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And to Lau, the (fish) soup given to you from who I suppose is Eowyn is from a deleted scene in the movie Lord of the Rings, though I believe it was mentioned in the books.

Well, this quote explains some things.

Otherwise, isoing Ogun reveals they were sus of Michi, then Vro.

Guys, I am inclined to Town read Flying Eagles for this.

Can you explain why?

Also I see you had the same idea about Wisch as I did (didn't wanna quote that whole post). She was softing something along the lines of tracker/watcher the previous day. And the way it happened was in a much more town way. Since it was after Eowyn had already been lynched, so it's not like bringing up an inconsistency then was gonna help get a mislynch. And she was going hard on the fact that something didn't align with her results until suddenly she seemed to realize she had something wrong and dropped it. That seems like an odd scumplay to me, though I can't entirely discount it as scumplay.

Scratch that, Gerrick soft-claimed Legolas, definitely Town, because otherwise I am sure someone would have counterclaimed by now.

Also to @Minish:

If you go take a look at the posts there before the Ogun flip, Flying Eagles actually realised a bit sooner than the rest of us that we were lynching an inno, with not terrible reasoning.

I try to think that I tend to try to be a more careful player, lurking in the shadows and reading people's posts, though that often backfires, like now. Being more willing to accuse someone and then proceed to have your arguments destroyed often makes you more sus. That is probably one of the factors to why TGN is being seen as scum, and the point that he is pretending to be an inexperienced and careless player is interesting to say the least. I think that is also one of my mistakes from not voting in round 1, though I could argue it shows that I try to avoid jumping the bandwagon.

Isn't TGN actually inexperienced and not pretending to be inexperienced?

Actually, if this whole "TGN is inexperienced" thing is a ruse, and Ogun's cooperating with TGN in scum-chat, then publicly exposing it is either incompetence or an attempt to personally get off the hook.

If neither of those scenarios are believable, we likely have to assume Ogun's not a wolf.

Goddammit. @Red Mones or @Ruguo, kindly please fix the format. I am very sorry.

And to Lau, the (fish) soup given to you from who I suppose is Eowyn is from a deleted scene in the movie Lord of the Rings, though I believe it was mentioned in the books.

Well, this quote explains some things.

Otherwise, isoing Ogun reveals they were sus of Michi, then Vro.

Guys, I am inclined to Town read Flying Eagles for this.

Can you explain why?

Also I see you had the same idea about Wisch as I did (didn't wanna quote that whole post). She was softing something along the lines of tracker/watcher the previous day. And the way it happened was in a much more town way. Since it was after Eowyn had already been lynched, so it's not like bringing up an inconsistency then was gonna help get a mislynch. And she was going hard on the fact that something didn't align with her results until suddenly she seemed to realize she had something wrong and dropped it. That seems like an odd scumplay to me, though I can't entirely discount it as scumplay.

Yeah, I see your point. It changes little to my PoE, though.

I'm confident in calling it here: scum rests within the following slots. I cannot see a different world anymore:

TGN
Eastern New England
Wille-Harlia
Flying Eagles
Vroendal

Actually no wait, Doc wth is that claim? Faramir is already dead. :p Newvit was modkilled.

Vote: Doc

Tsk tsk, I thought you were going to lynch me so today. Well my contribution happens to be a scum lock, my town lock remains the 2 I mentioned before

You have no power here, servant of Morgoth!

Vote: Doc

This is an out-and-out stone-cold lie.
In a bid to avert the tragedy that would result, I shall couch a 'reveal' in as poetic language as I can.

I am a son of Gondor, a scion and servant of the White Tower of Ecthelion, and the only reason I've been largely silent is because there were pressing matters which demanded my attention in Ithilien - which is why my brother was sent to Elrond in the first place, Laurentus.
Mark this; the sons of Numenor have many dreams and true visions, and seek to judge right and justly; hence my temperance and good faith thus far.
But I ask that if my brother were to die before I, if you would prefer our places had been exchanged.

That should be clear enough, I think.
Vote: Sapphiron

Tsk tsk, I thought you were going to lynch me so today. Well my contribution happens to be a scum lock, my town lock remains the 2 I mentioned before

You have no power here, servant of Morgoth!

Vote: Doc

This is an out-and-out stone-cold lie.
In a bid to avert the tragedy that would result, I shall couch a 'reveal' in as poetic language as I can.

I am a son of Gondor, a scion and servant of the White Tower of Ecthelion, and the only reason I've been largely silent is because there were pressing matters which demanded my attention in Ithilien - which is why my brother was sent to Elrond in the first place, Laurentus.
Mark this; the sons of Numenor have many dreams and true visions, and seek to judge right and justly; hence my temperance and good faith thus far.
But I ask that if my brother were to die before I, if you would prefer our places had been exchanged.

That should be clear enough, I think.
Vote: Sapphiron

Your defense is basically a "no you!" argument. This is an interesting claim, but why do you think Sapph is lying rather than thinking that perhaps his results were messed with from prediction by scum? It would not be in Sapph's best interest as scum to want to leave even before scanning you, doesn't feel like a scum thing to do. If you flip town, we'll reconsider. What will you say to any possible counter-claim?

Yeah, actually, the timing here removes a lot of my doubt. I still can't figure out who to have higher up in my PoE, though: Vro or Wisch?

@Laurentus I see what you mean now but I'm not inclined to townread him for that. Could have been the advantage of scum having more info (knowing ogun was town) and trying to get a bit of towncred by being hesitant about the lynch. I've certainly done some similar things as scum.

@Laurentus I see what you mean now but I'm not inclined to townread him for that. Could have been the advantage of scum having more info (knowing ogun was town) and trying to get a bit of towncred by being hesitant about the lynch. I've certainly done some similar things as scum.

Yeah, thought something similar upon first read-through, but that's a very good reason not to find Ogun scummy, though.

Coincidentally, what's your PoE looking like?

@Wischland, how many games of Werewolf has Flying Eagles played, and is that type of play typically in his range?

I'm confident in calling it here: scum rests within the following slots. I cannot see a different world anymore:

TGN
Eastern New England
Wille-Harlia
Flying Eagles
Vroendal

My PoE is basically this with Vro removed (at least for now). I wanted to go with Ogun the previous day because Vro seemed to want to lynch them least out of my 3 person PoE at the time. So I figured if Vro were scum ogun might be scum with him, and decided to not follow who he wanted to lynch.

The thing that does make me hesitant about Vro is still that d2 vote. I don't see why so many votes on Michi if Vro is town. Maybe scum just thought Michi was an easier vote to pass off. But both seem like strong players so wanting to get rid of one over the other for something like that doesn't make sense. Especially since you seemingly have all town (and Michi) on Vro's wagon.

I'm confident in calling it here: scum rests within the following slots. I cannot see a different world anymore:

TGN
Eastern New England
Wille-Harlia
Flying Eagles
Vroendal

My PoE is basically this with Vro removed (at least for now). I wanted to go with Ogun the previous day because Vro seemed to want to lynch them least out of my 3 person PoE at the time. So I figured if Vro were scum ogun might be scum with him, and decided to not follow who he wanted to lynch.

The thing that does make me hesitant about Vro is still that d2 vote. I don't see why so many votes on Michi if Vro is town. Maybe scum just thought Michi was an easier vote to pass off. But both seem like strong players so wanting to get rid of one over the other for something like that doesn't make sense. Especially since you seemingly have all town (and Michi) on Vro's wagon.

That, and the Vro wagon typically gets a lot more resistance. All other wagons have people piling up damn fast.

It could just be a timing thing, but yeah.

The recursive reasoning is very strong here, though, because with Vro cooperating with the Town Core for so long, he has not done any scum team any favours here. What benefits the Town Core always, at the end of the day, destroys scum's chances. So he if he is scum, I can only assume that he has elected to have his loss drawn out.

Meh. Maybe we'll get lucky and hit scum within the PoE already outlined, which will save us this headache.

Hapi, I can't defend myself if I'm asleep

Since the two players made their votes, I’ll end this day phase at 12 to keep my current schedule going.

@Laurentus, I edited your post.

@Sapphiron do you plan on leaving at the end of this phase?