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Werewolf XVII: Santa's Apprentice
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  • I think a case can conceivably be made that I would make a mistake like that on purpose just to fuck with everyone's heads, because that is legit something I would do were I a Wolf, and I'd have a good laugh about it too, but for now, I'm going to ask that people remember all the goddamned times that I've been a total idiot with my foot in my mouth and realise that this is totally within character for me.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
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  • By acknowledging that that's something you would do, I'm not sure if you're just further trying to fuck with everyone's heads or digging yourself a deeper hole alongside Doc. :P
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  • Could go either way at this point. I'll just note that I legit thought Almonaster might be a Wolf, so seeing him be revealed as the defender was shocking.

    Also, guys. We cannot make any more mistakes here. We need to lynch a Wolf this round.
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  • I changed my name back to hopefully avoid anymore confusion.
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  • You know, part of me wonders if both Doc and Lau are the wolves and all their bickering is just an act to lull us into a false sense of trust in them.

    Ah fuck it I'm voting Lynch Laurentus.
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  • Why am I the least trustworthy one? :P

    Also, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

    Also, use your head, man.
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    OH FUCK OFF NOW YOU TOO
    I should never have voted for you in the first round.

    You know, part of me wonders if both Doc and Lau are the wolves and all their bickering is just an act to lull us into a false sense of trust in them.
    Ah fuck it I'm voting Lynch Laurentus.
    I mean, on the one hand I feel you, on the other hand I'd like to think I haven't done all that much in the way of bickering.
    I still have no idea whether to interpret his Almonaster screwup from earlier as genuine or as a calculated 'aha see how I'm not a Jolli with this carefully feigned confusion' ploy.
    And out of 'I'd really like to not fuck this up and essentially hand it to the Jollis by lynching an innocent person', I'm going to hold off on joining you barring clearer evidence or a more pressing timetable.
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  • Please, God, if you're there, kill me, please, kill me now.
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  • Please, God, if you're there, kill me, please, kill me now.
    oh, well, since you asked, Vote: Laurentus

    TO BE CLEAR I AM JOKING
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  • Is no one in the least bit suspicious of Doc for voting for North? It was the strangest out of all the targets he listed, and to add onto it, he and North shared a PM in the previous Werewolf, so it would have been a prime time to get rid of someone who knew his play style well.

    Really, the fact that he's coming to my defense makes me more suspicious, not less, because he clearly stated he would vote for me were his neck not on the line in the last round, and he knows I would definitely play mind games like these, so his lack of commitment here is the most suspicious thing I've seen him do. Now would be the best time to get rid of me if I were the wolf, and he's not taking it.
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  • Weird formatting mistake, sorry guys.
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  • Yeah, Doc's chattiness yet lack of conviction on anything (except for the fact that he's not a werewolf) is what's making me suspicious of him. But Laurentus is usually aggressive regardless of whether or not he's a werewolf, so I find him also suspicious.

    But wait, why was Doc's vote for North suspicious?


    Since there's already a vote each for Doc and Laurentus, I'm going to put down a security vote (subject to change) in case I forget to vote again later and subsequently get an inactivity lynch:

    Vote: Syraj because the only posts he's made here were votes (one of which was the deciding vote to kill North, and his only reasoning was "the most evidence points to North") and yet he's made several posts around the forums, so he could be trying to hide under the radar.

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  • I found North to be least suspicious of the ones Doc considered voting for, because his activity has been on a steady decline for weeks, therefore making his absence not as strange as the others he was considering.
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  • Also, just to make sure I understand, you find what suspicious of me, my lack of aggression in this game or you just always find me suspicious?

    Because I've certainly been aggressive, so if it's the latter, I suppose I can't really avoid your suspicion, then.
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  • Is no one in the least bit suspicious of Doc for voting for North? It was the strangest out of all the targets he listed, and to add onto it, he and North shared a PM in the previous Werewolf, so it would have been a prime time to get rid of someone who knew his play style well.

    Really, the fact that he's coming to my defense makes me more suspicious, not less, because he clearly stated he would vote for me were his neck not on the line in the last round, and he knows I would definitely play mind games like these, so his lack of commitment here is the most suspicious thing I've seen him do. Now would be the best time to get rid of me if I were the wolf, and he's not taking it.

    Mostly I was just leaving you alone out of the possibility that you might just consider that I'm not a Jolli and maybe generate some useful insights for us in dealing with the 'if we make one wrong move, we lose' situation that we're in right now, but frankly the fact that you seem to once again be circling back around to 'Doc is a wolf!' is grounds for me to do exactly as you've said.
    If we hadn't lost two people in the last round, I would absolutely have leapt down your throat and pushed to lynch you first thing, because this obsession with the idea that I might be the wolf is frankly adulterating your ability to make any useful assessments. But we did lose two people the last round, and so right now we have exactly 1 remaining chance to make a mistake.

    Let's do the math, shall we?
    If we miss a Jolli this round, it will be (5):3, where the 5 will come from (4 Resistance, 1 Watcher, 1 Apprentice):Jolli. The best-case scenario for that is hitting the Apprentice, in which case it's 5:3, Resistance:Jolli, and we have one extra person and thus an extra chance if we fuck it up in the future.
    The worst-case is hitting the Watcher, where it's, essentially, 4:4, and if we don't hit a Jolli the next day we lose, even if we vote no lynch because one of us will be converted in the night and the Apprentice will switch sides.
    If we hit a Jolli this round, it will be (worst-case where we count the Apprentice as a Jolli), 5:3, where, again, we have basically 1 spare life, total.

    Considering our astonishing shitty odds if we cock it up tonight and kill a Resistance member, I want desperately to get it right, because, let's face it, if we fuck it up here, we lose.
    So you'll forgive me for not 'committing' to your death because I'd rather look like an idiot for changing my mind about you and winning, rather than getting you lynched out of spite so I can wind up losing, because that's the epitome of cut off your nose to spite your face.
    Frankly, the fact that you're so blase about your own death is only making me think you actually are a Jolli, since the only people who'd feel comfortable right now are the Jollis who are two steps from winning.

    Yeah, you know what, Vote: Laurentus.
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