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We should ignore Laurentus' night actions actually. He said they were effected by the blue gel right? The wording was backwards and villager was in red. Who is to say that the villager part itself wasn't effected as well and the result should have been "wolf"?

I know you'll argue against obviously, but the fact that you've been suspicious makes me think that is a possibility. You're not cleared by his results at all.

That's fair, but my other point still stands.

Any english teacher would scream after reading that overview.

Slow down there, Doc. You said Weissreich may have voted for me to decrease the chances of me being lynched in the scenario we were both turrets. But that doesn't track with Weiss' actions today. He ignored a Hydra wagon to start one for me? When he was originally "trying to help me"? The first instance might make, sense, he took a risk, by allowing me to still possibly be lynched, but today's action os way too risky. And are we just gonna ignore Lau's night action?

(Because I've already observed the possibility that he went in to save you. Starting a wagon on you - especially one that doesn't pan out because there's 10 votes on another guy - is something very useful to have saved in his back pocket should you turn out to be scum (or for you, if he turns out to be scum).
'Bussing' fellow scum, in quotes to indicate that it's hardly being thrown under the bus when you're in no present danger of being lynched, is pretty textbook play.)

A very brief overview of our chat:

We discussed the hint a bit and said it could be Hydra but seemed too ambiguous to say. Almost everyone in the chat, including myself expressed suspicion on Doc actually (unrelated to the hint). Others seemed to think he's not playing to his town meta. I thought the whole act of his posting style could be a cover to make it look like he's scum hunting while actually not. Lau thought we were reading him wrong.

Excalibur suggested us all voting for Doc to put pressure on him when we got back in thread. That was the main gist of our chat.




Also hold up. Few questions. Did Gerrick specifically refuse to push the button or he just didn't vote?


And didn't Pengu say his target was blocked? But Hapi said she blocked Pengu? Then how did Pengu get a hint???

I feel these actions don't add up.

Hmm, I'm not seeing anything conclusive about the actions that took place in Hydra and Mones' PMs, then.

@Hydra, what is your opinion on the Tau kill?

Also hold up. Few questions. Did Gerrick specifically refuse to push the button or he just didn't vote?

He said "I'm going to refrain from pressing the button because this current setup prevents the wolves from talking to each other in their private PM chain -- right, Ruguo?" Ruguo didn't answer.

I have my suspicions but I will vote Hydra, it's the most I have to go on and it will illuminate my own suspicions about Doc or confirm them.

And didn't Pengu say his target was blocked? But Hapi said she blocked Pengu? Then how did Pengu get a hint???

I feel these actions don't add up.

Here's my discussion with Hapi: (@Ruguo, you said no screenshots, do exact quotes "count"?)

Hapi said "I blocked Pengu. I'm town, but I like adding chaos and confusion" (not exact)

I responded:

Why would you block Pengu? That seems like a weird move. Also, he said his target was blocked, not that he was. I feel like he would've told us if he was, unless Ruguo didn't tell him as his target being blocked takes precedence but idk. You're blocking him shouldn't affect him being from being attacked or defended either, so it's weird you bring that up.

She responded: (not exact)

"I'm not sure how my block works. It's a blue gel effect. I blocked him because of his suspicious claims. I assumed it works like ToS Escort.

I dropped it after that.

Quote away. But keep it to mostly what you yourself said.

Hmm, not a fan of that actually. Being divided like that gave scum an easier chance of controlling discussion actually. It's better to have all town on the same page with info which only happens in thread with everyone to see it.


Also Hapi isn't looking great from that. Town shouldn't want to cause chaos and confusion. That's literally scum play.

I can't make sense of Hapi's actions. Sowing chaos and confusion is something only scum is supposed to do. But why admit it?

I can't make sense of Hapi's actions. Sowing chaos and confusion is something only scum is supposed to do. But why admit it?

Querulous: why trust that core designate HAPI is IFF: FRIEND instead of IFF: FOE? Has this unit missed something?

(Translation because it seems to irk people that I'm having fun doing a character: 'why are we taking Hapi's claim to be town at face value again'?)

I can't make sense of Hapi's actions. Sowing chaos and confusion is something only scum is supposed to do. But why admit it?

While I agree that it implicates Hapi, I think from what I've seen that her posts are consistent with her normal gameplay personality. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have a good read on her, but she did say at one point that if she were voted up she would tell us everything about her role and I've been town-reading her so far. This may not be the best decision, but I think we have more suspicious people we can go for right now. Thoughts?

Something about his D1 goofs came across as very townie. I'd have to go reread. But this is just insane.

Unvote: Hydra

I'm very tempted to vote for Hapi, but will remove my vote from Hydra in the meantime so people can't hammer.

@Hapi, what in the hell is going on?

And to @Vroendal, i don't have a meta for Hapi. This is the first time I've played with her. She seemed very townie early on, but I don't know what's going on anymore.

Hydra comes in and all he says is "It could mean other things", votes to push button. Lil G stated he barely had a defense. I states he barely had a defense, voted for him. Hydra says he doesn't know what the clue could mean, but we can work to figure it out.

There really wasn't much more that I could say. I admitted that the clue definitely pointed a huge finger toward my name and therefore me, but I knew it had to mean something else. However, my Portal knowledge is rusty and I had no concrete explanation for the cryptic message. Glad Ruguo cleared it up though.

Hmm, I'm not seeing anything conclusive about the actions that took place in Hydra and Mones' PMs, then.

@Hydra, what is your opinion on the Tau kill?

I mean, you're spot on. First people I'd turn to after a tau kill are you and Aragonn. However, I'm getting town reads from you but am unsure about Aragonn. Besides House Valeria, I'm more than confident that Gerrick, Pengu, Doc, and Crush have all seen and know how dangerous tau can be as town to the wolves and would put him on a target list if they were wolves. As stated in my previous post, my Pengu read is heavily dependent on your read (because of the outed roles), but for Gerrick and Crush I'm at a loss. Not sure about Doc's meta in this game either (although loving the in-character posts ).

I can't make sense of Hapi's actions. Sowing chaos and confusion is something only scum is supposed to do. But why admit it?

Querulous: why trust that core designate HAPI is IFF: FRIEND instead of IFF: FOE? Has this unit missed something?

(Translation because it seems to irk people that I'm having fun doing a character: 'why are we taking Hapi's claim to be town at face value again'?)

We shouldn't take Hapi's claim at face value. Their actions have been weird to say the least.