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Werewolf XXII: Of Cores and Turrets
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  • Finally caught up to the end. After going inactive to avoid throwing more fuel on the flame, I'm all caught up again. I never did peg Ex as scum, but I didn't appreciate the backlash I took from trying to help clarify things either. I do disavow the votes cast against him and hope that we can find a much better target.

    Yeah, I think the piling on Ex is a bit unnecessary.  He may be coming off as a bit aggressive, but we also have to remember that other communities (especially MU) play the game a bit differently than we do, and it's normally played a bit more aggressively and seriously.    It's just a play style we're not particularly used to here.

    And batma n is correct.  The Seer and Defender roles are the vanilla power roles that you'd expect...the former is the scanner and the other is the protector.  In this game the different effects will probably warp them a bit.
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  • I stand by my reasoning but I'm slowly changing my thoughts on Ex.

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  • Awe: the other Cores appear to have far more advanced Turing protocols than myself, with how convincingly they imitate human behavior.
    Concern: tensions have risen dramatically in the room.
    Concern: the Turrets among us must be riling up the other Cores.
    Indecisive: however, there is no way to know for certain.
    Observation: a shot in the metaphorical dark is certainly better odds (1/5) than the inevitable shot in the literal dark that will come when the day ends (0/24).
    Waxing loquacious: after all, as Cave Johnson once said, "Worst case scenario, you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face".

    Also, not lynching can give some info that could really help
    (Historically, every time we've done that, the scum have murdered someone completely unrelated to anyone who came up in the past day, meaning we have no new information and one more dead person.
    Consequently, no matter how nice it might look to nolynch and avoid a mislynch...all it does is kick the can down the road.)

    I'm going to change my vote to Doc since I don't want to use my no-lynch. I know his actions are usual for the course, but since everyone's been acting on par, there's not much to go off of besides being the first person I was suspicious of.
    (TIT FOR TAT CONTINUES THEN)
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  • Observation: a shot in the metaphorical dark is certainly better odds (1/5) than the inevitable shot in the literal dark that will come when the day ends (0/24).
    (I should amend this to reflect that there are an indeterminate number of doctor, or as Wintreath calls it, defender roles, in the game. There is always the X/30 chance that the defender(s) guess right and pick the 1 target getting shot. But it's not great odds.)
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  • I think the best play rn is to not vote unless something really suspicious comes up. We have a numbers advantage, and a mislynch on Exlight could be worst than a turret kill.
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  • I'm townreading Doc.

    He has a tendency to make much longer posts and publicly pick apart the makeup of the game as a Wolf, and that just has not happened yet.

    Everyone else I'm null reading, except for Funnier.

    Granted, he could be changing things up and adapting to a new community, and the fact that he's ill would also account for some of the change we're seeing, but Funnier tends to be much more analytical and loves to pick apart everything a person says and does, and so far, that hasn't happened yet. It's not enough to make me scum read, but it is enough to make me raise my eyebrows.

    @ExLight and @Minish, you know Funnier far better than me, so would you care to comment?
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  • Oh, right, forgot Hapi and Barnes. I'll go ahead and Town both of them, because Barnes' admission that he wanted to lynch Ex even though he believed his claim would be Wolf suicide, and Hapi's aggressive push there was way too hard for an inexperienced Wolf.

    And I'm not sure about Red Mones' actions there. He changed his tune fairly quickly after Ex role claimed, and he jumped on that band wagon very quickly, but out of everyone on the wagon, he was the most experienced, and that is kinda a double-edged sword. 1. He should not have been on that wagon, but 2. Removing his vote so quickly could either be that experience kicking back in again and letting his calmer head prevail, or 3. be an attempt to hop off a very bad wagon and avoid being implicated when Ex got lynched and flipped Town, thereby also proving Ex's claim, which does look a bit scummy.

    You're going to have explain that one to me, @Red Mones.
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  • Quick post before bed, Ex seems like probably town, typical, reactions are typical, Hapi is probably just town that's some very impressive analytical reactions to Ex if not, brave too. Minish is not insanely making me think town but I wont worry about it, Laur is actually being kind of weird, idk if its just the avatar but I get this "why yes young padawans, come listen to my words of wisdom" that kind of scare me into thinking he's trying to use his influence to have the new players sheep him unconditionally.

    Also for goodness sake, I dont know what roles the mafia have but blindly believing or disbelieving the first person who claims is just like

    I cant even remember what he claimed and I dont really care I remember it had a doctor in it, but anyway claiming day one is stupid. I'm going to give Silv the benefit of the doubt and say the mafia have believable fake claims or believable claims or something, but trying to deduce alignment from that is super lame (and it does NOT always work) Ex is a big dum idr why he even bothered oh wow a few votes on you geez guess better claim NO please keep in mind that Ex is certifiably insane and should be used as an example of what not to do only k thx

    Where was I so anyway believe his claim doubt his claim it doesnt matter unless he specifically claimed your exact role there is no reason to believe it isnt his actual role but of course if youre scum reading him it doesnt really matter though I'm not and would advise against it

    Again I dont remember where I was going with this I just saw a lot of nonsense and it irritated me also Barnes avatar is heckin Peabody and Sherman how cute is that

    Also I have work tomorrow night so I wont be able to make eod but I'll try to get some posts out in the morning
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  • This happens with every game where there are new people. Someone usually makes an oof, I correct it, and then people sheep.

    That said, I'm confused about your analysis here. I have not cast a vote yet, so there is literally no action for people to sheep on.

    Unless you're referring to getting people off the Ex wagon?
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  • Hi I don't really know what's going on but I took a page out of my chill and make jokes guide and here's what I know:

    Obviously we need to find the turrets and get rid of them! Anyone looking particularly shocking?

    is it just me or am I feeling a little bouncy? Perhaps someone may accidentally switch places? I don't know anymore, iykyk amiright?

    I picked a number between 1 and 30 and I got 14 so I vote: Wintermoot on the sheer conclusion of bad luck and maybe for the luls...

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  • This happens with every game where there are new people. Someone usually makes an oof, I correct it, and then people sheep.
    Yeah, I see this a lot when hosting too.  The new person does something different than the players usually do, they get corrected, and then that newness becomes a suspicious trait.  I've rarely seen new players to the game last very long because they get turned on super quick because of that newness.
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  • @ExLight and @Minish, you know Funnier far better than me, so would you care to comment?
    I always have a hard time reading funnier, but yea, I also feel that either he's lacking the motivation or he's kinda lurking around for some reason. Minish can read him a lot better than me though, so I trust her judgment better than my own.
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  • My I haven’t played werewolf on a forum in a long time. I’m not sure who to vote for.
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  • I had RNGsus pick a number 1 through 30 for me instead of picking the number myself. I got 28. Along with wanting to push the button, I'll Vote: Marzipan for no other reason than the computer told me to. I want to save my no lynch vote.
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