[11:22 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Which is from new Citizen
@Swordia! On getting people involved on the forums
[11:23 PM] Wintermoot 👑:
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=6242.0Question and suggestion ?!
Question and suggestion ?!
[11:23 PM] Wintermoot 👑: The next question comes from new member Swordia, who asked about making the forum more user friendly, especially for newbies, and also asks about integration (people who help newbies get involved in the region). In fairness, I think we’ve always done a poor job of integration...if you look at the most successful Wintreans, you find that a majority of them actually came to us from other regions...essentially they were trained by other regions and came to us later.
[11:23 PM] Wintermoot 👑: In terms of making the forum user-friendly, I think there’s two parts to that...first there’s the technical side of streamlining the forums and making them more modern. We’ve done this on the topic page a few months back, but it’s time-consuming and tedious work and I haven’t been able to expand further yet. The second part is the integration part, which...is kind of lacking right now. We have a Thane of Integration position, but it’s been vacant this term...hopefully we’ll get a good candidate for it in the upcoming elections that start Dec 1. It would be a great help to have someone dedicated to that, but considering it’s one of the more tedious jobs in the Cabinet, it’s hard to find someone that’s interested.
[11:23 PM] Gally, Super Good Lad & Sidekick: I'm actually quite the wizard in MS Paint if any random, inane and out-of-the-left-field parking lot style designs are needed
[11:23 PM] OliverCrowe: And I'm going to repeat what I told Swordia
[11:24 PM] OliverCrowe: If you have ideas on how we can be better with integration...please consider running for Integration Thane in elections.
[11:24 PM] OliverCrowe: We need someone with fresh ideas in a role that is currently vacant.
[11:24 PM] Gally, Super Good Lad & Sidekick: stands up and applauds himself again
[11:25 PM] Wintermoot 👑: We need someone who likes doing tedious work. :stuck_out_tongue:
[11:25 PM] Honorary Box: Perhaps I can put together some form of welcome activity, like a forums scavenger hunt, or maybe a mentor system.
[11:25 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: I would consider restarting the Mentorship program
[11:25 PM] OliverCrowe: That too.
[11:25 PM] OliverCrowe: But I think we took a bad hit when integration slowed until it fisseled completely.
[11:26 PM] OliverCrowe: Mentoring was a tremendous help for new members, and we need someone with the energy and attitude for that job.
[11:26 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Earlier enough I sent out a regional telegram that Marz was kind enough to write for us, just reminding people to endorse the delegate, become a Citizen, etc. That's...honestly more than we've done in awhile.
[11:26 PM] SWORDIA: Also , I think we need to have some sort of a technique to help newbies even if don't have a Thane of Integration like now
[11:27 PM] OliverCrowe: I think we are getting better, but we can still do a lot more to help ease members into the community
[11:27 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: Also, we need to consider the fact that our forum organization was largely set out about 5 years ago.
[11:27 PM] Wintermoot 👑: One idea I have is to craft a message to nations that leave the region, asking what led to them leaving
[11:27 PM] OliverCrowe: Well on that, we do have guides for starters
[11:27 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Agreed @Wintermoot 👑
[11:27 PM] OliverCrowe: But we just need more of a hands on approach since people dont like reading long winded guides.
[11:27 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: @Wintermoot 👑 I did that in the Warzones, it got low feedback, and when I did get feedback it wasn't the most helpful
[11:27 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Those guides really need to be reviewed for relevance...I have it on the list of Cabinet jobs seasonally though
[11:28 PM] OliverCrowe: I think rather than that, have a sort of quarterly questionaire...sort of like we're doing with meetings.
[11:28 PM] Wintermoot 👑: The way I see it, by the time they've joined the region, made an account, and applied for Citizenship they've invested a fair amount of time in Wintreath...why do some of them then leave?
[11:28 PM] OliverCrowe: Have someone in charge of seeing how members, especially newer members, are doing each quarter.
[11:28 PM] SWORDIA: If people don't want to run for a Thane of Integration ( or most of them ) then what can be done ?
[11:29 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Do they get a recruitment telegram from a region that sounds better? Do they find that something in the region doesn't live up to what we advertise?
[11:29 PM] OliverCrowe: Gauge what they like and dont, and learn and improv
[11:29 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: My mentorship idea I proposed a while back was basically we divide Mentors up into a list of topics, General, RP, Elections and Law, Gaming, ect. Each Mentor group would ideally have a sub-organizsation where Mentors would be ranked in accordance with ability and assigned to people as such. A General Mentor would be appointed to anyone who wants one, with more specific Mentors being appointed to someone on a case-by-case basis
[11:29 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: It does take a bit of work, however things would be subdivided for the Mentorship program
[11:29 PM] Wintermoot 👑: I don't know...we struggle to even find people to serve as ambassadors, and mentoring would involve much more work.
[11:30 PM] OliverCrowe: Agreed
[11:30 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: What does the recruitment letter say @Wintermoot 👑
[11:30 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: True, however we are more isolationist Wintermoot
[11:30 PM] OliverCrowe: I think that was part of the problem last time even...not enough volunteers.
[11:30 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: perhaps a local thing would work more? Also for non-General mentors they would be expected to be experts in one field.
[11:30 PM] Wintermoot 👑: It seems to me it'd have to be a place where newbies have access to a group of mentors, not just a one on one thing
[11:30 PM] SWORDIA: I will apply for ambassadorship when I meet the requirements
[11:31 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: I didn't want to be a Mentor because I didn't want to help people in general, however I would have loved to mentor people on our legal system, the Underhusen, and the like
[11:31 PM] OliverCrowe: I mean, should mentors have to be specialized in certain areas?
[11:31 PM] SWORDIA: But why people don't want to run for these positions ?
[11:31 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Maybe instead of mentors we need teachers
[11:31 PM] OliverCrowe: I always saw it as a buddy system, where the knowledge is general, but they're more about checking up and answering questions.
[11:31 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Maybe have it more like a school or an academy
[11:31 PM] OliverCrowe: Revival of the Academy?!
11:31 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: Didn't we try that?
[11:32 PM] OliverCrowe:
[11:32 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: I mean, I think a Mentor would work better because it's more of a one-one thing
[11:32 PM] Wintermoot 👑: That was a looser concept where people could teach anything...this would be a lot narrower
[11:32 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: It allows someone to ask and stuff in private
[11:32 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: (Also I read that as a loser concept at first XD)
[11:32 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Even when PB was running the mentor program, he wasn't sure that the mentors were actually reaching out
[11:32 PM] OliverCrowe: I like the idea of narrowing it, but I worry that the result of being the same.
[11:32 PM] OliverCrowe: And that's easy. We can make it as accountable as ambassadors.
[11:33 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: Have a review o rw/e given to everyone with a mentor,
[11:33 PM] OliverCrowe: Except they'd have to report in that they checked in with their mentee.
[11:34 PM] SWORDIA: But how can you encourage people to be mentors ?
[11:34 PM] OliverCrowe: But any mentor that fails their quarterly check would get a strike.
[11:34 PM] Wintermoot 👑: You know, maybe we just need someone to check on new citizens and be like 'hey, how're you doing?'
[11:35 PM] OliverCrowe: You mean like an Integration Thane? :p
[11:35 PM] SWORDIA: Lol
[11:35 PM] Wintermoot 👑: When Google managers were sent a simple checklist of things to do the night before a new hire started, employees became effective...integrated...25% faster
[11:36 PM] Wintermoot 👑: And it was simple stuff too like discuss the expectations of their role, and help your 'Noogler' set up a social network at work
[11:38 PM] SWORDIA: And maybe through that we can find out about the skills that these newbies have and guide them to the best place if they want to be part of the government .
[11:38 PM] Wintermoot 👑: My point is, it may be that all that's really needed is a bit of a nudge
[11:38 PM] OliverCrowe: Makes sense
[11:38 PM] Wintermoot 👑: In addition to the guides and all that
[11:38 PM] OliverCrowe: I think it's something we just have to play around with and figure out.
[11:39 PM] Wintermoot 👑: I think that's definitely something we should get together for the next Integration Thane...if there is one...
[11:39 PM] OliverCrowe: But in the meantime, like I said...anyone with ideas please dont hesitate to throw them out there, and please jump into Thane Elections if you think you have some ideas for Integration.
[11:39 PM] OliverCrowe: We can always use a fresh perspective to the role
[11:40 PM] Wintermoot 👑: It looks like we're pretty much decided on having a mentor program
[11:40 PM] Wintermoot 👑: So I'll make an action point to have some of these things ready by Dec 7th when hopefully we'll have an Integration thane
[11:41 PM] OliverCrowe: Yikes, elections arent until then?
[11:41 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Elections start on the 1st, they end on the 7th
[11:41 PM] OliverCrowe: Ah
[11:41 PM] OliverCrowe: And then the ones after that are in March, right?
[11:42 PM] Wintermoot 👑: The next thane elections after that, yes. The next UH election would be in February
[11:42 PM] OliverCrowe: Duly noted. I might have to reconsider running in the next elections then.
[11:42 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Thane elections are every three months, UH elections are every two months
[11:43 PM] SWORDIA: Looking forward
[11:43 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Can I run for office:astonished:
[11:43 PM] OliverCrowe: If you feel like you want to, then I encourage it.
[11:43 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Yes, you can. :stuck_out_tongue:
[11:43 PM] OliverCrowe: We can always use more people running in either elections.
[11:45 PM] Wintermoot 👑: I may bring up this topic in Cabinet between now and then to iron out the details
[11:45 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: What's a thane
[11:45 PM] Wintermoot 👑: But does that answer your question
@Swordia?
[11:45 PM] Wintermoot 👑: A Vice-Minister or Deputy Minister
[11:45 PM] OliverCrowe: ^
[11:45 PM] SWORDIA: Yes indeed , thank you .
[11:45 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: What do they do
[11:46 PM] OliverCrowe: You still technically run your area, but you report to the Jarl in charge as well.
[11:46 PM] Wintermoot 👑: They have a specific portfolio and work under a Jarl to work within it
[11:46 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Jarl?
[11:46 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: Minister
[11:46 PM] OliverCrowe: Ie thane of Werewolf runs the Werewolf area...but you still consult with Ruguo
[11:46 PM] OliverCrowe: Since he runs Culture.
[11:46 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Monarch > Jarls > Thanes
[11:46 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Ah
[11:47 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: (FA is a bit unique :stuck_out_tongue: where it is largely Monarch > Jarl > Thanes > Secretaries (if there are any))
[11:47 PM] OliverCrowe: Basically think a department manager at Walmart.
[11:47 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Monarch>cutie pie>jarl>thane:innocent:
[11:47 PM] Wintermoot 👑: The current Jarls are Chanku (Foreign Affairs), Doc (Regional Affairs), and Rugio (Culture)
[11:47 PM] OliverCrowe: You run your department, but you still report to the Assistant Manager.
[11:47 PM] OliverCrowe: And they report to the Store Manager.
[11:47 PM] Wintermoot 👑: At various times we've had between 3 and 5 Jarls at any one time
[11:47 PM] Honorary Box: I am Rugio now.
[11:47 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Yikes...sorry v_v
[11:47 PM] OliverCrowe: Haha
[11:48 PM] Honorary Box: It's an easy keystroke to miss
[11:48 PM] OliverCrowe: I thought I made the typo, so I scrambled to find and correct it.
[11:48 PM] OliverCrowe: But I mean, I've been called Penhu before.
[11:48 PM] Wintermoot 👑: ;-;
[11:49 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: Alright huPen
[11:49 PM] OliverCrowe: Hahaha
[11:50 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Anyways, I think that's it for this meeting...we got 13 action items, in addition to the ones from last week, so we have our work cut out for us
[11:50 PM] OliverCrowe: How did you know my real name?
[11:50 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Maxwell
[11:50 PM] OliverCrowe: And yeah, it was an informative meeting
[11:50 PM] OliverCrowe: gasp you remembered!
[11:51 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: What's my name:thinking:
[11:51 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: Yes Pengu is Mr. Maxwell House
[11:51 PM] Chanku [She/Her/Hers]: :stuck_out_tongue:
[11:51 PM] OliverCrowe: Yeah, not even going to try to fuck that up since I'm terrible with new names.
[11:51 PM] OliverCrowe: I tend to remember faces much better.
[11:51 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: I'm ugly
[11:52 PM] OliverCrowe: Psh
[11:52 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: Anyway
[11:52 PM] SWORDIA: A photographic memory ?
[11:52 PM] OliverCrowe: Anyways, we should probably shift this elsewhere.
[11:52 PM] Grand Imperial Cutie Pie ™🤴: I do want to run for office
[11:52 PM] Honorary Box: Yeah. Much to do.
[11:52 PM] Wintermoot 👑: Does that mean you're good to the last drop? :stuck_out_tongue:
[11:52 PM] OliverCrowe: Hahaha
[11:52 PM] OliverCrowe: Who, me?
[11:52 PM] OliverCrowe: :p
[11:52 PM] Wintermoot 👑: But yeah, thanks to everyone who stopped by and definitely everyone who was here the full two hours...wow, lol
[11:53 PM] Wintermoot 👑: I will try to have the transcript and action items out tonight or tomorrow
[11:53 PM] Honorary Box: Man. Two hours this time
[11:53 PM] SWORDIA: Thank you all .
[11:53 PM] Honorary Box: We will break the record next week
[11:53 PM] Katie: I think this is a really good idea to have these
[11:53 PM] Honorary Box: And thank you for coming Swordia!
[11:54 PM] SWORDIA: NP at all . Glad that i was part of the meeting
[11:54 PM] OliverCrowe: Agreed, I think the weekly meetings are actually good, and even for integration purposes
[11:55 PM] Wintermoot 👑: I'm glad we're doing it too...it gives the Cabinet some guidance
[11:55 PM] Wintermoot 👑: And the ops team at times :stuck_out_tongue:
[11:56 PM] OliverCrowe: Haha
[11:56 PM] OliverCrowe: Helps keep us in line
[12:03 AM] Gally, Super Good Lad & Sidekick: stands and applauds and tries to hawk bootleg Girl Scout Cookies after the meeting
[12:04 AM] Gally, Super Good Lad & Sidekick: All outta Caramel Delights, sorry.[/quote]
