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Werewolf XXII: Of Cores and Turrets
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  • "Some turrets carry cubes around. They have two heads, but only because more wouldn't fit."

    The "some turrets" thing is worrying me.

    Also, according to mythology, the most commonly cited number of heads for the Hydra is 9, not 2. I suppose that's where the "only because more wouldn't fit" thing comes in, though.

    My other worry is that we have someone masquerading as a Town power role, which also seems to be a sensible reading of this clue. If that were the case, though, it would have made more sense to refer to it as "faces" and not heads. Heads is oddly specific.

    Yeah, that's why the wording stuck with me a bit.  The type of person is normally called Two-faced, so the choice of saying two heads was an interesting one.

    This is possibly a long-shot, but if it's not referring to Hydra (not discounting it, but adding an alternative), perhaps two of the turret players have a linked power between them?  Is there such a role that exists that would be similar to that?

    Also, it has been brought to my attention that maybe I should have added a disclaimer. So here it is. Any similarities between flavour and players is pure coincidence and should be treated as such.

    Ruguo's statement seems to imply that I misinterpreted the clue and that the clue wasn't meant to point to Hydra at all. However, based on that I can only rely on him according to what other people say and that he was already suspicious to me, my vote still stands.
    The Franckenturret is the only turret I know of that has two heads. It also "carries" a cube. This may be what Pengu's clue was referring to.

    I don't know if it's purposeful or not, but Red Mones seems to have only increased in erratic behavior, and I don't know what that means...
    can you point to exactly what red's erratic behavior is? i haven't seen it as erratic today. plus, if hydra is scum that makes Red look great since people are trying to start a counterwagon.
    How do you know what the Frankenturret is, and what kinds of turrets exist?
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    gut, mostly. i believe barnes mentioned having not played for a while during d1? and it's like i can physically see the rust coming off as the game goes on.
    And didn't Pengu say his target was blocked? But Hapi said she blocked Pengu? Then how did Pengu get a hint???

    I feel these actions don't add up.


    if Pengu has a passive ability due to the gel effects, that would be immune to a role block.

    Hapi, is your role similar to pengu's? because if it's the same role, that would invalidate his clue.
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  • I don't know if it's purposeful or not, but Red Mones seems to have only increased in erratic behavior, and I don't know what that means...
    can you point to exactly what red's erratic behavior is? i haven't seen it as erratic today. plus, if hydra is scum that makes Red look great since people are trying to start a counterwagon.

    I guess that it's just my inexperience showing, I described him as erratic, but that probably wasn't the term I was looking for. I had seen him described as erratic before so I guess I jumped on that bandwagon. I personally don't like all the frequent short posts that he keeps sending. I feel like they're meant to say to us "look at me, I'm very townie" while in actuality he's trying to play us. I might be falling right into turret hands, but I have an innate distrust of him right now, and describing him as erratic was the easiest way to justify it at the time.

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    3 NEW POSTS FFS

    The above quote also put me on edge a little for some reason.
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  • I get off work and find a whole four extra pages to read. Sheesh...

    Thanks for the disclaimer, Ruguo. I'll Unvote for the time being while I figure something out.
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  • GIVE ME A CHANCE I'M WORKING ON IT BUT I HAVE TO STOP EVERYONE TIME ONE OF YOU GODDAMNS FOOLS MAKE ANOTHER POST aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh


    3 NEW POSTS FFS

    The above quote also put me on edge a little for some reason.
    You've never typed out a long post and go to post it only to have it tell you somebody's posted? Then go to post again, and it happens AGAIN? THEN DO IT A 3RD F****G TIME ONLY TO HAVE IT HAPPEN AGAIN?????????
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  • You've never typed out a long post and go to post it only to have it tell you somebody's posted? Then go to post again, and it happens AGAIN? THEN DO IT A 3RD F****G TIME ONLY TO HAVE IT HAPPEN AGAIN?????????

    Yeah I get it, it's frustrating, but can't you just scroll down and see the post as you're typing it up? I don't remember clearly right now, but I think I was able to do that at some point when I was writing a post. If you really need to you can also just open a new tab. I just don't think your problem warrants the level of frustration you're showing. You could also just copy-paste if you're losing progress you made.
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  • Something about his D1 goofs came across as very townie. I'd have to go reread. But this is just insane.

    Unvote: Hydra

    I'm very tempted to vote for Hapi, but will remove my vote from Hydra in the meantime so people can't hammer.

    @Hapi, what in the hell is going on?

    And to @Vroendal, i don't have a meta for Hapi. This is the first time I've played with her. She seemed very townie early on, but I don't know what's going on anymore.

    Umm what's going on is, before this whole group chat thing started I saw Pengu mention here that he couldn't do his jailor ability because of target block. I stated that's my role privately to the chat because

    A. I thought not being able to share what happened in the chat meant it wouldn't leak outside the chat

    B. I was confirming Pengus claim and verifying that I blocked him.

    As stated in group I do not understand how my block works EXCEPT that it is a blue gel effect.

    It is written as you jump in front of your target blocking them. I assumed its ToS escort. Could it mean something else maybe?

    Why'd I block Pengu? I had two reads on how my ability might work.
    1. I block the actions of my target. Blocking Pengus actions seemed like it could be a smart play since many seasoned players were at least mildly sus he might be a turret jailor

    2. It might block anyone from approaching Pengu like a BG in ToS.

    I figured Pengu would see a bit of action based on previous day claims. I figured he was a high value target for wolves if he wasn't one.

    In not understanding my roles exact nature I hedged my bets by targeting someone that either action might hold beneficial.

    And didn't Pengu say his target was blocked? But Hapi said she blocked Pengu? Then how did Pengu get a hint???

    I feel these actions don't add up.
    Here's my discussion with Hapi: (@Ruguo, you said no screenshots, do exact quotes "count"?)

    Hapi said "I blocked Pengu. I'm town, but I like adding chaos and confusion" (not exact)

    I responded:

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    Why would you block Pengu? That seems like a weird move. Also, he said his target was blocked, not that he was. I feel like he would've told us if he was, unless Ruguo didn't tell him as his target being blocked takes precedence but idk. You're blocking him shouldn't affect him being from being attacked or defended either, so it's weird you bring that up.

    She responded: (not exact)

    "I'm not sure how my block works. It's a blue gel effect. I blocked him because of his suspicious claims. I assumed it works like ToS Escort.

    I dropped it after that.

    Really kind of perturbed that any of this was shared. But I digress its my fault for misunderstanding how things worked.

    "Some turrets carry cubes around. They have two heads, but only because more wouldn't fit."

    The "some turrets" thing is worrying me.

    Also, according to mythology, the most commonly cited number of heads for the Hydra is 9, not 2. I suppose that's where the "only because more wouldn't fit" thing comes in, though.

    My other worry is that we have someone masquerading as a Town power role, which also seems to be a sensible reading of this clue. If that were the case, though, it would have made more sense to refer to it as "faces" and not heads. Heads is oddly specific.

    Yeah, that's why the wording stuck with me a bit.  The type of person is normally called Two-faced, so the choice of saying two heads was an interesting one.

    This is possibly a long-shot, but if it's not referring to Hydra (not discounting it, but adding an alternative), perhaps two of the turret players have a linked power between them?  Is there such a role that exists that would be similar to that?

    Also, it has been brought to my attention that maybe I should have added a disclaimer. So here it is. Any similarities between flavour and players is pure coincidence and should be treated as such.

    Ruguo's statement seems to imply that I misinterpreted the clue and that the clue wasn't meant to point to Hydra at all. However, based on that I can only rely on him according to what other people say and that he was already suspicious to me, my vote still stands.
    The Franckenturret is the only turret I know of that has two heads. It also "carries" a cube. This may be what Pengu's clue was referring to.

    I don't know if it's purposeful or not, but Red Mones seems to have only increased in erratic behavior, and I don't know what that means...
    can you point to exactly what red's erratic behavior is? i haven't seen it as erratic today. plus, if hydra is scum that makes Red look great since people are trying to start a counterwagon.
    How do you know what the Frankenturret is, and what kinds of turrets exist?
    The power of psychic telepathy google search. What makes Barnes core aligned to you guys btw?
    gut, mostly. i believe barnes mentioned having not played for a while during d1? and it's like i can physically see the rust coming off as the game goes on.
    And didn't Pengu say his target was blocked? But Hapi said she blocked Pengu? Then how did Pengu get a hint???

    I feel these actions don't add up.


    if Pengu has a passive ability due to the gel effects, that would be immune to a role block.

    Hapi, is your role similar to pengu's? because if it's the same role, that would invalidate his clue.

    I don't think so? Again I really don't understand it other than that its a blue gel effect.

    And if you remember I needed to clarify how that worked yesterday too.

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  • I don't see how my actions are sus. I also don't see why my actions being discussed were necessary in a discussion about if Hydra was being sus.

    The hint Ruguo sent however makes me a little weary here as such I'll Unvote for now.
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  • Any similarities between flavour and players is pure coincidence and should be treated as such.
    this says flavor though. the clue is probably not flavor. the flavor text is during the day/night scenes. if the clue has nothing to do with the players then what is it alluding to and how could it possibly help?
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  • Any similarities between flavour and players is pure coincidence and should be treated as such.
    this says flavor though. the clue is probably not flavor. the flavor text is during the day/night scenes. if the clue has nothing to do with the players then what is it alluding to and how could it possibly help?
    How it is not flavour? I would think any game moderated clue would be counted as flavour, the Frankenturret would certainly be counted as flavour. I don't think anyone is sure about the true answer. I just want to hedge the benefits of having a suspicious player up so we can get more information.
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  • Yeah, even I said that it should be taken with a grain of salt in the chat since it's incredibly ambiguous.  It could refer to linked-power roles meaning that two turrets have a link with their powers since a Frankenturret isn't two headed...it's literally two sentry bots built together on a cube.

    It could also mean that one of the turrets has two lives.

    The Hydra bit just seemed more plausible because of the "because more wouldn't fit" bit, but that could just be added flavor.

    That being said, I'm willing to unvote for now because the wagon seems too eager to build too quickly to early.  I wanted to sleep on it before doing so, and yeah...I'm still iffy about it.
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  • Any similarities between flavour and players is pure coincidence and should be treated as such.
    this says flavor though. the clue is probably not flavor. the flavor text is during the day/night scenes. if the clue has nothing to do with the players then what is it alluding to and how could it possibly help?
    How it is not flavour? I would think any game moderated clue would be counted as flavour, the Frankenturret would certainly be counted as flavour. I don't think anyone is sure about the true answer. I just want to hedge the benefits of having a suspicious player up so we can get more information.

    how does that help us though? we already know the town team is cores and the non-town team is turrets. in what way does it benefit us to know that frankenturret is non town?

    Welp, that escalated quickly.  But since I already outted my role, I should just come out and clarify that no, I'm not a Scum Jailer.  One of my effects (the Blue Gel one) gives me clues about who a Turret may be during nights when it's activated, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be the Scum's favorite person.
    he specifically mentioned it will give him a clue on who a turret may be, emphasis on WHO. why would "who" mean a specific turret instead of a specific player? what kind of special ability/benefit is it if it's worthless?
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  • Looks like a lot happened while I was working on finishing a couple of my finals.  I am kind of curious to see what will happen with players on the hard light bridge.  Also I feel like we should nominate more players to go on to the bridge.

    If there is a chance for a negative effect then maybe we should send some inactive or other suspicious players to the bridge since only one can by lynched.  Also @Ruguo are players on the bridge immune to night actions from the different roles (like turret attacks or protection) or are they still subject to them.
    If players on the bridge are immune to night actions and unable to use their night actions on those of us not on the bridge, then perhaps we should send some of our confirmed town or likely town players onto the bridge?

    Also I feel like this would be a good post to bring up this post.
    I do actually know how to play werewolf, unfortunately I’m a townie aligned jester which leads me to be inclined to be more of a nonsensical joke than someone actually helpful, hence the puns.

    I really cannot for the life of me tell who is the turret scum whatever word you want to use this evening to describe the bad guys, but if it’s true the gel is on, that means I’m gonna bounce into somebody which will be very fun! (If it already happened then my bad, I really miss a lot because of work)
    I have never heard of a town aligned jester.  That sounds suspicious, especially if the jester role is anything like Town of Salem's role.  Also what is that about you bumping into other players during the blue gel effect Madeline?
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  • I have never heard of a town aligned jester.  That sounds suspicious, especially if the jester role is anything like Town of Salem's role.  Also what is that about you bumping into other players during the blue gel effect Madeline?
    As I don't know when she will return, I will paraphrase, not quote, what she said in the group for the last effect. (She posted after the effect had been reset, not realizing that the main thread was open again.)

    She said, "last night I bumped into Weissreich, this means you know I can't be a turret."

    I don't think that anyone would be able to come up with that unique of a role without actually being that role, but that's just my opinion. I'm town reading her right now.
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  • That would be correct! Jeebus 54 pages now 😭

    I also never heard of a town aligned jester until this game so your guess is as good as mine as to where to came from.

    I did in fact bump into Weiss and due to an effect was unable to respond to that other person suspicious of me.
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  • I have never heard of a town aligned jester.  That sounds suspicious, especially if the jester role is anything like Town of Salem's role.  Also what is that about you bumping into other players during the blue gel effect Madeline?
    As I don't know when she will return, I will paraphrase, not quote, what she said in the group for the last effect. (She posted after the effect had been reset, not realizing that the main thread was open again.)

    She said, "last night I bumped into Weissreich, this means you know I can't be a turret."

    I don't think that anyone would be able to come up with that unique of a role without actually being that role, but that's just my opinion. I'm town reading her right now.

    how does that mean she can't be a turret? i don't follow the logic.
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