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The intent is that I have no real clue what I'm doing, to be honest. Joining this game may have been a mistake for me, as it's really difficult for me to follow what's going on in text form, form a coherent opinion, and write a post that explains my thoughts clearly. I'm not at all good at figuring out any sort of clues to what someone might be up to in text, and sometimes if I do I just discard them for no reason. Not good for a game that works completely via textual communication.

So I'll completely retract my vote, if not leave this game altogether at some point.

I'm finding it difficult to see a Wolfy motivation for ZM. This is clearly not self-preservation on his part, as it makes no difference whether he keeps his vote on David or switches it to me, as either way, he's still left with a 50/50 chance of dying.

I suppose the only vaguely Wolfy thing that could be there is that, in the event he doesn't die and he's a Wolf, he gets rid of a strong player?

This is a bit of wine, but that seems like a really insane risk to take, since after I flip and am revealed as Town (and a goddamned defender on top of that), he'd be toast.

So this suggests to me that he is Town. Might be worth a scan by the Seer at some point to confirm, but that's where I'm at for him.

That also plausibly means he truly does find me more suspicious than any other player. Interesting.

Also, ha! We're on page 6! Who wants to say my reaction testing isn't successful now, huh? HUH?!

Less than 3 hours remain. 
And I realize my post about the non-voting sounded a bit vague when I mentioned a consequence.

Basically what I mean is that it's your best interest to vote, since no lynch votes will not be counted in the total.  if nobody picks a person, someone will be chosen at random.  If there are votes but NO LYNCH is the majority, the person below that with the most votes will be booted.

So the more you toss away your votes, the more likely it is someone you don't want booted may end up being booted because of even a single vote.

I’ve been bogged down at work and unable to take the time to figure out how to play. I vote ZM


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Goddamn, this is a roller coaster of a game already. Can't tell if any of these new players are actually genuine townsfolk that don't know what they're doing or if they messed up and their experienced wolf companions are giving them tips to try to cover their mistakes. Will have to wait to see more.

Regardless, I'm gonna Vote: Hydra since he's of the silent wolf type and hasn't posted yet.

Well, let's gather our opinions. Another term I learned in that other game is vanity wagon.

In this case, our choices are pretty much David and ZM. I'm not convinced North would be on this David wagon if he saw that his life was no longer at risk, so @North, your thoughts?

For everyone else, is the best target we can come up with really ZM?

Less than 3 hours remain. 
And I realize my post about the non-voting sounded a bit vague when I mentioned a consequence.

Basically what I mean is that it's your best interest to vote, since no lynch votes will not be counted in the total.  if nobody picks a person, someone will be chosen at random.  If there are votes but NO LYNCH is the majority, the person below that with the most votes will be booted.

This seems like a very convoluted way of saying that no lynch votes aren't allowed and will be instead taken as non-votes, which are allowed.

I'm going to sleep now. Should I not wake up dead, I'll see you guys in the next day phase. To the other defender: do not defend me. I will defend myself in the night phase. Worry about yourself or choose a good who might also be attacked. I would appreciate your assistance in the next night phase, though.

... good *target* who might also be attacked.

(To noobs: if you're wondering why we don't edit, that's because doing so can make it seem like you've let something slip, and you tried to conver it up. So don't do it.)

Ok. I do not want to die and that seems to not be a likely hood anymore. David appears to be in the clear since he has one vote. ZM is on the chopping block with 2 votes. Laurentus has one, Gerrick has one, Hydra has one and I have one.

Laurentus is remarkably present but so far has not done anything terribly...wolfy. Well, besides the whole 'damn near killed me' bit. ZM strikes me more as a bumbling new fellow. I'm still very suspicious of Ruguo and Doc. Hydra does, in my experience, like to play the quiet game. Gerrick...well, he has done nothing to signify anything, really.

In the interest of giving ZM a chance to live and for a lack of anything better to do, I will change my vote to Hydra. May lady luck favour us.

Ok so I just realized that the round closes at 5pm PST and I get off work at 5pm PST so I won't have the time to comb through all of this before the round closes.

Based on a quick glance, though, and based off of North's vote count, I'm going to have to Vote: Send _zM to the stage out of self-preservation (assuming North's vote counts as he didn't bold his vote).

Also, in general, I'll try to be more active around Wintreath, especially as this game is kicking off.

Less than 3 hours remain. 
And I realize my post about the non-voting sounded a bit vague when I mentioned a consequence.

Basically what I mean is that it's your best interest to vote, since no lynch votes will not be counted in the total.  if nobody picks a person, someone will be chosen at random.  If there are votes but NO LYNCH is the majority, the person below that with the most votes will be booted.

This seems like a very convoluted way of saying that no lynch votes aren't allowed and will be instead taken as non-votes, which are allowed.

I mean, it is.  It's basically saying that you're allowed to not vote, and that choosing not to lynch is just going to be taken in the same way as choosing not to vote entirely.  But it's also saying that if you choose either option, then either way someone will still be booted each night.  It's just up to whether or not you want to make sure you get a say in potentially saving someone that you personally see as innocent (or condemning someone you see as guilty), or just leaving things in the hands of random selection or to your fellow contestants.

Less than 3 hours remain. 
And I realize my post about the non-voting sounded a bit vague when I mentioned a consequence.

Basically what I mean is that it's your best interest to vote, since no lynch votes will not be counted in the total.  if nobody picks a person, someone will be chosen at random.  If there are votes but NO LYNCH is the majority, the person below that with the most votes will be booted.

This seems like a very convoluted way of saying that no lynch votes aren't allowed and will be instead taken as non-votes, which are allowed.

I mean, it is.  It's basically saying that you're allowed to not vote, and that choosing not to lynch is just going to be taken in the same way as choosing not to vote entirely.  But it's also saying that if you choose either option, then either way someone will still be booted each night.  It's just up to whether or not you want to make sure you get a say in potentially saving someone that you personally see as innocent (or condemning someone you see as guilty), or just leaving things in the hands of random selection or to your fellow contestants.

Maybe just say that No Lynch votes don't exist in this game, if that's what you mean?

Saying anything more than that, I think, creates more confusion by implying that No Lynch votes do exist, which they do not.

(And I find it surprising that you've prepared for the incredibly unlikely possibility that literally nobody votes for anyone, but I suppose you can cover that edge case, even if doing so creates confusion about the rules.)

I also don't really see the logic behind there being "consequences" if you don't vote. If we're taking a page from Mafia Universe/Championships rules and playstyle here in allowing not voting, we can see that some people in Laurentus' game absolutely do seem to actively influence the game without voting at all; not voting doesn't necessarily mean that you don't have a say in the conversation.

Nigel: Hello and welcome back everyone! Our next contestant is...John Barrison (@_zM)!

The Audience cheers

Wernstrom: What will you be presenting for us today?

John I can eat an entire bar of dark chocolate in one sitting.

Helga: Pfft, big deal.  There's a kid who goes to my school who can eat a huge bag of chocolate in one sitting.  We even call the little psycho "Chocolate Boy."

The three judges hit their Xs before  _zM can even do his trick.

John Barrison aka _zM, a contestant was booted off the stage after failing to impress the judges with his talent.

Alright folks, it's time to cut to our first commercial break!  During this time, contestants are asked to prepare their tricks just in case they're called up to the stage.  Any Saboteurs and their leader are asked to keep their deeds to themselves, and are asked to let management know privately as a team before they attempt to sabotage anyone.

 Likewise, any scouts may also want to to privately get with management when they each decide to watch over a contestant.

It also goes without saying that The Magician can use this time to impress management privately by trying asking insight on one of the contestants.

If you're the Blunderer, please let management know if you ended up making a mess around the studio.  Just remember that you're only given 2 freebies.

Finally, any special scenario meant for the Magician and Leader of the Saboteurs will be sent out to both of them shortly.

Now please enjoy this commercial break!  We'll get back into another round of the show on Wednesday, June 19th at 5:45PM PST

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@Doc @Laurentus @North @Ruguo @_zM
@taulover @Gerrick @Pj123 @Hydra @A self deprecating Kane
@Gabrielle @Mathyland @davidd1979

Saboteurs: PM me with your choice of victim
Scouts: PM me with your protection choice
MAgician: PM me with your scan choice

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