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Werewolf XXII: Of Cores and Turrets
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  • I can't really tell who I should vote for. well I guess to me anyway no one really strikes me as suspicious.
    I don't wanna use my no lynch thing so I'm just going to select a random number.

    I got a six so I guess I Vote: Red Mones just to keep the no lynch as an option.
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  • And I'm not sure about Red Mones' actions there. He changed his tune fairly quickly after Ex role claimed
    His role claim actually had no effect on my decision.

    and he jumped on that band wagon very quickly, but out of everyone on the wagon, he was the most experienced, and that is kinda a double-edged sword.
    Me? Experienced? :P

    He should not have been on that wagon, but 2. Removing his vote so quickly could either be that experience kicking back in again and letting his calmer head prevail.
    Yup, pretty much it. If you notice in the past my play style is mostly waiting until the end of phases and jumping on wagons against the popular choice. This happened last game with Aragonn but experience kicked in and I rescinded my vote. I flip flopped all over the place after that, which people inferred from that that 1 i was not a power role, 2 prob not a wolf because i was drawing too much attention and obviously wasnt following a pattern and im not nearly good enough to pull of that kind of deception. Both were correct i was just regular village. What happened this game was similar, ex pushed hard against aragonn for something dumb, but i realized he wouldnt know (i remembered mentioning aragonns play was normal but the exact time was hazy) so when they mentioned we’re ignoring order of events i read through the relevant parts and noticed the timeline exs initial push>my vote post mentioning aragonn is normal>hapi and ex’s back and forth so I realized he was right. Also things were getting a little OOC so i wanted it to calm down a little. ALSO ex is experienced so i don’t think they woyld call attention to themselves like that? But also they just might so wed assume they were ‘t scum but idk. I’ve probably made a ton of errors cuz im on mobile which freking sucks for these kind of posts also im tired and about to go to bed heh
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  • Also remember guys according to rule four you can simply nit vote so you guys trying to vote random to save your no lynch dont need to
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  • Also remember guys according to rule four you can simply nit vote so you guys trying to vote random to save your no lynch dont need to

    True, but  choosing to just not vote, especially in a game that requires a minimum of 2 posts per day to ensure that you're a part of it, is incredibly suspicious.  It'd be one thing if you accidentally missed a day, but when you're required to post to ensure activity, it just comes off as odd that you wouldn't vote just to avoid using your "No Lynch" vote.
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  • ALSO ex is experienced so i don’t think they woyld call attention to themselves like that?
    lmfao where's funnier and min, they're gonna laugh

    I'm not experienced tho, I started playing last year which is not much considering quite a few players I met have been playing for like six years or more under their belt

    and I'm a magnet of attention because I'm noisy and annoying and hyperactive and lack common sense, it's not really alignment related
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  • I may have misread that rule so I'm gonna go ahead and Unvote: Red mones and go back and reread the rules to make sure I didn't mess up reading anything else.
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  • Thirteen pages in two days, and the only rule from the OP I can actually recall off the top of my head is that we can share our roles openly. I just remembered someone else talking about avoiding a no lynch vote by voting themselves during the whole process of turning the thread into a novel, so I didn't want to meet the fate of losing my no lunch vote as well. I'll Unvote Marzipan.
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  • ALSO ex is experienced so i don’t think they woyld call attention to themselves like that?
    lmfao where's funnier and min, they're gonna laugh

    I'm not experienced tho, I started playing last year which is not much considering quite a few players I met have been playing for like six years or more under their belt

    and I'm a magnet of attention because I'm noisy and annoying and hyperactive and lack common sense, it's not really alignment related

    Lol this is true. But also selling himself a bit short. Ex has played quite a bit with us by now and is a good player despite being a bit erratic.


    @Laurentus (dunno if I just have to at and write a name to tag someone), funnier hasn't hit his town stride if he is town. So it's hard for me to say for sure. I know he's been really busy lately so not having his aggressiveness (if y'all thought Ex was aggressive you're gonna hate funnier, lol) makes it hard to read him. So he's null for now. But I don't really consider lynching funnier d1 like ever.


    Also no lynches d1 are a bad idea. No lynches are usually only useful near end of game if you want to narrow down the persons of interest, but can't afford to lynch a townie. I don't know how things are done here but d1 no lynch proposals are usually pretty bad. We need a lynch to analyze wagons. Otherwise scum will just kill someone at night and we'll be down one townie and in the same place d2 that we are now. So suggesting it makes me a little suspicious of Batma n. Though I'm not sure if he's a newer player or not.

    Also, typically not voting at all doesn't count for a no lynch. You usually specifically vote for a no lynch and it has to reach majority. So y'all don't have to random vote to no lynch.
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  • Also, typically not voting at all doesn't count for a no lynch. You usually specifically vote for a no lynch and it has to reach majority. So y'all don't have to random vote to no lynch.

    It's usually an alternative workaround for no no-lynch games, either voting yourself or everyone voting for a random person.  Personally, I like idea of a person being lynched each round, but considering how our attendance for games usually is here (30 being our highest, 20 being our normal high, and sometimes getting as low as 12-13), it's not always ideal to have a no no-lynch game since it'll end the game really quick.

    If our games were normally this big though, I'd probably be gunning for an always-lynch game more, since I personally don't enjoy the idea of "quiet" rounds as a host.
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  • Also remember guys according to rule four you can simply nit vote so you guys trying to vote random to save your no lynch dont need to

    True, but  choosing to just not vote, especially in a game that requires a minimum of 2 posts per day to ensure that you're a part of it, is incredibly suspicious.  It'd be one thing if you accidentally missed a day, but when you're required to post to ensure activity, it just comes off as odd that you wouldn't vote just to avoid using your "No Lynch" vote.
    When the inactivity rule is by posts and not votes, a vote is not necessarily necessary. Here we're used to votes being required, so this concept might seem weird, but I remember being surprised by seeing very active posters not vote in the Mafia Championships game that Laurentus was in and it not being questioned. (This does not mean that no lynches happen of course, most people vote, and maybe this sort of game style might require that most people still vote and, of course, be reasonably active.)

    To me the random vote seems weird in an active game that doesn't require you to vote. But smarter / more experienced people than me should probably chime in on this.
    Also, typically not voting at all doesn't count for a no lynch. You usually specifically vote for a no lynch and it has to reach majority. So y'all don't have to random vote to no lynch.
    The fact that No Lynch, abstention, and random vote are being framed this way, I think, might just be because they were framed that way in this game's rules (and also because vote requirements are historically common in Wintreath Werewolf), so people are looking at them as alternatives to one another.

    I'm not experienced tho, I started playing last year which is not much considering quite a few players I met have been playing for like six years or more under their belt
    Compared to the rest of us that's probably far more experience. Like, I've been around for several years in Wintreath but we're not a Mafia-specific forum so the rate at which games are run, as well as the level of play in said games, might be far less, I think.
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  • Huh, I didn't realize that we didn't necessarily have to vote to not be lynched.  In that case I will Remove my vote for Mathyland.  I have also gotten brave enough to push the button.
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  • I fundamentally detest the idea of not voting D1, so I'm kinda torn between voting for the following three people: Hydra, Gerrick and Sapphiron. All three generally have very lurky playstyles, and I know from experience how deadly they can be when just left to lurk as they are. That said, Sapphiron has had more of a presence, and yet, has not contributed much. This makes me wonder whether they're trying to lay low.

    I will therefore go ahead and vote: Sapphiron.

    I will also vote: Push the button and let RNGesus do whatever He does.
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  • Oh my! Lau, I am not sure what you were expecting me to contribute on the first day phase. There's little information in the past 10 pages beyond arguments surrounding personalities. And I am not going to meta-game, especially not at this point, since I have not played Werewolf for a while now and not completely familiar (if at all) with every participant's play style. Everyone is just taking a shot in the dark, voting and unvoting, and I am certainly not going to jump ExLight's wagon for his antagonistic play style. Then again, you probably voted for me so that I will talk more, and if so you did achieve that. :o In fact, I have more trust in a Lau that would lynch me on D1 than a Lau that blindly trusts me, which usually turns out to be Wolf rather than Seer so.

    Anyway, let's get the button pressed guys :D
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  • By the way Ruguo, when will inactive players be replaced? At the end of D1, N1 or D2?
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  • Lol, your trust in me is oddly suspicious.
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