game in earnest.

    Also, some pure speculation but this quote just comes off as weird. It sounds like Lau had an exceptionally tough night and is just happy to have survived it. Could be a townie scared that the wolves were coming after him/her, could be a wolf who was really stressed out debating with the other wolves what to do.

    Woo, there's a lot to dissect here. What planet do you come from where the Wolves would ever betray anything that happened in scum-chay, especially an emotion of all things, to the rest of the thread?

    Also, really? I have just evaded and propped two people I'd previously speculated as being Wolves up as my Town core, and this is what you're trying to sus me for?
    I guess you are right. There's a small possibility that the tone might have been accidentally revealing of the scum-chat, but you seem too experienced for that. Your tone is however making it sound very urgent that we get something done though, does anyone know if his tone is more urgent than usual?

    And I'm still new to this Werewolf thing and play somewhat aggressively myself so I get why you would get frustrated with me.
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  • @Flying Eagles: For what it's worth, Laurentus is usually the take charge and get shit done type. And he's quite good at getting shit done, though you'll have to decide for yourself whether it's for good or evil in this case. :P

    It's not unusual for him, though.
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  • Yeah, before the game I heard that people from XKI were joining, and even said on the Discord that I'd try to be friendlier. I'm actually restraining myself quite a bit most of the time, that restraint failed me when I spoke to you, and once more I apologise.
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  • To answer your question. This is the aggressive Lau I'd expect to see in Werewolf.  I do not think he's behaving strangely for him in any way and I'm mildly leaning town on him right now
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    Why?
    I still don't understand what's going on
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  • Lol. Turtle is Town, everyone.

    Okay, Turtle, let's work through this. What is giving you trouble right now? Maybe we can help. This game is very overwhelming to new players, especially this time around, because there are so many experienced people playing and using a lot of jargon and strategy that has been accrued over years of play, and anyone in your shoes would feel overwhelmed by it.
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  • I'm super wary of Wintermoot, and quite amusingly, worried that Vro and Moot could be attempting an epic distancing play here. His vote on a dead wagon (well, actually a wagon that didn't even exist until he created it) looks a lot like just placing a very low-risk vote.

    Finally, and most amusingly of all, I think Pengu's town. Wolf Pengu doesn't make mistakes of a bussing nature, and would have handled my prodding a lot better. Wolf Pengu doesn't disappear when the going gets tough, either. Town Pengu, on the other hand, very much does.

    I have no idea who a potential 4th scum would be, but I don't believe it's Wisch. Sending a Townie over the edge at the last second like that is Wolf suicide of the highest order, but his reasoning for the vote still doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

    I see I should explain myself better. I had voted for Gerrick specifically to get him to talk more and explain himself for his first vote. No one else saw the need or validity to vote for him, so my vote was basically a useless vote at that point for someone who had answered what I wanted them to.

    When I called his analysis fair I was talking about this bit ^. At that point the "main" wagons were still Lau and Michi, Lau is just acting too similar to the last game we played where he was town and hammering me in the way I expected him to that there was no way I was letting him get lynched D1. As for Michi, I just wasn't completely reading scum in his posts, and I myself had noticed he was less active which didn't coincide with the game I played as WW with him. I may be taking time to reconsider but as it stood I wasn't feeling like lynching him either. When a new wagon appeared tying all three, the player I felt least convinced about was Daws. I don't think I'm in the least popular opinion to say that of those three Daws was the best choice to lynch. It would have taken off Lau specifically and Michi as an option and would have given me information if nothing else, possibly lynching a lurking wolf. That sounded like the best odds to me.

    First of all, welcome back Daws. :) I understand that you may be suspicious of me, but I hope you can see the reasoning behind my vote.

    Laurentus, the more I think about this, the more I think I have things backwards. You're sussing me, when really I think I should be sussing you, or at least asking you to explain YOUR vote.

    When three wagons were up at the same time, why did you stick with Michi? According to you yourself, you were town-leaning Michi, which you said not half an hour after the result was announced, surely you had been thinking that Michi was not the person to go for at least for a while in the back of your mind, knowing you. So what I'm confused about is why DIDN'T you vote Daws? If you think Michi is town, and it is obvious one of you three is going to be lynched, why didn't you go for the player you were least sure of?

    Tbh this is making me feel that you and Michi could be going for some sort of play, it would be quite within your capabilities. I wouldn't put it past you to "randomly" vote for a fellow wolf because they had irl obligations to confirm yourself more as town.

    Maybe I'm overthinking it, but still I feel I should at least ask. I feel I've explained my vote enough.

    Vote: Dawsinian
    Take it how you will. :3

    Thank you for responding Gerrick, I see your rationale.
    Out of everyone up there I feel most comfortable voting Daws. I don't really have a good reason, I think Gerrick's analysis is fair. I would rather he goes instead of the others.

    No, @Vroendal, I don't understand the reasoning for your vote. Up until your vote, we had a three-way tie. Your supporting argument for my vote was that you didn't really have a good reason - you just cited @Gerrick's reasoning and moved on. While most of your posts have been long-winded, your vote for me had just about your shortest reply so far. Knowing that your vote was most likely going to get me lynched, why cast it without an iota of evidence?  Meanwhile, you've been trying to cast doubt on the two people who I'm getting town vibes from (@Laurentus and @Adorable Oracle Hapi).

    Vote: Vroendal

    Also to address my D1 vote: I was simply responding in jest to the whole "no party" comment that Lau made. This is my first werewolf game, so I saw fit to have a little fun since I was sure we would get nowhere day 1. Clearly, I was wrong. I know now not to try and poke fun. Won't happen again. I simply didn't change my vote because once it was evident to me that I had made a mistake, we had a tie. I didn't want to break the tie and cause someone to get lynched who didn't deserve it.
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  • I didn't want to break the tie and cause someone to get lynched who didn't deserve it.

    I guess the challenging thing about Werewolf is that we often have to make 50/50 coin flips on who should get lynched, just because the act of lynching gives so much info compared to no lynching.

    You're doing great, BTW  :)
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  • Lol. Turtle is Town, everyone.

    Okay, Turtle, let's work through this. What is giving you trouble right now? Maybe we can help. This game is very overwhelming to new players, especially this time around, because there are so many experienced people playing and using a lot of jargon and strategy that has been accrued over years of play, and anyone in your shoes would feel overwhelmed by it.
    Thanks for calling me town but I think is more my lack of LOTR knowledge.
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  • Well, it seems like Doc and Hapi are our resident experts on that.
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  • That said, you must have some reason for voting for TGN?
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