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(PASSED 5-0-0) Procedural Rules Amendment XVI
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Aethelia
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    1. This bill shall be cited as the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen Amendment Act XVI.

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    2. Section 2(a) of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be amended to read:
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    (a) At the beginning of the term, the Speaker may choose to designate one Skrifa other than him/herself or the Speaker pro tempore as Secretary of the Underhusen.  The Secretary shall be responsible for posting newly introduced proposals to the Citizens' Platform and to notify Citizens of new proposals through various means of communication.

    3. Section 8(b) of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be amended to read:
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    (b) The nomination and/or voting period may be shortened at the discretion of the Monarch if the relevant Underhusen session is shortened.

    4. Section 14 of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be rendered null and void.

    5. Section 16 of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be added before section 16(a) and shall read:
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    16. The Speaker of the Underhusen, or Speaker Pro Tempore if he/she is in use, may deem members of the Underhusen "inactive" if they are not present for a prolonged period of time; this status may be ignored if supplanted by either the "inactive" member stating they are no longer inactive in the Underhusen or by majority vote of all current Skrifa. This status must be noted and maintained in a public listing in the Underhusen.

    6. Section 16(a) of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be amended to read:
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    (a) The "inactive" label may only be placed on a Skrifa that has not taken part in any discussion or vote in the Underhusen for the last 14 days (336 hours).

    7. Section 16(b) of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be amended to read:
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    (b) If the majority (equal to or more than 50%) of the Underhusen is deemed "inactive", then requirements on the speaker to not initiate motions may be waived for the interim. Namely, in Sections 3(b) and 3(c). Thus, the Speaker would be able to initiate motions to vote or table discussions.

    8. Section 16(c) of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be amended to read:
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    (c) If all Skrifa bar the Speaker, or Speaker Pro Tempore if he/she is in use, are deemed "inactive", then the term will be immediately suspended until either the Skrifa return, or the term ends. During this suspension, no proposals may be introduced, motioned on, or voted on in the Underhusen.

    9. Section 16(d) of the Procedural Rules of the Underhusen shall be rendered null and void.
    Skrifa may vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

    @Aethelia
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    (I tried to look at the Underhusen Archive, though it just shows me what a finished vote looks like, unsure what the topic title should look like before the vote is finished but otherwise this should be correct?)

    (Edit: There's probably not a real rule for it, but may be tradition for the Speaker to not vote first immediately, so I will vote later, I can't be online much lately but I won't forget this topic, I'll come back.)
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    Usually the vote topic is tagged (Vote) or (VOTE) or [VOTE] and vote counts are only added in when the act passes. There's no set rule on that, though.
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  • Ok, that was fast and non-controversial, taking the appropriate text I'm supposed to use from a vote from the previous Underhouse -


    The bill passes unanimously in the Underhusen, and now moves won't move to the Overhusen because it's a Procedural Rules Amendment and the Underhusen governs itself. I won't hand this bill over to Chairman Wuufu because that isn't necessary.

    Edit: Um, Aye. There, now I actually voted.
    Edit 2: Fixed.
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  • Ok, that was fast and non-controversial, taking the appropriate text I'm supposed to use from a vote from the previous Underhouse -


    The bill passes unanimously in the Underhusen, and now moves to the Overhusen. I hand this bill over to Chairman @Wuufu.

    Edit: Um, Aye. There, now I actually voted.
    The Procedural Rules are the Underhusen governing itself, and don't go to the Overhusen. This amendment has already passed, so you can enter it into the laws page now.
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  • That kinda makes sense now that you mention it, just didn't think about it as I guess I didn't look at any prior procedural rule amendments as examples to notice that not everything goes to the Overhusen...
    Will do that now.
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  • @Aethelia FYI you should probably also update the Laws page with this amendment.
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  • @Aethelia FYI you should probably also update the Laws page with this amendment.
    @Aethelia the procedural rules page wasn't modified? This came up in the Discord earlier today.

    Also I believe some discussion was made regarding a replacement for the removed section 14 (IIRC Pengu originally made this suggestion last term), to make it the duty of the Speaker (along with others, perhaps) to maintain the Laws (and votes) page.
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  • Sorry misunderstood again, I did add "Procedural Rules Amendment XVI" to the list earlier but mistakenly thought I was done after that.

    Doing that now too. I think maybe I didn't realize that that link was clickable and not just a header for a list, adding the amendment to the list was the first time I've seen that page before.

    Also will completely understand and won't be offended if the discussion of replacements goes in another direction here...
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  • Sorry misunderstood again, I did add "Procedural Rules Amendment XVI" to the list earlier but mistakenly thought I was done after that.

    Doing that now too. I think maybe I didn't realize that that link was clickable and not just a header for a list, adding the amendment to the list was the first time I've seen that page before.

    Also will completely understand and won't be offended if the discussion of replacements goes in another direction here...
    The updated version of the Procedural Rules still isn't showing up?...
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  • Apparently if you're trying to rush out of feeling bad and trying to get it done as soon as possible and hit the wrong submit button "Update Votes" because that's the one located the lowest vertically and looks like a submit button it really does only update votes even if no changes were made to votes.
    ...I think there should be one submit button that updates both.
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